r/UnderReportedNews • u/ExactlySorta • 23h ago

Video Stephen Miller announces the US has taken the action of formally recognizing left wing violence as a form of political terrorism, claiming liberalism "is a direct threat to our national security and the survival of our Republican form of government"

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u/Fit-Nectarine5047 21h ago

You are correct 1000% and I’m still not sure how people don’t recognize this. Maybe it’s too upsetting idk.

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u/Expert-Mental25 20h ago

So what's the answer guys? Why are you leaving that part out? Are you afraid of how cowardly it makes one sound to explicitly say they've lost already and will only submit? Is that the option? Submit? Cuz I'll just go grab a rope right now if that's our future. I'd much rather grab something else, be joined by like minded people, and do something even if death and failure is assured. Cuz if it is, why would I not try and take at least one out with me instead of just grabbing that rope? The end is my death regardless right?

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u/birbtown 20h ago

Exactly. History has shown that we’ve had to fight for every right we have. It’s privileged and cowardly to just throw your hands up and become nihilistic, instead of letting it build a fire within you to fight even harder.

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u/RagahRagah 3h ago

This is hilarious.

You don't even have a clue that this is exactly what I"m saying. We are gonna have to do more than vote. Probably literally fight. What does "throwing your hands up" mean to you? I'm saying literally the same thing you are as you appear to be disagreeing with me. LOL.

People regurgitating things without thinking is unfortunately not solely a MAGA trait.

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u/Fit-Nectarine5047 17h ago

Nobody’s saying not to fight or to just roll over die, they originally just said that these elections aren’t going to mean anything because they’re rigged.
And to be realistic about what that implies the populace will need to do

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u/RagahRagah 3h ago

I'm literally saying the same thing he is while he disagrees with me. LOL.

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u/RagahRagah 20h ago

I didn't say I had the answer. I simply stated the reality of what we are facing. Refusal to accept reality means you'll always be unprepared.

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u/Expert-Mental25 20h ago edited 14h ago

It's admittedly hard to tell sometimes online.

Idk if I'm talking to people who are just nihilistic or who think violent revolt is necessary. I believe the latter, but I don't believe it can be done half-assed or too early. Not early in the sense of when the enemies of the people have been meeting their goals, but early in the sense of the state of organization and readiness.

I also believe electoralism can still be useful. No, not to save us. But actually to radicalize more even further. If we "know" the outcome why would we not try to utilize that outcome to our favor? If we just sneer at the electoralism, then when the outcome that we predict (and may have even helped by checking out) happens, people will either hate us cuz they'll blame us, or they'll be checked out further.

If we bust ass in electoralism (ACTIVELY RADICALIZING THOSE AROUND US AND SPREADING CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS ALONG THE WAY), and then the outcome we predicted does actually come true, well now those people don't hate us cuz we were busting ass along side them. And they may even be easier for those of us with clarity to further pull into more radical positions.

Edit: To whoever replied saying not to "organize this online" and asking if I'm a fed, am I making any explicit/detailed comments or plans here online? No. No, I am not.

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u/weresubwoofer 20h ago

If we collectively can’t get it together to vote, then we definitely can’t get it together to revolt. Let’s just get it together to vote.

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u/Expert-Mental25 20h ago

I mean I don't see why both can't be front and center of mind? I can phone bank, then train with like minded folk in firearm proficiency and safety. I can knock door to door one day, then the next day attend my first aid/CPR classes.

We need to be all in on all avenues.

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u/ofWildPlaces 19h ago

You're being defeatist.

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u/RagahRagah 19h ago

No, I'm being realist.

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u/ofWildPlaces 19h ago

No, you're just enabling the administration and the likes of Miller by throwing up your hands and quitting. You're trying to convince people there is no hope and they should capitulate. You're an enabler.

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u/RagahRagah 19h ago

Who the fuck said anyone was "quitting?"

I said vote. I just also said they aren't going to care.

Acknowledging reality isn't "quitting." It's not even an applicable term. I'm explaining that after we vote and they disregard it or steal the election, we'll have to do more than vote.

Literally no one said anything about "quitting." Some of you are just the opposite side of the MAGA coin, you don't fucking listen and use words where they don't even apply because you're regurgitating dumb shit you hear and repeat without thinking about it and breaking it down. Very MAGA-esque.

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u/BodManFeg 18h ago

You need to step out of fantasy land bud.

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u/ofWildPlaces 18h ago

There is no "fantasyland"

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u/druwi 20h ago

There are a handful of solutions but all of them are extremely difficult. I believe in taking gradual steps towards change and step 1 is to accept reality. This is not a democracy. We are not in control. In my humble opinion as a believer in entropy, there's no fixing this. Things have to die, (deconstruct) so something new can rise (construct).

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u/Expert-Mental25 20h ago

I don't really feel like rewriting it all but my other comment gave some ideas that I think we could do to utilize what's left of electoralism.

Not to use it as intended but as a tool to radicalize more.

If we just sneer and quit, most won't be motivated to join us or even believe us that more severe solutions are needed. But if we're there in force and we show up day in day out and are involved, but then our predicted outcome happens anyway and they overturn results, it becomes much easier to convince many normies that escalation is here unequivocally.

I ended up writing most of it anyway lol.

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u/druwi 19h ago

Not gonna lie mayor Mamdani, gave me hope in elections. Someone that is an actual representative. But these people are rare and are the exception to civil servitude.

I've been hearing 'show up and vote' since I've been politically aware and its been over 30 years now. I've gone through phases from optimistic belief to quitting and checking out.

Its complex but to over simplify it. Its either (a) This is a democracy and this how it is whether we like it or not. (b) This is not a democracy and this is how it is whether we like it or not.

Like the comment that started this thread. Its not quitting or giving up. Its objectively looking at reality. I'll even add, its trying something different, something radical instead of doing thesame thing over and over like protesting and believing we can vote a solution into existence.