r/worldnews • u/Raj_Valiant3011 • 22h ago
Germany warns against interfering in German elections after the US state department announced a scheme to fund Maga-aligned causes in Europe
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/15/germany-warns-against-election-interference-as-us-offers-funding-to-maga-aligned-causes-in-europe?CMP=share_btn_url1.7k
u/mfyxtplyx 21h ago
The White House: "Only American citizens should decide American elections."
America: Interferes with elections in Canada, Germany, Poland, Honduras, Argentina...
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u/ccbur1 19h ago
And Hungary, which went great!!
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u/AscenDevise 18h ago
Seriously, maybe Germany can dodge the AfD-shaped bullet if they get some public endorsements from key figures from Trumpistan.
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u/ccbur1 18h ago
Vance - the harbinger of death - on public stage with Weidel would be great.
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u/Numar19 18h ago
I really don't want both of them in Switzerland at the same time though...
Or did you mean that both leave the place they live in and go on a stage in Germany?
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u/enceladus83 16h ago
And their interference in Canada worked. Only in the complete opposite way maga intended. We elected Carney which is the best possible candidate to deal with Trump.
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u/DisastrousAcshin 14h ago
Let's see how Alberta plays out before we declare their efforts as failed
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u/Tech_Itch 17h ago
The double standard is entirely intentional and they aren't just somehow being thoughtlessly hypocritical. It's a built-in feature of their ideology that when you're in their "club", everything you do is by default right, while it's a weakness of your opponent that they have to worry about things like morality, common decency and intellectual consistency.
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u/Accomplished_Ant5895 17h ago
Don’t forget kidnapping the Venezuelan head of state in the middle of the night or remotely executing the Iranian head of state.
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u/Proof-Highway1075 13h ago
Frankly, the US being hypocritical cunts is nothing new.
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u/Mcaber87 16h ago
I expect them to meddle in the upcoming New Zealand elections, too (again). Thiel certainly will. In the past it's already been fairly obvious when the foreign-financed propaganda furnace starts up.
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u/gentileOx 12h ago
And if we include actual coups / wars to change leadership / assasination (+attempt) on states leaders, the list just continues to grow; ... and Iran, and Guatamala, and Libya, and Iraq, and Chile, and Cuba, and Venezuela, actually, lets just include all of South America just to be safe, and Congo, and Vietnam, and...
I'm currently reading The Shock Doctrine (will absolutely recommend, although it is kind of tough to get through) and I can't help wondering "And this country is considered in the west to be the good guys?". Like, sure, most countries, including my own, has some pretty dark stuff they've done, but my God the US has done a lot of shady, meddling stuff in other countires... And pretty recently too.
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u/Beneficial_Tax1976 14h ago
America is the reason Carney even got elected, PP hitched his wagon to Trump’s star and it backfired so spectacularly
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u/ssnnaarrff 15h ago
Wouldn't "MAGA-aligned causes in Europe" just be other fascists? Why would Europeans care about making America great?
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u/-re-da-ct-ed- 13h ago
They think anything within their best interests is justified and “good”, simply because it’s them who want it.
And that’s something that’s been true to a degree, across the entire American political spectrum.
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u/WakeMeUpAIOverlords 13h ago
Don’t forget Musk announcing his support for the alt right leader in France.
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u/Thanks-Basil 6h ago
It’s broadly accepted that the US had a large hand in the Australian Constitutional Crisis in 1975, ie where our government was essentially overthrown through legal channels because the US didn’t like how the then PM Whitlam was wanting to regulate foreign intelligence (read: CIA) operating on Australian soil.
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u/aGermanDownUnder 4h ago
The Coalition in Australia tried to import MAGA-style policies and a culture war. It went great. Lowest election result in history and they're now fighting for existence vs One Nation (our version of the AfD and Reform). Come gather round all ye idiots and conspiracy theorists
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u/SenpaiSwanky 15h ago
American citizens don’t even decide American elections, not really. Our representatives do that, and a lot of them are fans of gerrymandering as well.
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u/clamorous_owle 22h ago
The full weight of the German government should be used to stamp out foreign election interference if there's any sign of it.
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u/SilverbackOni 22h ago
The government will surely contemplate on how to sincerely discuss such complex affairs. They'll be strongly and confidently passive with the fullest of their weight.
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u/KlausDieterFreddek 22h ago
And tbh the US doesn't even need to interfere in german politics to support the maga-friendly AfD.
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u/No_Accountant3232 21h ago
Imagine being the country that birthed Nazis and ignoring the exact same movement from people wanting to be Nazis 100 years later. We're in a scary timeline to repeat.
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u/MrTulip101 19h ago
yeah, our government is making the mistakes of the weimar republic. in the end the legal tools to ban a party that's a danger to democracy were there but the then-chancellor chose not to use them even though a group of prussian legal officials pain-stakingly proved that these laws easily apply to the NSDAP.
now we have the verfassungsschutz that also proved the unconstitutional elements of the AfD or their old youth organization and the people who could are sitting on their hands, either because of cowardice or lazyness since the banning of a party is really hard legally.
the AfD is even using the tactic of using milquetoast language that just skirts the edges of legality.
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u/Sargash 7h ago
Russia is nonstop pushing propaganda about how evil ukrainian immigrants are even though pretty much every economist has pointed out the fact that money given to refugees has been a wonderful boon for small economies all over the country.
many germans just see 'ukrainians get free money but not mee grrrr!!'
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u/Kingsxfan1 18h ago
You can understand why they would want to keep a distance from this whole disgusting shit show. Imagine what would happen if they stood up and pointed out the genocide.
They could do it from a position of a cautionary tale. The people of Germany were whipped up into a frenzy and facism took hold. The result was devastating on a global scale, take it from us and the lesson history tells us all. Dont give in to hate and anger, because you are well down the same path that birthed the nazis.
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u/yaayz 21h ago
Well the conservatives are to blame. They said we half them if we act like we are kinda nazi.... Turns out the Nazis profited.
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u/ChronicBuzz187 20h ago
Imagine being the country that birthed Nazis and ignoring the exact same movement from people wanting to be Nazis 100 years later.
We still tell ourselves that they're just a bunch of cheap knockoffs.
At least our self-proclaimed "greatest fuhrer of all times" was able to string more than two coherent sentences together. He definitely had some pedophiles in his ranks, tho, so at least for that part the US is on a "good" way... /s
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u/Electronic_Lemon4000 18h ago
But you see, things are expensive, theres a lot of people here who look kinda strange and speak foreign tongues - even on my favourite TV show! Very threatening indeed, and look at all these radical violent leftists, some even with colourful hair and... Oh shit is this a dude in a dress? And goddamn windmills aaaaaargh!
Dammit, somebody needs to clean house!
Big, huge stinking /S
Same bullshit as always. Present scapegoat, blast hardcore propaganda 24/7, promise to "fix things" - one dude even talked about digging mass graves, they are not subtle. We don't need to wonder why Germany fell to these bastards 1933 - you just need to mobilize enough gullible people who think they will suffer no consequences when the "great cleansing" comes around.
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u/No_Accountant3232 14h ago
I think the biggest difference is that there are so many citizens here calling for that cleansing. I went on Nextdoor and you would not believe the amount of cheering I see from people that ICE is cleaning the streets of undesirables. only they're next on the list if history holds.
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u/Electronic_Lemon4000 7h ago
I live in eastern Germany and the rampant casual racism here is wild. People casually talking on the train... "could you believe I had to show proof of having an appointment to one of THESE at the door?" Bunch of young guys arrive at the lake and plop down to chill. Some middle aged guys near us eye them suspiciously and one told his mate "gotta watch out for these, they're always trouble". Because every person looking slightly too arab or african must be a violent rapist, no? Nothing happened of course.
And the indignation in their eyes when a poc or someone with rainbow pins sits down next to them would be hilarious if it wouldn't lead to horrible shit in the end. Never openly heard anyone cheering for ICE here yet, but the amount of people who would be fine with work camps or detention camps is unnerving. Of course they're next, they're mostly working class guys who will get shafted one way or the other und a fascist regime - you run out of scapegoats sooner or later.
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u/sparkax 19h ago
Imagine being in the country that inspired the Nazi's and watching as we turn ourselves back into that same Jim Crow-era levels of segregation and control over minorities that the Nazi's could only dream of attaining.
The only real difference is that Jim Crow Era south was keeping the formerly enslaved Americans in a different form of enslavement and control.
The Nazis and modern day Conservatives are all wanting to take rights and freedoms away from people who already had a taste of that freedom and will not give it back up without a fight, and right now we Progressives are still using the rules and laws as they were meant to be used, to protect everyone. Its the Conservatives around the world who are actively destroying the global order just to hold on to their power and wealth.
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u/Grey-fox-13 19h ago
The conclusion will be that somehow it is the fault of the workers being lazy, if they weren't so interested in work-life balance or calling in sick they wouldn't have been subject to interference, obviously.
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u/frissio 20h ago
It's outright illegal in other countries than Germany as well. Any American or European who do this will be arrested.
So, it's not a question of change of policy, but of enforcing it.
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u/playfulmessenger 19h ago
election interference includes targeting and influencing citizens do to dumb things, e.g. brexit
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u/Galaghan 16h ago edited 3h ago
What do you mean with 'this'? What do you think constitutes interference? Because according to my view, it's already happening.
P.s. I don't expect that this question will ever be answered by anyone.
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u/GuerrillaRodeo 19h ago
This is what we should have done at least since 2014, when it became clear what Russia's true intentions were and information warfare really took off. The current government is sadly so incompetent that they're actively shooing away potential voters to the AfD. As much as I'd love to see Merz go (just 14% approval rate, even Annoying Orange polls higher), I'm afraid the next government would be even worse according to polls.
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u/McortezLSU 19h ago edited 17h ago
lol
full weight in that the german gov is sucking trump cock even harder. Germany's governments somehow keep getting more pathetic as time progresses.
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u/425Hamburger 20h ago
"the full weight of the German government"
So a mildly worded statement about "monitoring the situation" and a personal gift to Trump.
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u/SirSheppi 19h ago
Hitting as hard as a wet brezel. I have no trust in our current goverment to push against this, they didnt do shit against russian interference either.
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u/ZebrasGonnaZeb 18h ago
Excuse me, the full weight of the German government is currently being used to worsen the lives of the workers of this country. Don’t put so much pressure on our poor overworked politicians /s
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u/Ydyalani 12h ago
I wish you were joking, but as someone who will be severely impacted by those new "policies", I unfortunately know you are not... the new retirement and employment stuff impacts pretty much everyone, the new health policies severely impact chronically ill people like me. I have chronic migraines. I WANT to work. I genuinely do, so much that I usually drag myself to work unless my headache is a 9/10, but even at a 7/10 the pain is usually debilitating already and I will sit at my desk like a wet noodle (oh, but did you know that desk jobs apparently have no health risks?). I called in sick three times without a sick certificate this year, the rest of the time was with one of them. I went to work with a 8/10 headache last week - and it got me a three day hospital stay and a still severely disordered blood pressure and heart-rate. I really wonder how they think I will manage if I have to get a sick certificate every time. Should I crawl to the doctor's office? That would be the only way to get there for me with the vertigo, muscle weakness, nausea, tinnitus, and partial blindness I experience during bad attacks. Not to speak of the phono- and photophobia.
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u/LuckyOrganization695 19h ago
yeah if there's credible interference it should be taken seriously no matter where it comes from
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u/RevolutionaryTerm913 19h ago
yeah if there's credible interference it should be treated as a serious issue. elections only work when people trust the process. looking the other way just makes things worse. better to deal with it early than after the damage is done.
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u/Neomataza 19h ago
Clearly not familiar with Germany, lol. This is like the first thing ever mentioned about possible election interference, possibly in a decade.
Escalation is going slowly.
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u/SpunkyMcButtlove07 18h ago
As someone who's been living in germany since kindergarten in the late 80s:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha....
T_T
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u/ensoniq2k 18h ago
There's already enough funding from Russia for the AfD party and no meaningful measures are taken... To the contrary, the current government is making changes so unpopular AfD is getting more popular in polls week for week...
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u/charcoalist 21h ago
trump's State Department is actively working with AfD. Meanwhile, X and Meta promote right-wing propaganda on their outlets. If Germany wants to fight this, block X and regulate Meta. And call out Rubio and his Russia-affiliated underling Darren Beattie.
And a warning for other EU countries: This same cabal is actively working in your country to overturn democracy and promote right-wing, Russia-allied, politicians.
Germany’s anti-immigrant AfD party finds open door in Trump’s America
Trump Official Behind Controversial Russia Decision Has Kremlin Ties
How Elon Musk uses his X social media platform to amplify right-wing views
Elon Musk is in 'regular contact' with Vladimir Putin, new report alleges
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u/VanceKelley 20h ago
And a warning for other EU countries
And for Canada.
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u/charcoalist 20h ago
The Alberta separatist movement is absolutely one of their schemes.
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u/Casual_OCD 17h ago
It's deader than Mitch McConnell
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u/GoodIdea321 17h ago
In the 90s the US acted like our democracy was going to last forever, and lots of people stopped doing the maintenance for it.
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u/clamorous_owle 20h ago
Canada responded relatively quickly to threats made by Trump. He seldom bleats about "the 51st state" any more.
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u/TheMeaning0fLife 19h ago
Not quite as simple as that, unfortunately. Plenty of folks in Alberta actively support a separatist movement that’s very obviously a right wing schism activity. Basically every province also now has one or more politicians who parrot some select MAGA talking points and seem to be following a right wing populist playbook.
Luckily it seems like they’re still a minority, but it’s pretty jarring to see.
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u/humanprobably 19h ago
It's so much more complex than anything that any one person does.
Complacency is defeat.
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u/no_dice 19h ago
He did either yesterday or the day before. Posted an image to truth social that had Canada/greenland/venezuela with the American flag on them.
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u/MadRaymer 19h ago
And it's worth pointing out that (despite their denials) the AfD isn't merely a right-wing party. They're a Nazi party. They have members openly praising Hitler, downplaying his atrocities, and claiming his leadership was actually a net positive for Germany.
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u/CilleTheExterminator 19h ago
Sadly EU will never grow any balls and ban garbage like twitter.
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u/charcoalist 19h ago
They could at least require flagging posts and specific right-wing agents. Russia has been attacking the EU with hybrid warfare since at least 2007, with the cyberattacks against Estonia. EU ministers are surely aware of this and should take action, instead of leaving the door wide open for the attackers.
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u/CilleTheExterminator 19h ago
EU politicians are like other politicians. They sell out to the rich. That is why they won't ban Elons garbage
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u/SnooCats3468 18h ago
which Austrian party are they supporting?
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u/charcoalist 18h ago
I don't know, have to look into it. They convene at international conferences such as the Worldwide Freedom Initiative, Republicans Overseas, and CPAC. Look for the Austrian attendees and there's your answer. Or just search for whatever their far-right party is called + Elon Musk, or [far-right party] + Russia.
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u/Otis_Inf 19h ago
If the EU collectively blocks X because of rightwing propaganda and interference with elections, X will surely feel that in their income.
Sadly I fear the EU is too chicken to do it.
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u/Spectral_mahknovist 15h ago
Darren Beattie? The guy from the Alex Jones debate who said J6 was a false flag?
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u/Ignifazius 22h ago
No interference needed, the current government is already involved in multiple MAGA foundations.
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u/PTS_Dreaming 21h ago
The United States has joined countries like Russia in pushing illiberalism.
The United States is now a malignant nation and the world should isolate us like we used to isolate Russia.
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u/InfiniteTank6409 19h ago
"like we used to isolate Russia" did we actually follow through this? We are at like 18th sanction package and we still buying lots of gas directly and indirectly from Russia, the reality is that we are unable to put money where our mouth says, if we had ever put 5% of next gen eu funds to ukraine in 2022 putin would be 3 meters under by now probably
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u/PegLegBronco 19h ago
No country on this planet is truly isolated. North Korea gets help from China.
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u/InfiniteTank6409 19h ago
Sure but word and action have been so far a part it's tragic. I'll give you an example: I live in Italy where post covid for a period of time has been introduced a 110% discount for people renovating houses ("pushing the economy and helping climate change"), this has cost Italy around shy of 200 billions of euros. If we took the money spent for this in only 2 regions out of 20 (Veneto and Lombardy) and in a magic world redirect those money in Ukraine in March or April 2022 would mean increase the help of Ukraine by 10 fold. I.e. 2 regions of a relatively fucked up state in the eu could have easily put russia in a VERY difficult situation. The reality is that citizens of democratic states for the majority would sell their democracy for 29.99€
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u/mortisthewise 21h ago
I have never been more embarrassed about my country.
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u/20past4am 16h ago
So far
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u/mortisthewise 16h ago
I am pretty much at emotional rock bottom. This timeline sucks
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u/Zaxxon_Klaxon 21h ago
Trump next week: “Germans want to be the 51st state. They all told me so with tears in their eyes!”
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u/-SaC 18h ago
"Also did you know they named some of their cities after cities in the US? Not many people know that.
Berlin, Connecticut is loved so much by the Germans that they even named their capital after it. They named another city after Frankfurt, Kentucky. There's even a place in North Dakota called Bismarck that they even named their nobles and a boat after!
The Germans love us and me so much."
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u/Ydyalani 11h ago
There are even two cities called Frankfurt in Germany! Frankfurt am Main and Frankfurt an der Oder. Though I guess calling the second one a city is somewhat of a stretch, it has less than 60k inhabitants.
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u/go_go_tindero 22h ago
So the scheme was announced, but Germany doesn't do anything ?
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u/SilverbackOni 21h ago
The leading government party already has strong links to the MAGA cult. I guess from a MAGA perspective, that ain't enough.
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u/Parcours97 17h ago
Of course not. Jens Spahn is best friends with Peter Thiel, Ron DeSantis and a lot of other MAGA guys.
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u/Wandering-alone 13h ago
They're too busy fucking with regular german people in every way possible lately
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u/Ooops2278 13h ago edited 13h ago
Why would they do anything?
Even the announcement is just for show.
The "conservative" government is closely aligned with Trump's fascist plans, their leadership closely connected with MAGA and the heads behind Project 2025. And they are working hard to push the far-right AfD, to reach the point where no majority without right-wing morons is possible anymore. Their only problem is that the AfD will simply chew them up, just like MAGA did with the Republicans. But is that really a problem if you are deeply corrupt and only interested in power anyway?
The only rlevant question is, if other parties will fall for their "do as we say or we build a government with nazis instead"-extortion or if we skip that step and directly continue to allegedly moderate conservatives bringing nazis to power again like they already did in 1933.
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u/live-the-future 21h ago
Iran: *charges tolls protection money for ships to travel thru Straight of Hormuz without being attacked*
Trump: "Hey, that's a great idea! Let's do that too!"
China: *uses a technologically-advanced police state to spy on and surveil its own citizens*
Trump: "Flock and Palantir are great companies! Every patriotic MAGA should support this!"
Too many authoritarian regimes to count: *uses feared police force to "disappear" disfavored segments of society*
Trump: "If you're a foreigner and not white, ICE is comin' for ya! Oh and sometimes the occasional American too."
Russia: *interferes in US elections*
Trump: "Hey, that's a great idea! Let's do that too!"
Trump: Using only the bigliest ideas from the world's most bigliest terrible governments.
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u/Haru1st 21h ago
Germany better invest in strengthening its counter intelligence or it might see some very unfortunate election results come to pass
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u/VanceKelley 20h ago
Also Germany could educate its citizens so they are able to think critically and gather information to be well informed. As a bonus the government could also explain that racism is bad such that an overwhelming majority of the electorate rejects candidates espousing racist policies.
When the vast majority of the citizens are smart, decent, caring people the threat of fascism is dramatically reduced.
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u/SynthFei 19h ago
As a bonus the government could also explain that racism is bad
Hard to do when half your campaign was about how bad migrants are and the other half about how increasing debt is bad, only to increase debt after getting elected.
But at least he briefly noticed that the atmosphere in the country is bad... except he blamed everyone else but himself for it.
Also Germany could educate its citizens so they are able to think critically (...)
Still waiting to see a single country that managed that part to be honest.
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u/meganoob1337 15h ago
you forgot that we don't work enough, and shouldn't call in sick
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u/Ydyalani 11h ago
Even when we are sobbing on the floor with a chronic migraine, a neurological disorder the WHO calls one of the most debilitating disorders in the entire world! Guess I just spent three days in the hospital and a week on sick leave due to lingering issues with my blood pressure and heart-rate (as in, they are abysmal and cause heavy dizziness) because I'm lazy, huh.
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u/Wurschd 22h ago
Well, the funding will be for those seeking to “address national sovereignty" (among others).
Let the German Government apply for this funding, and use it to avert the scheme to preserve national sovereignty.
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u/OtheDreamer 22h ago
Technically they'd be allowed & if their program was in amity with the US they could accomplish multiple things at once....
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u/Backwardspellcaster 20h ago
Dude our German government right now is doing their best to emulate the US Republicans.
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u/Realistic_Let3239 20h ago
So first the US fell to Russian backed assets, now they're trying to spread it to Europe... you know, this sounds like that domino theory the US was so scared of. Ironic they were the first to fall...
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u/shiromiso 19h ago edited 18h ago
They literally want to give millions of dollars to European organizations that are “opposed to supranational systems”. AKA: the European Union itself, the United Nations and the international criminal court.
The US is afraid of the EU because they are well aware that they can bully and manipulate any single country, but they can’t take on the EU as a whole.
The USA government is now openly trying to dismantle the European Union from within. He’ll do anything except releasing the full unredacted Epstein files?
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u/not_the_droids 20h ago
It's our own fault (or rather the government's) that the AfD is still around.
The party violates our constitution and should be forbidden. I don't give a shit about democracy in this case, we've tried Nazis before and 10s of millions of innocent people died.
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u/coronakillme 21h ago
First, they need to get the single mothers to go work more apparently.
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u/Ydyalani 11h ago
And the chronically ill. And everyone working a desk job, since, as some very wise economist reminded us just recently, those have absolutely no health risks attached*.
*except those caused by lack of movement like chronic back pain, cardiovascular disease, stress, burnout, staring at a screen for long periods of time, and many, MANY more.
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u/PensiveinNJ 20h ago
Far right figures like Steve Bannon and others have been working to destabalize democracies using technology for a decade now.
There is a whole global political movement that have been pushing "MAGA causes" for most of my adult life.
These are people who've been closely aligned with people like Trump since the beginning. They've been doing it quite effectively in service of politicians and technocrats in a more covert way but it was still happening even if it wasn't publicly declared.
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u/scone_monster 19h ago
US sets up European election interference fund on the same day Trump will go on live TV complaining about Chinese election interference in 2020... all to deflect US 2026 mid term election interference they're about to commit. Makes for a great episode for the next season of House of Cards on Netflix.
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u/eternalityLP 13h ago
We need a wall. A big wall. All around US. To keep all the BS inside from contaminating rest of the planet.
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u/ordnance_inbound 13h ago
The US and Russia competing to see who can be the most evil
Russians are currently ahead, but the US is gaining on them
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u/ganjakhan85 19h ago
Oh goodie. Still no money for healthcare, but we can give millions of taxpayer money to influence foreign elections.
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u/keepgoing66 19h ago
Ah, so Trump yells about foreign influence in our elections, but no problem with us doing it to them. He has literally no morality other than "ME ME ME ME."
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u/Crabbyrob 16h ago
So just to get this straight, the Chief Moron is going on tv later tonight to complain about election interference, all while funding election interference all around the world? Projection much?!
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u/StormyDankiels 6h ago
Trump's just saying the quiet part out loud now, the US was meddling with foreign elections for ages.
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u/Professional_Gene_63 20h ago
It will always just be a warning, it's not that something happens with it. Cannot act on AFD, not relevant enough. Cannot act on AFD, too big now.
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u/Woodcrate69420 19h ago
German government is currently controlled by the CDU which is part of the whole MAGA / Orban / Heritage Foundation network and connected to Peter Thiel's shitty oligarch group.
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u/ProShyGuy 17h ago
Canadian here; they're going to do it regardless. They're funding the Alberta separatism movement.
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u/wingnuta72 12h ago
The MAGA brand seems to be toxic in Europe. Trying to openly push their preferred candidates will have the opposite effect.
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u/Electrical-Bee-7362 20h ago
American conservatives are a cancerous tumor that I hope doesn't spread also in Europe
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u/EconomicRegret2 21h ago
So typical of fascists.
You know because Nazi Germany tried that shit on America.too, in the 1930s and 1940s: extensive covert operations to shape election outcomes, funding and coordination with American isolationist groups to promote non-interventionist politicians, etc.
Also, just like what Russia, Iran, and China are trying to do in the West, today.
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u/LawfulOrange 19h ago
Is this not exactly what Trump is going to whine about China doing tonight? The hypocrisy abounds.
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u/Important-Factor-552 19h ago
Sorry but if this comes as news to you, you're not one of the sharp ones.
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u/edelweiss_pirates_no 19h ago
Fuck 'em up, Germany!
Every country on the planet should announce sanctions and warnings against the US Trump-Nazi Regime to not meddle in their elections.
Make it loud. And make fun of how they such at football.
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u/Ooops2278 13h ago
Not going to happen.
The leading government party is deeply connected with MAGA and the heads behind Project2025 and they are the ones driving polls for AfD nazis up by constantly parroting their propaganda as if their lies were actually real.
Sure, the AfD will eat them up, then shit them out again, just like MAGA did with the Republican party. But does this really matter if you are a deeply corrupt asshole only interested in power anyway?
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u/echoshatter 18h ago
My wife talked about us leaving the US before things got bad here. Germany was high on the list of places to move.
I tried to tell her that if things got to the bad point she is worried about, it really wouldn't matter where we went. They would make what happens here happen in every other country.
"Don't give up the ship!" isn't just a badass quote.
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u/Nullcast 17h ago
From Europe to USA: You fix your country, and we will fix our countries. We don't need your interference.
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u/Sphism 14h ago
Just ban twitter everyone. It's just bots and right wing propaganda.
Honestly i wouldn't mind a total ban on politicts across all the big social media sites. Clearly there's a fuck ton of money being pumped in to destabilise democracy with zero penalties for spreading complete lies.
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u/Jetztinberlin 21h ago
They've been openly supporting AfD, rewriting Twitter algos to platform them, etc etc for over a year now. Not exactly a surprise.
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u/Ooops2278 13h ago
for over a year now
You might have only realized this over a year go, but it's happening much longer.
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u/MercantileReptile 20h ago
Wonder why they even bother, Merz and his merry band of thieves creative financing people, lobbyists economy minded people and dubious people in general do all the work for them. Conservative Union + AfD would already be a parliamentary majority at 358 seats.
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u/TurbulentRadish8113 20h ago
The Russia-Republican alliance against democracy is incredibly dangerous.
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u/O-parker 20h ago
So MAGA response to foreign election interference is foreign election interference 🤭
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u/FN-2187FN 21h ago
People in AFD are now Mrs. Crabs when he sees money… funded by both Putin and Trump. Bank accounts about to go stonks.
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u/MarvelousVanGlorious 21h ago
MAGA can’t even do this right. We’ve been meddling in elections for decades.
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u/Several-Opposite-746 20h ago
Meanwhile, Hoestra is still shocked and aghast that a province in Canada meddled in a foreign election by taking out an ad that quoted Ronald Reagan word for word.
Rules for thee and something something.
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u/williamgman 20h ago
If this news does not "trump" the blathering old man going on TV tonight to lie about election fraud... there should be mass protests. Electio interference with a NATO allie..? Really?
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u/DrRealName 19h ago
Just arrest whoever Trump sends there and hold them forever. Trump thinks he is untouchable, prove he and his goons wrong.
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u/JoyousCacophony 19h ago
We already know that the US (via Musk) is trying to pump up the AfD and couchfucker has been working for the same from a different angle
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u/ItzFeufo 19h ago
Yeah you don't need interference in this one right now
The current parties are already doing their part that we are going to be giga-fucked in the upcoming years
The shift to the right wing party is insane and it's not going to stop as long as fucking morons like Scholz and Merz lead the country and the 2 (so far) biggest parties try to block each other while the german population is the one that has to suffer under all of it
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u/Commercial_Earth_126 19h ago
This is a very clear line this government is crossing. That’s enough! They must be removed, they pose a treat to world freedom.
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u/GrowthDue5259 18h ago
MAGA has got to be the pinnacle of hypocrisy. Don’t get me wrong, no one is squeaky clean, but boy do they take it to the next level.
MAGA: a group that is willing to go to any lengths to force society to align with MAGA ideals…
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u/ElPimpoBimbo 18h ago
We have Elon Musk endorsing Marine Le Pen here, get ready for it.
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u/Ydyalani 2h ago
They also endorsed Orban and the AfD already. Sadly, looks like it won't be a stopper on AfD ambitions here. The current government is too incompetent and anti-people. Not that the AfD will do any better, mind, but somehow the braindead moron believe they will be. Beats me why anyone would think that...
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u/lylelanley- 18h ago
As people are forgetting about boycotting and not checking grocery labels anymore, they are full fucking steam ahead
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u/Specialist-Bug1592 17h ago
Isn’t Trump’s speech tonight about the evils of foreign election interference?
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u/R3puLsiv3 17h ago
Merz, when he realizes global capital is no longer aligned with conservatives but with fascists. At least I'll have a reason to leave this dying country after the AFD wins the next elections.
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u/scoopzthepoopz 17h ago
Is it the same guy who said every sick leave needs a doctor visit? Yeah what a man of the people
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u/Ydyalani 11h ago
Yupp. Maybe in his infinite wisdom he might also be able to tell me how the fuck I am supposed to do that when my migraines hit again. Am I to crawl? Am I to call the ambulance? It's a mystery!
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u/Rusty3414 14h ago
It’s not enough that they ruin this country, they need to spread like a disease apparently.
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u/TherapeuticPsycho 14h ago
While he goes on air tonight to whine about (checks notes.....) election interference. The balls on this mushroom
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u/TheBongOfSauron 7h ago
Dude, what?
What the fuck are we doing, guys?
I just can't... I'm so fucking tired of all this.
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u/mimoso2024 2h ago
Hiw the fuck is all this even allowed to go on, for so long? They are being blanked and open about how they want to target other country politics. What in the fuck is EU doing about it? Slap on the wrist? Ffs
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u/Alternative-Suit5541 21h ago
They will do it anyway and it will have zero consequences, mark my word lol
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u/Cat-At-My-Door 22h ago
US keeps dicking around and I am telling ya....they won't like it when the Germans rearm themselves.
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u/LLJKotaru_Work 19h ago
Cool, we are taking another page from the Russian book of interference. I'm so thrilled. /s
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u/kurtchen11 20h ago
America used to fight nazis and even pay to rebuild the german democracy. Now they pay nazis to fight german democracy.
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