r/UnderReportedNews • u/ExactlySorta • 23h ago

Video Stephen Miller announces the US has taken the action of formally recognizing left wing violence as a form of political terrorism, claiming liberalism "is a direct threat to our national security and the survival of our Republican form of government"

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u/jump-blues-5678 22h ago

They're terrified of the mid terms.

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u/HopefulBuyer9077 21h ago

With everything going on, this better be the highest voter turnout in US history.

I don’t know if there will ever be a more important time.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions 20h ago

IMO that was November 2024 and I was shocked more people didn't realize the stakes.

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u/Nacht-hexen 19h ago

Same. The apathy is terrifying

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u/Viracochina 17h ago

Many people need to personally impacted to wake up, unfortunately the state of the world.

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u/WeNotAmBeIs 17h ago

It's because Trump's first term was easier to ignore for apathetic citizens who don't watch the news. So, going into 2024 those same apathetic voters thought "Eh, his first term wasn't that bad, who cares?"

This term is impossible to ignore. My Mom was full MAGA since 2016 and she renounced Trump a few months ago. I don't see any way she votes for a Democrat, but she's going to stay home on election day because she thinks they're all the same.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions 17h ago

I barely talk to my parents any more, because of their boomer politics.

It would be nice if they'd wake up like your mom did.

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u/Fine-Thought-5447 17h ago edited 17h ago

Still not ‘waking up’ if she plans to not vote because she ‘thinks they’re all the same’

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u/Funnyguyinspace 20h ago

Honestly? its scary how many people are just burned out and whatever about politics right now. I know so many people just tuning out.

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u/weresubwoofer 20h ago

People don’t need to follow the 24-hour news cycle to know what’s going on.

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u/Clear_Broccoli3 20h ago

That's true, but also people are doom scrolling because that's basically the default way to engage with social media now. These apps are all made to keep you on them, to keep engaging, and the content that provokes fear or anger is way more effective at doing that than the content that promotes contentment.

As a result people are burned out. Engaging thoughtfully requires work, and most people don't realize they should be doing that until after they've burned out.

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u/Ok-Philosophy-856 20h ago

I’m mostly tuned out - for my own sanity - but definitely voting and voting Dem. I think many people are like me.

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u/dino_spored 18h ago

My household is the same. We avoid watching the news, it causes us too much anxiety over things we have no control over. We WILL be at the polls and voting Democrat, come hell or high water. We will be there!

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u/Robot_Dracula 20h ago

It bothers me how many people have absolutely no idea what’s going on because they never read the news at all and they think everything is fine

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u/Selgeron 20h ago

The most important election was 2016.

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u/Mr_Industrial 19h ago

The most important election is always the one coming up next.

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u/demoliahedd 20h ago

this may be a super down voted hot take but I kind of feel like if Hilary won it would have made the right way more radical and guaranteed a 2020-2028 trump presidency. Bernie, however...imagine how good things would be if we got Bernie in 2016

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u/steveatari 19h ago

It hurts me so deeply we didn't get Bernie. Could have been our best president ever. Literally. Sucks

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 20h ago

Every single election for the next 20 years will be a more important time. This bullshit isn't going anywhere. We need new leadership and we need to vote out every scumbag before they become engrained in the system. No more incumbents, make them earn your vote. We are pretty fucked already.

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u/eastern_canadient 20h ago

2024 seemed pretty fucking important from those of us who were watching from afar.

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u/WorkinName 20h ago

Get ready for 35-40% of the nation to sit this bitch out again.

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u/MorningMushroomcloud 20h ago

Talk to your neighbors. Make sure family members go vote...do your part as an American.

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u/pogulup 19h ago

I am expecting full election interference.

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u/MusclyArmPaperboy 20h ago

Mate, you guys have said that like the last four elections and you still get low turnout

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u/HopDropNRoll 19h ago

I thought that last time and here we are.

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u/mfGLOVE 19h ago

I don’t know if there will ever be a more important time.

The next time will be the next more important time. Just like the last two times.

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u/Expensive-Sundae-831 18h ago

Prepare to be sorely disappointed.

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u/black_pepper 17h ago

With everything going on, this better be the highest voter turnout in US history.

Well looking at the turnout for the primaries (at least where I am)....it won't be.

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u/HistoricalSea5600 20h ago

what did they expect? 2 years ago, the midterms were still going to happen two years later and they did everything they could to stick a finger to even their own supporters. cause and effect lol

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u/Vairman 19h ago

I work with people who still think "both sides are bad", which is true to some extent, but they take that to an extreme and say they're the same - which is not true. And these are not stupid, fairly educated people. They are willfully and knowingly ignorant because otherwise they have admit that they've been wrong all along. Everything is black/white with them, they live in a constant quantum state. No grays, no middle ground, either/or only. We're doomed.

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u/ScarInternational161 20h ago

Trump isn't doing anything but signing what they put in front of him and clapping his tiny fat fingers when his face is put on something.

Miller, Vought and Thiel are the ones doing EVERYTHING.

Trump couldn't spread soft butter on a piece of toast with his finger without someone talking him through how to do it.

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u/Madara1389 18h ago

Right, can we please stop giving the clown so much credit & pretending he's the mastermind pulling all the strings behind this shit. The other snakes he's surrounded himself with are the ones with their hand up his ass puppeting him around like the movie Dead Silence.

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u/No-Abalone-4784 18h ago

Yep. Project 2025. Steven Miller etc.

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u/coinneach_stiubhard 20h ago

The election won't address the actual problem. It will just determine the full transition to or delay in the transition to full fascism.

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u/weresubwoofer 20h ago

This election is our last best change to change anything. If we blow this one, it is game over. For democracy, for the environment, for working people.

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u/hotleadburner 20h ago

Your best chance to change anything is on the ground organizing outside the party structure. An elected official didn't make the labor movement, or the civil rights movement, or the anti-war movement. The movements forced the hands of the politicians. This election is just our best chance at slowing the degradation -- although some would argue that slowing the degradation, when done improperly, causes an accelerant backlash like we saw after Biden. If this election goes against Republicans, the Jeffries/Schumer/Pelosi/Biden style of Dem politics will need to be left behind or there will just be another Trump in 2-6 years.

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u/seriouslees 17h ago

The movements forced the hands of the politicians

The politicians of those eras weren't cult leaders who had a base that will still vote for them even if they murder a baby on live TV.

The days of forcing the hands of Republican politicians is long over.

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u/Quom 15h ago

Weird how Musk disappeared with his tail between his legs when people started burning down his buildings. Before anyone starts with the 'he got what he came for', remember that he entered The White House with Trump deferential to him and his son. He left with the minimum after being cut off like an infected limb. The left just believed the propaganda that it was caused by infighting/the right never liked him rather than them actually making a difference.

Same with ICE in Minnesota. It got someone murdered but the resistance was also all over international media (so presumably your own) showing that these things don't have 100% support (but people are just too embarrassed to admit to it) like right wing outlets say they do. Suddenly the talk went from a heroic moving in and rescuing people from hellscapes to needing to work with the community etc.

I don't know what they're putting in the water but it's like every piece of evidence showing that change can still be made through opposition (and doing anything) isn't seen.

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u/No-Abalone-4784 18h ago

Yes. Please. Everybody out there just do anything you can. We don't want to look back & regret this one.

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u/TD160 20h ago

This is the most realistic way to look at all this. Thanks to Merrick Garland, that transition was accelerated these last four years. My cynical self says the next four will seal it. I’ve no faith in the midterms and even less in ‘28. 🥺

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u/GrapefruitExpress208 20h ago

Defeatist attitude. Get out of here.

This mentality helps no one. It discourages enthusiasm and turnout.

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u/hw999 20h ago

Fascism always eats itself. Its too hungry like a cancer that destroys the host. It can last quite awhile and do alit of damage. Everyone of us has the duty to drag our feet, fight, and be as difficult as possible at every opportunity. Don't give the bastards an inch.

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u/PM_Me_Macaroni_plz 20h ago

I share the sentiment but have to hold out hope. Only spread positivity that there’s a chance, while holding the cynical thoughts inside. That cynicism just discourages others that are on the fence, when we need every voice we can muster as this really feels like our last chance

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u/deaddreamsneverdie 20h ago

Gotta love defeatism, super helpful from the sidelines as you sit on your ass.

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u/breadfiesta 16h ago

Agreed, it's exhausting reading these defeated armchair revolutionaries. If they can't be bothered to vote, then they're absolutely not bothering to fight the fight they claim is the only way.

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u/DeadlyYellow 20h ago

If they lose they'll just start arresting representatives now.

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u/dawn_thesis 20h ago

It's not just Trump. It's the entire party leadership.

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u/VoidOmatic 20h ago

The Islamic Republic Of Japan and the Trans Sisters are closing in!

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u/BeeefSupreeeme 19h ago

he knows if republicans lose the midterms his presidency is over.

A hell of a lot more than that is over.

The shitty thing is that enough liberal figures are wrapped up in the Epstein files as well that I seriously doubt it ever gets fully addressed or brought to justice.

The Panama Papers showed us how it's likely to go.

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u/GB10VE 19h ago

I think it is more the people who got trump elected are having the minions they placed take over. I doubt trump knows about any of the actual going ons of the gov, he's just grabbing info to send to his kids to make stock plays

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u/Perelin_Took 18h ago

They are going to rig the elections and then repress any protest as “far left terrorism”

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u/MrGattsby 18h ago

They won't. They voted for this shit show! Enjoy the handy work.

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u/Malthus777 22h ago

Didn’t the special election officials get fired so they are going to rig them anyway?

https://www.votebeat.org/national/2026/07/09/trump-fires-election-assistance-commission-members-hicks-hovland-mccormick/

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u/Neat_Egg_2474 20h ago

That’s why blue states need to hold their ground and not rely on Trumps government to help run elections.

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u/100292 9h ago

Blue states aren’t what we need to win. We need blue people in red states to vote, and their votes are going to “disappear”

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u/Blacksad9999 16h ago

They got rid of the EAC, which is an advisory board with 4 positions, 1 of which was already vacant.

The FEC is still intact.

Still, not great, as the EAC oversees voting machines, which means they'll likely try to use those to cheat. I'd hand count everything.

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u/TrueCapitalism 13h ago

We can and should hand count everything. Plenty of states already do so.

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u/Rattiepalooza 15h ago

Yup.

There are no more fair elections. It was all in Project 2025, and it's too late now. WE THE PEOPLE have to do something about it, because they've replaced everyone in power with people who will lick Trump's balls.

Get together locally and be ready to fight for your property, because the government IS coming, and the ones who think they're going to be spared AFTER being used by this administration, are going to help. It's literally in there, it calls MAGA idiots and says they're highly exploitable because of their lack of education and understanding. They also purposely used religion in order to rally an angry response to make these low IQ people go against their own fucking rights.

None of these people believe in freedom. They believe in privilege - and that privilege is only for white, wealthy MEN. They're going to take the right to vote away from women in 4 years. That is their timeline.

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u/Ryan_e3p 21h ago

Even if midterms were not a concern, they would be pushing this narrative and taking these actions. They've been stating their intentions quite clearly for years now. Shit, they published it in Project 2025. They flat out said that they want a second American Revolution, and in July '24, stated it will "only be bloodless if the left allows it to be".

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u/Lala5789880 22h ago

What makes you think they will honor midterms?

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u/4554013 22h ago

That's the tipping point. People still believe election will help or fix things. If we don't have free and fair elections in Nov, we either fight for our freedom or capitulate.

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u/Mekisteus 20h ago

And when that Mueller report finally comes out, everyone will have to face the fact that Trump is a criminal and his presidency will be over.

And now that Jan 6 happened, no one can deny how dangerous Trump is and MAGA is doomed.

And as soon as the Epstein files are released, or if Trump just refuses to release them, that's going to put an end to his presidency.

And if we win the midterms...

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u/BetterEveryLeapYear 19h ago

Don't forget that when Mahmoud Khalil was abducted by ICE on the Executive's order on the 8th of March 2025 against the direct order of the judiciary, and nobody - judiciary (including law enforcement), legislative, or as a final recourse, the people - nobody batted an eyelid.

That's the day USA ceased to be a nation governed by the rule of law and everything since then has just been the administration shoring up their grip on the levers of power.

They've been abducting American citizen children with cancer and sending them to actual concentration camps without legal recourse and shooting American citizens dead in the street for a year ffs. Nobody is going to do jack shit when the November elections are taken, get a grip people. Push already came to shove and the population as a whole utterly capitulated.

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u/MacRapalicious 18h ago

Surely he just can’t keep top secret documents in his bathroom? Oh what’s that? Immunity. Got it. Thanks

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u/LaLa1234imunoriginal 14h ago edited 12h ago

Yeah I was gonna say, this is what, the eighth "tipping point"? Direct action is a very important part of a functioning democracy and it's very clear not enough people in the US have interest in that.

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u/_CurseTheseMetalHnds 3h ago

It's like the 60th and people still think it matters

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u/Nintendo6ix4our 20h ago

You guys should read some history. Once fascists take over they stay there. The capitulation is already happening: masked assholes are driving around cities harassing people on the street and firing weapons with impunity. Political enemies are being bogged down in bogus prosecutions. Protestors were just sentenced to decades in prison. It's already happening and no one is batting an eye.

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u/MacRapalicious 22h ago

Spoiler. We go back to work and nothing happens

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u/GeoisGeo 22h ago

It will never be that easy, have some faith.

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u/RiotMedia 20h ago

lmao we had some faith 1.5 years ago. Since then, Americans have only had a walk, on a saturday, 3 times in 18 months. They will absolutely let themselves get trampled.

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u/Shark7996 18h ago

Since then, Americans have only had a walk, on a saturday, 3 times in 18 months.

Get some better sources. There are plenty of Americans working their asses off right now, especially at local and state levels. But I guess that doesn't count because it didn't wind up on your phone screen. Who do you think determines what the news you are reading says?

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u/RiotMedia 18h ago

Either Reddit is very good at hiding mass protests, either you're lying to yourself. If even 1% of the population was concerned, there'd be 3 million people in the streets. Are the protests in the room with us right now?

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u/Shark7996 18h ago

There's no satisfying you, is there? Protests are just a walk, but also the lack of them is proof of nothing being done? What action, exactly, are you looking for, so that we may satisfy your particular tastes, my liege?

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u/Dr_Fortnite 18h ago

because 4 years is the blink of an eye for our lives. Most people think if the current president sucks we are only 4 years away from a different hopefully better one so we just try to get by. If trump claims power people wont sit by with the threat that nothing will ever change

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u/MinimumAutomatic0302 21h ago

That's exactly what it would be, faith in miracles and some divine inevitable justice.

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u/unbuttered_toast3939 20h ago

hopes and prayers.

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u/Key-Demand-2569 17h ago

It won’t be “easy” for that pushback to happen until things are very hard.

Large masses of people don’t revolt until there’s widespread risk of starvation level issues or extreme widespread oppression that most people have personally witnessed.

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u/sayonaradespair 16h ago

Faith took a shit and died

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u/steveaustin1971 14h ago

It's already beyond the point of no return. Even if there is a semi valid election one side won't recognize it and now the GOP has a private army they can send into the streets to quell protest.

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u/Baddog789 21h ago

I think the USA is done. The regime has achieved control and the mid terms are just a non functioning distant dream.

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u/Tharwidu 20h ago

If they had achieved the control they wanted they wouldn't be as concerned about the midterms as they are or taken so off guard by the recent success of Democratic Socialists in local elections. If midterms were no longer relevant they wouldn't still be trying to disenfranchise the peoples votes. They're arrogant enough that we'd know when they've achieved their goals because they'd 100% gloat about it and act like they don't need to do anything further. Are they going to be the be all end all to fix the situation we're in? Fuck no. But they're still concerned for a reason.

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u/InappropriatePotato4 20h ago

They are pretending they’ve achieved this to deter us from voting. People who think all is already lost don’t always show up. Theyre literally trying to fake it until they make it.

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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 20h ago

Agreed. We are being actively, intentionally turned into Russia. Trump has received his instructions on how Putin did it....directly from Putin.

Oligarchs were forced to swear loyalty to Putin in exchange for the opportunity for Putin to make a ton of money off their business dealings. Trump has done so very publicly and all the tech and banking oligarchs were right there in the front row during Inauguration.

After that you need to beat the people into submission and ensure that uprisings aren't possible. Flock and Palantir (as well as Google, Meta, etc) have made that a reality. No uprising is possible in the US at this point without a MASSIVE organization which itself is easily tracked and subverted by those same tech companies.

We're cooked and it's why I'm willing to uproot and move to another country.

Most countries don't come out the other side of this sort of thing in a better state.

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u/Common-Raspberry-243 20h ago

Even if you really truly believe we are cooked, running away is a punk move and I don’t say that lightly especially if you are a person of color. If it was completely over and done with they wouldn’t bother with the charade… and yet they’re still going through the motions which tells you something. either way… I feel like we inherited this country… we sing about those who died and sacrificed but we think we should get all that America has to offer without having to defend it. I think we are entitled when so many other people have fought… even on America’s behalf when even less was at stake. Today’s field is online and organizing. This is our mess. Who is going to stay back and help clean it up?

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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 18h ago

Everyone gets to determine that for themselves. There were millions who fled German-occupied (or soon to be occupied) territory in the 1930s. Were they "punks" to you? Were those that were slaughtered better for it?

I don't owe my allegiance to this country. This country since its founding was based on slavery and the subjugation of others and then we decided to do some old fashioned genocide for over a hundred years of the native peoples. This country has been fighting against conservatives for centuries. What I've realized is that I don't fit in here. This isn't my country. It doesn't represent my ideals.

I'll stay here if I can out of convenience and friends/family. But if this turns into an all out civil war I'm getting on a plane with my family very quickly. I owe my family safety and a future FAR, FAR, FAR more than I owe this country another dead body for its endless statistics of violence.

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u/sandwichhaver 19h ago

yea you aren't voting yourself out of this my guys

hopefully a massive voter turnout against them will be proof enough of their cheating and provide the fuel

but they will cheat and they will "win" it's all about the response to that now

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u/entatlrg 20h ago

Agreed.

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u/Away-Regular1335 21h ago

Yep as long as the people have electricity and internet no uprisings will occur the populace are in their comfort zones.

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u/Goods4188 21h ago

Who is comfortable though? I’m fighting ever day. The bigger reason a revolt won’t actually happen is because they keep most of us JUST hanging on enough that we can’t afford to throw it all away for a week off to revolt lol.

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u/Away-Regular1335 21h ago

Yeah that too no safety nets make people afraid to lose what little they have.

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u/Marajak 20h ago

Just like Russia and heading for China. Keep the people poor hand to mouth so they stay afraid. This is their plan and it is working.
I think the USA is gone. Kills me to say it. But they control everything and the oligarchs are behind them and finance them as long as they keep all regulations off of them. The Republicans are easily bought. They are a bunch of whores. It is all about self, greed, and power.
We are now so corrupt with the illusion that all is for the betterment of the country.
All lies bullshit and gaslighting. To placate people. And it works. Russia and China have proved it.

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u/Selgeron 20h ago

We go back to work, and everything is slightly worse for everyone, and a lot worse for a small group of people. This keeps happening for decades, eventually we are russia where a small group of urbanites are kept vaguely happy, everyone else is fucked, the elite have robbed the entire country of every penny of wealth, and no one can criticize the government without falling out of a window.

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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 19h ago

This is the one that seems most realistic

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u/NoMuddyFeet 20h ago

I guess this is why Miller is setting the stage now to round up "left wing terrorists." After they ignore the will of the people during midterms, anyone who attempts to fight back will be given the ICE treatment.

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u/Rough_Bread8329 19h ago

This exact comment was posted copiously over the last 4 or 5 election cycles. You'll pardon me if I am skeptical of the American populace's willingness to even mildly inconvenience themselves to affect any real change.

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u/Nevermind04 20h ago

How many "tipping points" have been predicted so far? I think I lost count back in 2018.

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u/gehnrahl 17h ago

This is what i've been saying to friends and family.

If the midterms are ratfucked; cancelled, delayed, not certified then we as a country will either allow it or we won't. I'm not sure which way it'll go and the very fact I even have to entertain "will we even have a transition of power" means we've failed as a republic.

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u/Heavy_D_ 20h ago

"we either fight for our freedom or capitulate."

I wonder if this is what they are preparing for, and being able to jail any democratic leaders for asking the citizens to stand up for their rights if the midterms aren't honored.

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u/Pogledaj 20h ago

This is the setup,

Repubs will lose mid terms, they will claim a fix is in, protests will erupt, and this new thing by Miller is how they will squash protest.

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u/S_Belmont 13h ago

I'm predicting some will get active, but many people will say "It's just a midterm, I'm not fighting over some congressmen I never heard of."

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u/Stoeptegelt 7h ago

I don't mean this to be pedantic, but have your elections ever been fair? Isn't it the case that it's more difficult to vote for certain minorities, and certain social classes? I'm from the Netherlands and while we definitely have our problems, getting to vote is easy no matter who you are or where you live.

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u/SparksAndSpyro 21h ago

I will not fight. After watching the sheer stupidity of my fellow Americans in the 2024 election, on both sides mind you (yes you, leftist bozos who spent the entire cycle shitting on Dems while ignoring Trump), I have concluded that this country is not worth risking life and limb for. A lot of yall really just don’t deserve the freedoms you have.

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u/RedTyro 20h ago

No, it's not. There is no tipping point, as evidenced by the million and one that have already passed by while people did not fight for their freedom.

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u/nillaf4ce 21h ago

No one is going to do anything lmao

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u/xavariel 21h ago

They wont. Dems will sweep, because they wont be able to stop the voting process.

But Trump will announce the election is void and null because of FrAUd and everything is RigGEd.

January will be wild and probably violent. Moreso on the Rights side, as per usual.

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u/Dammy-J 20h ago

This entire speech is hinting at using law enforcement as a tool to hinder democrats voting.

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u/Kazooguru 18h ago

And this is a prelude to Trump’s speech tonight. This administration is baiting Americans to react with large scale protests. Trump will then use this as a way to cancel the elections until “order is restored”

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u/antiphonic 19h ago

yeah, this whole term has been an effort to build himself a private army thats loyal to him specifically.

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u/xavariel 16h ago

'Tis why he pardoned the J6ers. Army of pedos. It's just so fucked up

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u/GB10VE 19h ago

ICE at the polls

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u/mark_able_jones_ 17h ago

Watch Trump declare DSA a terrorist org. Establishment Dems would cheer, too dumb to understand they’re next.

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u/xavariel 20h ago

And people voting that way (us) need to start arming ourselves. Doesn't have to be via guns, but something. This wont end peacefully. But it doesn't have to be ultra violent either.

And if enough people go out and vote, like the 80% of total population in Hungary did, they have no choice.

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u/snakerjake 19h ago

it is illegal for them to do that, you call and report the federal agents to the local police as men with guns threatening people at the polling place

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u/Mindless-Bite-3539 19h ago

I’m sure the local police will do everything in their power to hinder federal actions /s

Ain’t a single cop gonna help ya, and most of the local ones will be gleefully looking for ways to participate in this. We are beyond the point of no return, everyone is just waiting for the nasty shit to kick off.

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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 20h ago

Everyone needs to vote no matter what. No matter what bomb threats they say, no matter how many ICE agents they push to shut down polling stations, etc.

However... they're not going to simply let themselves be democratically voted out. You realize that right? We're all going to have to make some very tough decisions collectively between November and January.

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u/early_birdy 14h ago

Didn't Trump allot the biggest budget ever to Ice? More than the official army itself? Like he's built his own personal army just for such an occasion.

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u/RagahRagah 22h ago

People need to get real. Very close to 0% chance we get the outcome so many people are convincing themsleves we are gonna get.

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u/Option94 22h ago

You're getting down voted but the reason Trump won't give up on 2020 is he know they cheated but not enough to beat the excessive mail in ballots caused by COVID. He practically admitted that Elon was able to do it. They're just gonna keep rigging them.

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u/RagahRagah 22h ago

People downvoting me are fucking delusional.

Trump nearly succeeded in overthrowing our government in 2020 and faced 0 consequences. Back then there were still a lot of people with him that respected democracy and law.

Now he has nothing but psychos and loyalists at his side, a fucking army of mentally disturbed and/or violent untrained thugs with guns who are killing innocent people in the streets (also no consequences there) and has done endless illegal things that have also seen him face 0 consequences.

Then there's Project 2025.

He has done everything and gotten away with all of it. They didn't come this far to just let things happen fairly and hand over the keys. They are relentless and have gotten everything they have wanted. What in the hell has people so convinced we can just vote our way out of this? Please do vote, but be prepared for the reality of the sitauation to hit afterwards.

There is no logical thought process that tells a person who truly understands the gravity of what this regime has done that we are just gonna go vote and this regime is just going to allow the house and sentate to flip. It's not going to happen. People need to stop deluding themselves and be prepared for horrors this November.

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u/Fit-Nectarine5047 21h ago

You are correct 1000% and I’m still not sure how people don’t recognize this. Maybe it’s too upsetting idk.

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u/Expert-Mental25 20h ago

So what's the answer guys? Why are you leaving that part out? Are you afraid of how cowardly it makes one sound to explicitly say they've lost already and will only submit? Is that the option? Submit? Cuz I'll just go grab a rope right now if that's our future. I'd much rather grab something else, be joined by like minded people, and do something even if death and failure is assured. Cuz if it is, why would I not try and take at least one out with me instead of just grabbing that rope? The end is my death regardless right?

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u/birbtown 20h ago

Exactly. History has shown that we’ve had to fight for every right we have. It’s privileged and cowardly to just throw your hands up and become nihilistic, instead of letting it build a fire within you to fight even harder.

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u/Fit-Nectarine5047 17h ago

Nobody’s saying not to fight or to just roll over die, they originally just said that these elections aren’t going to mean anything because they’re rigged.
And to be realistic about what that implies the populace will need to do

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u/RagahRagah 20h ago

I didn't say I had the answer. I simply stated the reality of what we are facing. Refusal to accept reality means you'll always be unprepared.

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u/Expert-Mental25 20h ago edited 14h ago

It's admittedly hard to tell sometimes online.

Idk if I'm talking to people who are just nihilistic or who think violent revolt is necessary. I believe the latter, but I don't believe it can be done half-assed or too early. Not early in the sense of when the enemies of the people have been meeting their goals, but early in the sense of the state of organization and readiness.

I also believe electoralism can still be useful. No, not to save us. But actually to radicalize more even further. If we "know" the outcome why would we not try to utilize that outcome to our favor? If we just sneer at the electoralism, then when the outcome that we predict (and may have even helped by checking out) happens, people will either hate us cuz they'll blame us, or they'll be checked out further.

If we bust ass in electoralism (ACTIVELY RADICALIZING THOSE AROUND US AND SPREADING CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS ALONG THE WAY), and then the outcome we predicted does actually come true, well now those people don't hate us cuz we were busting ass along side them. And they may even be easier for those of us with clarity to further pull into more radical positions.

Edit: To whoever replied saying not to "organize this online" and asking if I'm a fed, am I making any explicit/detailed comments or plans here online? No. No, I am not.

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u/weresubwoofer 20h ago

If we collectively can’t get it together to vote, then we definitely can’t get it together to revolt. Let’s just get it together to vote.

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u/TinyCarrotHats 20h ago

Man, I'm trans and I still have friends who, when told the latest anti-trans laws that passed, respond with a genuine gasp and "that's got to be illegal. That's illegal! It'll get challenged in court."

You know and I know that it doesn't matter if it's illegal, it doesn't matter if it's unconstitutional, and it probably will get challenged in court and they'll find some way to say it's all totally reasonable. But the rest of the country has their heads in the sand and I guarantee you it'll take them personally getting targeted or seriously harmed in some way to get them to realize how bad it is.

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u/Expert-Mental25 20h ago

The point is that it's easier to convince normies. If there's so little turnout that they can just spin any story, they will make many check out due to ambiguity or they'll take the wrong conclusions.

But if turnout is so obvious and so unquestionable, and it's clear that the energy is not in their favor, and then they ignore/overturn the results, that is far more easier to convince normies that the institutions aren't a viable option anymore. Many still believe that. They won't believe otherwise unless it is beyond doubt. Obviously many still will be in denial, that's not going to be avoided. We're talking hundreds of millions of people and people are messy in the best of times. Americans are not coming with a full deck. Either physically, mentally, educationally, etc. So yeah people will still be frozen. But the point should be to try and maximize the number of people who snap out of it and the more severe the contradictions forced in front of their eyes, the more likely for people to be shaken from their stupor.

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u/Kazooguru 17h ago

The regime has had an additional 5+ years to prepare for a formal coup. There’s zero chance any of these criminals are just going to walk away. These fascists have sycophants running every single government agency that would put the brakes on a coup.

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u/ecstaticthicket 9h ago

You are a breath of fresh air. I feel like I’m going crazy sometimes

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u/PeaceSoft 21h ago

I think it's stupid to convince yourself that possibilities are certainties

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u/Mother_Patience_6251 20h ago

Most live in delusion day to day. This is no different. You’re totally correct and those of us like you, who see things clearly really are a minority.

This extremely coordinated effort by these psychopaths has been working. Partly because people are in denial and can’t discern actual danger. The mid terms are going nowhere. This admin is going nowhere without force and I don’t think enough Americans are willing to lay anything on the line.

I’d really prefer not to live in a country that revels in ignorance and dysfunction. Apparently 2/3 of the population either want brown people dead and gone or don’t care if brown people, women, children and the disabled are treated poorly.

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u/TinyCarrotHats 20h ago

I knew there was a lot of hate in this country. I know my history, and I listen to POC when they talk about how they're treated. I'm trans and I see a lot of hate myself in that way.

But I always believed there was only a minority that truly hated in a way that wanted people dead. Sure, ignorance is more prevalent, but the fuckers who shrug their shoulders (or even cheer) at children in detention centers and children in the back seats of cars when their father is shot, I thought those people were a loud and beligerent minority. And I have been shocked to discover that there seems to be more of them, and they're unabashedly hateful.

Ignorance gave me hope because people can learn their way out of it. They can change. Unabashed hatred, I don't know what to do with that in this quantity.

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u/KiijaIsis 21h ago

Alright you nihilistic mfs,

Stop jumping to the future battles when we haven’t lost or Won the current ones.

If you are that depressed get meds ffs

It’s fine and dandy to warn of the dangers of too much hope, but don’t keep downward spiraling and dragging us with you into all out despair.

That’s not how we win anything

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u/RagahRagah 20h ago

You certainly can't prepare yourself properly for reality when you are refusing to accept it.

I'm trying to help.

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u/KiijaIsis 20h ago

“I TrYing ToHelP!” Hur dur dur by telling people how useless voting is and the midterm won’t do anything and that we’re all DOOMED! Calm down Chicken Little, you’re not helping

“if you can’t face reality..”

-_____- tilt that fedora a bit more why dontcha, so neckbeard cringey…

Sweet summer child,
I was a working adult when Idiocracy came out and it was such a horror movie to me seeing how things were moving in that direction that it put me into a 20 year cycle of suicide watch, in a family with many successful suicides.

I have been a Town Cryer on this for longer than you’ve been alive, probably.

True reality is if you keep impressing All the Negative Bullshit with NO SOLUTIONS people will give up and that’s a big reason the GOP have gotten as far as they have through fear and despair and calls of Armageddon.

If you want to see a fight, then go, but we’re trying to get away from combat as a resolution tactic and

We don’t need anymore whiny, do-nothing but point out all the WRONGS, internet trolls making everyone even more depressed.

So stfu unless you have something Constructive to bring to the table
Kthxbye

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u/RagahRagah 19h ago

Yes, telling people reality so they can prepare is helping.

Trolling? So me explaining reality is "trolling" but you posting paragraph after paragraph with snippy, childish insults isn't?

We have a total lack of understanding of nuance, total lack of self-awareness and endless childish insults even 4th graders should have outgrown. You're just the other side of the MAGA coin.

Grow up.

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u/alwayzstoned 20h ago

It’s going to get ugly for sure, but please vote anyways.

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u/Common-Raspberry-243 20h ago

Doesn’t matter if they want to honor them or not… sure they’ve stacked a lot in their favor… but at that point they would officially be terrorists holding the US government hostage. Right now… what keeps them in power is the official office and all of our might behind them.

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u/seejordan3 22h ago

They're terrified of the DSA momentum.

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u/Were_all_dead_anyhow 21h ago edited 20h ago

And they'll cheat and cheat until some left leaning people finally snap. Then they get to respond with violence like they've wanted to the whole time.

They're looking for their Horst Wessel. Wessel was an SA leader in Berlin who was shot by a Communist paramilitary member in 1930. The nazi party was propping him up as a martyr and rallying cry to justify violence against the political left. Even though his death stemmed from a personal apartment dispute, Goebbels systematically mythologized Wessel into an idealistic hero murdered solely for his political beliefs. His marching lyrics were turned into the official Nazi anthem, the Horst-Wessel-Lied, which became a psychological tool to prompt street brawls and frame aggressive Nazi violence as necessary self-defense against a lawless left.

This calculated victim narrative successfully stoked public fear, paving the way for mainstream acceptance of harsher police measures and the eventual destruction of Weimar democracy.

They tried to do a demo-run of this with Charlie Kirk or how Alex Pretti was an "assassin", it didnt catch on, but they keep trying.

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u/jamaphone 22h ago

*terror-fied

And can I get some freedom fries with my terror-fried chicken?

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u/ghigoli 21h ago

they should be. they're diging the hole deeper in order to escape. everyone else is just gonna put a lid on it.

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u/Katipunera202 21h ago

Just another step closer to cancelling elections for this November.

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u/deadmencantcatcall3 20h ago

They should be.

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u/One_Firefighter336 20h ago

They know they’re the problem, and they know they’re getting thrown under the bus legally, as soon as trouble rears its ugly head.

They hitched their wagons to a convicted felon and pedophile and they’re all shocked pikachu face when their day of reckoning comes… how are you surprised that you’re going to have to face the consequences of your actions??

This whole Potemkin village is falling apart, and the rats are trying to save themselves from sinking with the MAGA ship.

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u/Huge_Strain_8714 20h ago

He's actually chocking on his words because he's not even convinced the hypocrisy coming out of his shite hole is true.

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u/EquipmentFew882 20h ago

.... Exactly Right.

They are going to lose .

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u/RelaxPrime 19h ago

No, they're simply getting their ducks in a row for the left wing violence riots that will occur after they steal midterms.

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u/DoubleExposure 19h ago

Stephen Miller lives on a military base because he is just plain terrified.

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u/mrbasedballed 18h ago

Well, they should be but they're all child raping criminals, along with the DOJ, so I don't expect these criminals to exercise a fair election or do anything a working society would do after the results of the election.

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u/NuckoLBurn 18h ago

Groundwork for the next J6. Gotta fortify those front doors of the White House.

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u/Odd-String29 18h ago

Don't know why though. Even if they lose they will still hold power. 

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u/Deemak3 18h ago

Was going to upvote this, but you’re at 1,776 and I’m a goddamn patriot.

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u/Jedimole 18h ago

Wait till tonight’s schedule Trump talk

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u/The_Freshmaker 17h ago

can't wait for all the crying about how the dems stole it despite them holding every lever of power (other than outright rigging) currently.

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u/dabbler84 17h ago

I’m really enjoying the panic lol

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u/DrKapuskasing 17h ago

They are not. They're just placing enough distractions for the rigging they've already planned. And instilling great in the population so you're scared to stand up to the regime when it's obvious they cheated.

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u/LeLand_Land 20h ago

Between this and how many times they've tried to ram the SAVE act through, I think they see the writing on the wall. It's the age old american truth.

You fuck around.

You find out.

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u/ShrimpCrackers 20h ago

They're not. They wouldn't continue with all this illegal shit otherwise. Authoritarianism is at our doorstep and their gameplan to declare other parties illegal is already here.

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u/PlainBread 20h ago

They're digging deep in the bag of every form of American propaganda that has worked at any point in the past. They aren't even good enough to invent a new one. Just throwing the kitchen sink at the wall.

Today it's McCarthyism again, when both Republicans and Democrats agree that was a mistake.

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u/Common-Raspberry-243 20h ago

I sort of think that and sort of don’t. I think this is just more of their plan. They knew most of this stuff wouldn’t be popular… that’s why they lied about so much of it. So, they had to know that most would be against it… they just keep lying until they feel they have enough in place to stomp out any opposition. Apparently they think that benchmark is the midterms.

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u/Jealous-Treat8060 20h ago

They are preparing to arrest anyone opposing them when they steal the mid terms.

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u/SoungaTepes 20h ago

the party of pedophiles may have to face consequences

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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 20h ago

You realize they're not simply going to let themselves be democratically and constitutionally removed, right? They've come way too far. I'm the most scared I've ever been in my life for the time between October and January.

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u/AJPennypacker39 20h ago

Nah, they don't care about nthe midterms. They are going to make opposition illegal. Fascist playbook 101

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u/tactlessscruff2 20h ago

You still think there are going to be midterms??

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u/3VASIV3 20h ago

They're not afraid of the midterms. They're obviously going to cook the numbers again. They're afraid about what you might do when you realize that your votes have been manipulated.

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u/Memitim 20h ago

The fact that they are worried about an upcoming election while continuing to escalate their crimes and betrayals of America is not a good sign for the long-term health of our nation. Criminals should be worried about a hell of a lot more than an election, especially traitors.

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u/Wembanyanma 20h ago

Or planning for the inevitable uprising when they attempt to meddle with said mid-terms.

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u/tasticle 20h ago

They're prepping for the consequences of trying to steal the midterms.

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u/Mr-Blah 19h ago

No they are not. They are manoeuvering to label all left leaning voting areas as left-wing extremists and justify violence to stop votes.

See brown shirts for examples.

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u/AtotheZed 19h ago

Mid-terms are left-wing - banned!

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u/EnvironmentalValue18 19h ago

Should be terrified of the punishment for sedition and treason. They’re not worrying big enough. Yet.

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u/HoneyShaft 19h ago

They're not terrified. They're making excuses for what they're going to do come mid terms

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u/CaribouYou 19h ago

YOU should be terrified of midterms.

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u/Away_Amoeba5554 19h ago

They are literally shutting their pants. Maybe. But at least figuratively

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u/ExtremelyDecentWill 19h ago

So you're saying that the midterms are part of the liberal terrorist agenda, and we need to cancel them until such time as said terrorist organization has been eradicated with extreme prejudice.

I wish I could end this with /s, but I'm sure that's where this is going.

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u/FibonacciSequester 19h ago

Why? They'll have to sit on their piles of money until the next election cycle?

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u/fishyfishyfish1 19h ago

Because Ku Klux Kaillou here knows he's going straight to prison

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u/ArnoldTheSchwartz 19h ago

Because if everything goes right and how it's supposed to go... they're all looking at prison time!! They manipulated and attacked Americans for profit and power!

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u/Conscious_until_1565 19h ago

I’m terrified of the midterms, too.

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u/etcpt 18h ago

They're not terrified, this is cold, calculated planning. It has been incredibly obvious for a year plus now that the Republican party intends to use every tool and scheme it can lay its little hands on to rig the midterm elections. They may expect a violent backlash because it's what they do when they think someone else is rigging an election against them, more likely they are just continuing the rhetoric of the "violent left" that they spun up in response to largely peaceful protests during Trump I. They're laying the groundwork now to give a semblance of rationality so that they can arrest Democratic leaders on election night and send them off to CIA blacksites while employing deadly force against protesters.

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u/acrowsmurder 18h ago

We won't get them. You all keep blissfully thinking that things are gonna change after midterms, but the reality is we are not going to have them. I would not be surprised if that is part of the propaganda he'll spew tonight is that he has canceled midterms 'for our safety'.

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u/cbih 18h ago

Voting for Democrats is now terrorism

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u/bookelly 18h ago

They should be. It gonna be a bloodbath.

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u/Exotic-Cobbler4111 18h ago edited 17h ago

Im not sure why democrats think they might cheat less than the previous elections. They keep cheating more and more each election and more openly in each election without consequence. All the Republicans could win with 600%of the vote the most Democrats will do is another big picnic on saturdays with chanting and music and short group hike, whichhas really been working great to let off steam as they accept defeat over and over again. Im not sure why people expect those fun PEACEFUL get togethers to mean anything to anyone besides themselves. Its like watching a bunch of Eunuchs trying to start a revolution.

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u/KingRBPII 17h ago

Yeah because they will be held accountable

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u/borg_nihilist 17h ago

I disagree, they aren't afraid at all.  

They have plans in place to say the elections were rigged, the winners (if not their candidates) cheated, and to overturn any results they don't like.  They're setting up the scene for calling any and all dissent, whether it's peaceful protests, direct action, or any speech against them "political violence".  

They have been getting ready to imprison or gun down anyone who doesn't agree.  You think all those facilities they're building to hold people are only for immigrants?  

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u/Neirchill 17h ago

I wish I could have as much confidence in ourselves as they like to pretend

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