r/worldcup • u/Ready_Appeal2157 France • 11d ago
📰News France are requesting that Olise’s yellow card be cancelled because he didn’t touch the player.
It is now official, even though rumours had already been circulating a few hours earlier: the FFF (French Football Federation) has requested the cancellation of Olise’s yellow card. The booking was given for a non-existent foul on Galarza.
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u/Maximum_Flight_4442 Brazil 11d ago
Yeah genuinely ridiculous . 3 cards for France none for Paraguay 🤣🤣
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u/puffyisreal 11d ago
Paraguay weren't even playing football. Came to fight
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u/Maximum_Flight_4442 Brazil 11d ago
Yeah it was genuinely ridiculous the fouls the refs were letting them get away with. It was a shameful performance and I’m glad Mbappe was laughing at those mfs and didn’t shake their hands
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u/peanut-britle-latte USA 11d ago
Turns out maybe it's a good thing for FIFA to formalize an appeal process for wrong calls.
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u/BobbyPyouknowme 11d ago
It exists. They just don’t do it during the World Cup. It’s always baffled me.
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u/CasperAverage Germany 11d ago
Completely agree. I always thought it was weird they didn’t have that process during the World Cup.
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u/BobbyPyouknowme 11d ago
A multi-billion dollar non-profit can’t figure out how to truncate the appeal process for 6 weeks every 4 years? US federation would have appealed directly to the committee about improperly applied VAR protocol and none of this other conversation would have happened.
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u/CasperAverage Germany 11d ago
Exactly. They already have an established process for red card review during the World Cup (for if the suspension needs to be extended). They really cannot establish a process with the same committee about an appeal?!
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u/2LostFlamingos 11d ago
There obviously should be an appeals process to correct when the in match officials fail to follow their own rules regarding using real time video and not slow motion and still pictures.
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u/blaring_tossing 11d ago
My brother got a phantom yellow in a rec league final once and they still bring it up at barbecues. That call was so soft it basically never existed.
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u/P4cific4 11d ago
I got a red card and I was not even at the game. The Referee decided my number was the one who committed the fault and I was suspended for a game. I explained, with proof, that I was not present at the game but the federation did not care - one game suspension nonetheless.
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u/blaring_tossing 11d ago
That's next-level infuriating. At least my guy saw a ghost, yours just invented a whole player out of spite.
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u/MontEcola 11d ago
Was this when the player took a dive? FIFA is allowed to remove the yellow card. And they are allowed to suspend the player who took a dive when they review this after the game is over. It is in the rules.
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u/sightfinder 11d ago
Yes, didn't this literally happen in the US vs Paraguay game? Yellow card rescinded for non-existent offense from US player and given to the Paraguayan player for diving / simulation.
Same situation with France vs Paraguay, and should be rectified after the fact bc it wasn't caught during the game.
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u/Conscious_Moment_727 France 11d ago
I hope they do, the guy punched himself and acted like it was Olise. Crazy dude
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u/DistinctMoney2558 11d ago
The card should definitely be overturned this match was a great folly on the referee’s part no doubt about it. The guy punched himself and got Olise a yellow card make it make sense
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u/Rick_Flexington 11d ago
To be fair, Paraguay’s lack of sanction with their hijinks may have helped Americas case
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u/7862518362916371936 11d ago
A player from Paraguay tried to make a hole at the penalty spot but Mbappe saw it and filled it back before the shot. Disgusting team.
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u/thundergu 11d ago
Fifa just opened a whole can of worms they would wish they never touched
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u/SomethingFunnyObv USA 11d ago
Considering there are implications if he gets a yellow in the next game they should be asking about it. It was a complete bullshit card.
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u/Defiant-Landscape880 11d ago
Exactly. Like I’m so confused why people are opposed to not letting terrible calls get players suspended for the next match in the biggest sports tournament in the world
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u/Blackstar1886 11d ago edited 11d ago
I don't know why FIFA doesn't do this on the regular. I can understand not doing it mid game, but when you have all the time in the world and it's an obvious mistake it's so weird not to overrule those situations as a rule.
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u/Ok_Pound_9840 11d ago
France has nukes too. I think Macron has the leverage to get this card rescinded.
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u/Ok-Tale-4197 Switzerland 11d ago
Let's just start it all over again, the whole world cup.
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u/DaktCole 11d ago
Well, this was predictable. In a reasonable world FIFA would acknowledge that an appeals process is appropriate and implement it for the World Cup to ensure that to the extent possible games are decided on the field and not by bad calls.
This is FIFA, however, so they'll probably upgrade the yellow to red and then preemptively suspend the waterboy.
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u/bigbadbass 11d ago
I am requesting a replay of the 1986 quarter final England v Argentina.
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u/Chemistry-Deep 10d ago
England have put in appeal against Maradona for the 1986 world cup handball.
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u/Impressive-Power8187 11d ago
They’ll do it to take the heat of their other corrupt acts
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u/CWill97 USA 11d ago
FIFA needs an appeal system specifically for the WC. There are so many days in-between games that they can do accelerated appeals processes.
The last thing the world of soccer needs are its best player NOT playing.
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u/MoringA_VT 11d ago
I want Lula to call Infantino and request that both Norwegian goals to be canceled too
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u/VoltrefferVick 11d ago
I want Van Hooijdonk to receive the stoppage time PK he deserved in the 1998 WC semi-final.
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u/Trinidad34 11d ago
As they should if a call is blatantly wrong. Thats why appeals and reviews processes are in place. To review and correct mistakes
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u/Sassy_Sausages22 11d ago
Should’ve been reversed on the field and the paraguay player carded for embellishment
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u/thestridereststrider 11d ago
That seems appropriate. When we have the technology for there to not be wrong calls idk why anyone would want the wrong calls to stand
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u/Ryn0113 11d ago
Good! They should overturn, incorrect calls and recind cards, if any were involved.
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u/Dan_Broccoli_7663 11d ago
Good. The technology exists to overturn missed calls so use it. This isn't 1950
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u/Myselftye3rd 11d ago
I want Uruguay win after Suarez committed the handball in 2010 reviewed and Ghana to get a guaranteed spot in the 26 final and award Gyan with the golden boot.
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u/Adventurous_Week_698 11d ago
Also scrap the result of the 86 semi final when Maradona handballed it into the net
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u/Mta_sipisial 11d ago
The hell has happened to football? Morocco winning afcon in +3months extra time, Balogun suspension remitted after orange man allegedly booty called Infantino, and now this, past few months of football has been crazy😭
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u/WayOutbackBoy Norway 11d ago
France following USA lead. A great win for the sport as players are no longer hampered by horrible refs saddling them with cards that carry over multiple games
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u/Time-Wolf USA 11d ago
I mean, I think this is the right outcome, just not the right journey. There should be no automatic suspension for red cards. Any suspensions should be in addition to after being reviewed.
Yellow cards are tricky because technically there’s no discipline to be suspended yet. If Olise gets a second in the QF, then it should absolutely be suspended.
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u/Financial_Reason_792 11d ago
I don't see an issue with it either. That yellow should be rescinded. It was a horrible call.
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u/Firsty_Blood USA 11d ago
Galarza deserved a yellow for that. But apparently falling over without being touched is just a Paraguay standard.
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u/GreatGrub 11d ago
He did get touched or in this case punched just... by himself
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u/Firsty_Blood USA 11d ago
It's possible Olise used the Force on him. We haven't ruled that out yet.
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u/n19htmare 11d ago
Everyone would stop this nonsense REAL quick if there were repercussions for them.
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u/PsychologicalHost371 11d ago
In addition to canceling the yellow card I really think FIFA should enact some sort of penalty on Paraguay and especially Galarza. Also the referee should face consequences because ultimately it’s his responsibility to not let players get away with repeated egregious behavior.
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u/MeteorAndRain 11d ago edited 11d ago
I want Beckham's red card rescinded from the 1998 World Cup match against Argentina where he kicked a player after being fouled by the same player.
This player later admitted that he had done it on purpose.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/may/19/worldcupfootball2002.sport9
Paraguay pulled this exact stunt in their match against France (along with everything else they did) and didn't get carded for it at all.
Conversely, Beckham returned to England and was greeted by people burning effigies of him because his red card ruined their chances for the World Cup.
Edit: In other words, there is a problem with fairness.
You want to make exceptions? Fine. Then make exceptions for everybody.
If Paraguay escaped Beckham's punishment despite the same foul shown on TV, then Beckham should be pardoned.
If Ronaldo had to sit out for one match to get the rest deferred, then so should everyone else.
That said, France is asking for a yellow to be rescinded, not a red. No brainer at this point.
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u/DescriptionCorrect40 Sweden 11d ago
Sweden here, I’d like Teddy Lucic’s red card against Germany in 2006 to be looked at again. Thank you.
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u/Passport_Chronicles 10d ago
Look at France not following procedures. Everyone knows Macron has to call and pay Infantino.
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u/GodKamnitDenny 11d ago
Completely unrelated question, but does anybody know how to set the default sorting of comments to “top” when opening a thread? I swear every single subreddit I visit, even new ones, are set to “top” but for some reason this fairly active one always defaults to “new” and the extra button clicks are really pissing me off.
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u/sammiches621 USA 11d ago
I mean maybe this could be the start of a formal appeals process?
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u/Bavarious 11d ago
We have cameras on every player for 100% of the game with multiple angles to choose from. How they allow shit like this to go on is beyond me
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u/Calm-Percentage5085 Mexico 11d ago
FIFA will wipe your DUI, they don't care as long as the checks clear
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u/warneagle 10d ago
Probably should be tbh. It was a terrible decision in a terribly officiated game.
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u/herbieLmao Germany 11d ago
I am hereby requesting of giving us the penalty against spain from 2024
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u/Etnadrolhex 10d ago edited 10d ago
When we saw how bad the referee (or corupted, or both?) was for this match... It should be 100% canceled.
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u/Next_Imagination_128 10d ago
When you see that Paraguay got ZERO CARDS, RED OR YELLOW, then they should request cancelling all 3 yellow cards really.
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u/baddiessboogie 9d ago
This comment section is making it very clear how Trump got elected twice.
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u/KyloOinkOink430 11d ago
It’s not gonna get overturned… Macron isn’t Infantino’s daddy like how Trump is.
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u/InFiveExFive 11d ago
Introducing the new trump soccer pardon program.
For as little as 1,000,000 remove a yellow card. 5mil red card, 20 millions yellow card protection for one season.
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u/sammiches621 USA 11d ago
Their nations get added to the peace board too, for any purchase.
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u/breakfastbenedict 11d ago
They should name these new phantom cards the Trump card.
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u/Stock-Breadfruit294 11d ago
I want Materazzi to go to prison for life, just sent a request to the FIFA
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u/Mental_Amphibian1935 11d ago
Yeah it should be, that was a totally unjustified card and it should be removed. Cards should absolutely be reviewable when they have consequences in subsequent games.
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u/albert_pacino France 10d ago
Isn’t it fucking nuts that this isn’t already a thing
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u/TeamParking8818 11d ago
I'm of the opinion that this is a good thing. Allowing obviously flawed officiating to stand for some misguided attempt at keeping on-field decision sacrosanct is just a relic of the past before high def camera. It is no longer necessary, soccer needs to keep up with the era.
I'm not saying that the referee's decision should be challenged during the game, but after every game the same internal review of the referee's decisions should include an option to rescind obvious errors.
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u/GripAficionado 11d ago
Yeah, if it results in a fair and even evaluation of cards afterwards, then I think it's a good thing. If it is applied with bias, then this direction makes the sport worse.
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u/Firsty_Blood USA 11d ago
Paraguay will insist that Olise show a negative midichlorian test to prove he's not a secret Jedi.
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u/Milk-Tea-With-Sugar France 11d ago
Let's redo everything, let's change group for everything, and let's do a France vs Cape Verde please, I have been dying with curiosity to know how it would end up to be !
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u/chaunceypooo 9d ago
if infantino will change the rules for a president surely he will do so for the dictator as well
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u/ClickChix 11d ago
Yes, hold bad refs accountable. Ban the refs instead. How do you get it wrong after having the bird in your ear and VAR? Its insane
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u/Hot_Guess_1871 11d ago
Let’s just restart the whole thing and try again.
I need more Cape Verde anyway.
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u/Secludedmean4 11d ago
Good - it was a shitty call and the referees should be held accountable. It’s 2026 recognize mistakes happen and that you have technology to make a corrected call. Hold refs accountable and actually call out flopping while we’re at it.
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u/Jump365 Spain 10d ago
Usa really opened a can of issues after the red card turn around. Now every card teams are gonna request review...good that's what fifa gets.
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u/Majestic-Alarm-1130 11d ago
Keep a close eye on the decision FIFA makes after rescinding the card given to the American Balogun…
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u/CliveUnicorn 11d ago
Should ask Macron to call Infantino, seems to be the way nowadays.
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u/Equivalent_Place8519 USA 11d ago
Ya def a good one to suspend/cancel - that was nonsense
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u/w1ze07513 World Cup 11d ago
Fifa is only a phone call away.
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u/DoritoDustThumb 11d ago
Only if you're a nobel......sorry FIFA peace prize winner and grift the grift with the grifting grifters.
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u/justk4y Netherlands 11d ago
Can Leandro Paredes and Lionel Messi still get red cards as well for their 2022 performance against us? Pretty please 🥺
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u/Icy_Many_3971 Germany 11d ago
How about the cucurella-handball? If so, can we maybe wait a year or two to retake that until we have trained proper players to take the pen?
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u/jemappellelara 11d ago
Would normally be against overturning but fuck it since the US have set a precedent. Even worst since their president/head of state got involved.
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u/falconeur 10d ago
I can support reviewing cards if cards can be retro actively given for blatant dives. Faking injuries should get you tossed from the tournament if replay can show the dude never even touched you.
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u/Xibalba_Ogme 9d ago
That's the kind of thing that should exist in all sports : faking being hit in order gain some advantage should be harshly penalized, even after the game, whatever the outcome of the game was
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u/ZookeepergameGlobal5 11d ago
To the list of requests coming from this post, this is added:
I want the red card from Remo Freuler in Switzerland - Spain 2021 revoked. Therefore the 23 minutes which we played with 10 men must be played again. If Switzerland makes it, the final and semi final also have to be played again.
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u/GripAficionado 11d ago
I guess Macron has to call FIFA and complain about it.
(And yeah, it shouldn't have been a yellow card in the first place).
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u/videogamevirgin_ 11d ago
Good! As it should be, countries should go to bat for their players.
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u/martybad 11d ago
Hope he gets it, it's only good if these calls can be reviewed and corrected before they have more (incorrect) consequences
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u/Real-Mixture-6951 11d ago
Yeah randomly making it possible to post game overturn debatable decisions mid World Cup playoff sounds like an amazing idea
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u/DagoWithAttitude 11d ago
Why not? American football tourists declared that reviewing the red card wasn't that bad so I guess that doing the same with a yellow card will be fine
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u/S1eeper USA 11d ago
They're doing it wrong. They need to have Macron call Infantino in private and offer him some kind of tasty bribe.
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u/Medical_Gift4298 11d ago edited 11d ago
as an american, I'm fine with this.
it's not our fault infantino wanted to play this game, and now he should play it.
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u/Intelligent-Shame643 Morocco 11d ago edited 11d ago
We also have five yellow cards.
I’d be happy if the Moroccan FA pushed to get two or three of them wiped off 👉👈
Pandora’s box is already open anyway.
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u/DTripotnik Belgium 11d ago
Good. Let fifa show that they're set out to rid the sporting world of injustice! Go fifa!
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u/eibane8840 11d ago
Hell yea France got shafted by the dogshit ref clearly a card that needs to be rescinded, this coming from an American
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u/livinthedadalife 10d ago
England will try to appeal that red card from yesterday now too
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u/Slotsupremacy 11d ago
Macron should give infantino a call. Hey it worked for balogun and the orange supreme leader
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u/NamoMandos 11d ago
And so it begins...the barbarians are at FIFA's gates. Ah well, Gianni...reap what you sow.
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u/Wrong_Opening3846 11d ago
FIFA are the barbarians. They came through the gates decades ago. It's wild to see people shocked that the most corrupt sports organization in the world is corrupt.
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u/M_FootRunner 10d ago
Yes, in hindsight, Paraguay was not playing football so all teams that lost to them should be reinstated and given free passage into the quarterfinals
And since the Dutch are. In hindsight. The best team ever they should be champion. Rutte, fix that.
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u/bsteckler USA 11d ago
I'm sure this will spark lots of measured, reasonable discussion, which is a hallmark of Reddit
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u/Simonthebullettfreak Norway 11d ago
Oh com on, Reddit is so much fun when sitting and waiting for Mexico and England. I appreciate all the expertise here.
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u/Defiant-Landscape880 11d ago
Why are you people even opposed to stuff like this? Do we not want to get the calls right? I promise if it was your team’s star player being suspended for the next game from a BS red card, you’d be elated if they did the right thing and fixed it.
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u/Laez 11d ago
I can't speak for the rest, but I want the to get the calls right all the time. Not just when they feel like it. There needs to be a standard review and appel system not just caving to pressure.
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u/Open-Education5567 11d ago
Let’s be real. If there was an appeal process every country would use it for their players that got carded.
It should just be that every card handed out in the WC would be reviewed later.
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u/Laez 11d ago
Either would be fine. What you can't have is some arbitrary back room shit show.
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u/New_Inflation_8419 11d ago
Let's see how consistent FIFA is. trump turns everything to shit when he touches it
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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 11d ago
Ya they better overturn that after what happened with balogun.
He literally did nothing to him and the Paraguay player deserved a card for simulation
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u/Federal_Studio5935 USA 11d ago
If it’s the wrong call it should be rescinded, no?
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u/TechnicalSleep7501 Uruguay 11d ago
FIFA just opened can of worms with that US decision.
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u/GoldenRamoth France 11d ago
I hope it's a good can
And by that, I mean establish a formal review process to fix the issue - finally.
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u/Longjumping-Car-8367 11d ago
Lol is the can of worms they holding themselves responsible for mistakes?
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u/Panhyper 11d ago
Yes. Revoking yellow or red card after review should be the new norm. Such an injustice if Olise got another yellow in his next match and miss the later stages due to a refereeing error.
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u/EnvironmentalBat5369 11d ago
Thats the least egregious thing the officiating crew did in that game
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u/__Precursor__ 11d ago
People will stay mad for holding bad officials accountable but also mad for bullshit calls. I hope they get it reversed
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u/faramaobscena 11d ago
Maybe now US supporters can see what their corruption has unleashed, all suspensions should be rescinded in this competition because you can't bend the rules for some and not for others
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u/scorpiknox USA 11d ago
If Donald Trump told MLB or the NFL to overturn a suspension, they'd laugh in his face.
FIFA is as corrupt as Trump.
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u/MC_chrome 11d ago
People are talking mad shit about the United States, but have been curiously mute about Portugal getting Cristiano Ronaldo’s remaining two game suspension lifted prior to the World Cup.
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u/Fake_Hyena 11d ago
I’m requesting to cancel the two red cards Belgium will surely get in the game against the US tomorrow.
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u/Comedyfish_reddit England 11d ago
Get trump involved. He can suck fifas dick and make it happen apparently.
The fucking plank
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u/moonfire098 11d ago
Good as rhey should
And if FIFA does it, no one should be upset about the US thing, myself included
My gripe with this whole thing is the timing, FIFA waited too long to make the change, but jf they start listening to appeals for horrific calls made, rhen I feel its more fair across the board and then makes sense.
They've set the precedent now, they should do this with any scenario where bad calls were made
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u/Electronic-Dingo-172 11d ago
Some absolutely incredible takes on here from people that have been watching football for 2 weeks.
No one thinks errors shouldn't be fixed. But there should be a clear and open process as to how and why this happens. It should be open to all countries, not just the ones where the President has Infantino's phone number.
There are systems to do this in domestic leagues around Europe. There would have been zero complaints if FIFA implemented something similar before the World Cup.
But that's not what happened here. We don't even know who in FIFA made this decision, why it was made, what criteria was used, what other countries can apply to have mistakes reviewed etc.
This is 'justice' for the rich and powerful and a great big fuck you to everyone else. Which explains why so many Americans see no problem with it.
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u/Ok_Anywhere_2861 11d ago
Just for the record - the vast majority of us Americans who have been watching soccer for a couple of weeks completely agree with you and were shocked that FIFA didn’t already have a process like this in place. Every other sport we watch has a review and or appeal process for illegal hits, hard fouls and suspensions. You are right the process SHOULD be there for everybody and for something like the World Cup EVERY card - yellow or red should be reviewed. In today’s modern world of internet gambling FIFA would do a lot to help prevent corruption by doing this and should make it public every single time and explain the reasoning.
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u/Ok-Elderberry-1608 11d ago
This is 'justice' for the rich and powerful and a great big fuck you to everyone else.
and extremely consistent behavior by FIFA. Ironic you are calling out other fans for only watching football for two weeks as your take appears to indicate the same level of experience as those fans.
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u/Known-Emergency5900 USA 11d ago
The solution is simple. All bookings should be subject to review. The penalties are too severe to let jackass officials who are probably gambling on the tournament make these decisions with no oversight.
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u/cashmonee81 11d ago
I mean this seems an obvious, easy solution. But this sport seems to be in love with vagaries and subjectivity to preserve the charm of the sport.
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u/Candid_Score6316 10d ago
Germany should ask for Balkack’s 2002 suspension to be revoked and then the final should be replayed.
While we’re at it maybe England can ask for 2010 Lampard goal to be reviewed as well?
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