r/worldcup Canada 27d ago

📰News Morocco captain Achraf Hakimi will stand trial for rape, French prosecutors have confirmed

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c20y18z7le1o
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u/f00tballguy 27d ago

Cleveland Browns front office is already making calls to his agent

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u/pwaves13 27d ago

University of Miami calling up too

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u/More-Part-9613 27d ago

Morocco gonna have a helluva time getting into Canada if needed

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u/EmergencyInternal837 26d ago

It's not really fair to deny someone entry over allegations...If no convictions then the accused is innocent until proven guilty.

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u/Teeenagedirtbag 27d ago

Morocco has a 0% chance of playing in Canada thankfully. Our path is projected to entirely exclude Morocco

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u/Anonymous-Josh 27d ago

Could play in Mexico tho so hopefully he gets his visa denied to be in Mexico

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u/EmergencyInternal837 26d ago

I dint really understand the hate here over accusations...I would agree if he was convicted of rape to deny him entry to oxygen

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u/Anonymous-Josh 26d ago

So you’re good with defending and supporting someone for it to turn out they are a rapist all along and you were defending them against that claim for nothing but the love of the game?

Plus because rape is so hard to prove in court so it doesn’t necessarily mean the person didn’t do it just because they aren’t convinced. People can have their own judgement outside of what the court says based on the evidence available

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u/speedbreaka 21d ago

So you are good with attacking someone who might be innocent just in case it was true?

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u/Fglre 27d ago

“The Versailles appeals court said in a press statement that it ordered that Hakimi be formally charged with rape. The court said that the investigations conducted during the inquiry and the judicial investigation led the investigating chamber to conclude that there is sufficient evidence against the player to stand trial.”

-BBC

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u/Alex72598 USA 27d ago

Damn. Genuinely had no idea about this until someone mentioned it on the game thread.

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u/Adventurous-Tone-311 26d ago

Same. He seemed like a nice dude. Oof 

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u/Big_Increase3289 27d ago

I hope the truth will come out whatever it is and the one who is to blame get and appropriate punishment

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u/Left_Knee_y0y0 25d ago

"I've been waiting for this trial since day one. And now I'm eagerly awaiting it. Finally, I'll be able to speak." Hakimi

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u/ghostdeinithegreat 27d ago

That means Morroco needs to win group C if they want to have their captain play in round of 32.

Runner up of their group play in Toronto and Canada will not let him enter the country.

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u/Ambitious-Sink2725 27d ago

No Partey was only denied because he lied on the form if Hakimi tells the truth he should be fine

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u/darekd003 Canada 27d ago

Did we ever hear if the other guy who was denied also lied? His charges were for spot fixing. I never heard if it was the charges themselves or the lying.

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u/CorditeKick USA 27d ago

That’s not how it works.

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u/LaDainianTomIinson 27d ago

Group C teams won’t play any games in Canada

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u/Delta_Foxtrot_1969 27d ago

The worst part was the hypocrisy.

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u/rammer-jammer71 USA 27d ago

Here’s an upvote for being a Normie

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u/rammer-jammer71 USA 27d ago

I disagree, I think it was the raping.

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u/DW241 27d ago

In the movie Dirty Work, it’s “the lack of respect.”

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u/jstilla 27d ago

Well, except for the other thing. That was the worst.

But the second worst thing? The lack of respect! Ridiculous.

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u/evolvolution USA 27d ago

I didn’t even know he was sick

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u/JapanEngineer Australia 27d ago

Both accuser and accused looking forward to a trial. Interesting.

Hope the truth comes out and justice dealt.

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u/AstamanyanaQ 26d ago

Hakimi filed to stop a trial from happening, and he lost. He's blatantly lying about looking forward to a trial.

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u/MyEyebrowsAreReal 25d ago

Because most rape cases are about power. Same reason Epstein Island exists. If you can have anyone you want, you start looking for people you can’t have/don’t want you. At the same time, famous+rich people are more likely to be accused of rape because it would be a blow to their reputation so they settle with money. But let’s not pretend like rape is super rare, especially amongst powerful people. Don’t make assumptions against the victim

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u/ozdgk 27d ago

Damn. He will face difficulties entering Canada.

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u/RyMcCloud 26d ago

The amount of incels in the comments is scary

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u/Realistic-Stress-213 24d ago

The hardcore football fan/incel Venn diagram is a circle

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u/Bigwhizcity82 25d ago

Welcome to the internet buddy

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u/ItsKyanVB 25d ago

There’s an actual rapist playing for Marseille in france with proof posted all over social media and nothing happened… How will this be any different if he even did it

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u/Boggo1895 25d ago

Well hopefully this would be different if he got convicted because he would actually be convicted and Greenwood isn’t.

I’m not saying greenwood didn’t do it but if convicted Hakimi will likely see jail time, hard to play for psg from behind bars

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u/Popular_Tomorrow_204 25d ago

One gets shit on by the english the other one gets loved by a lot of ppl. They probably wont even care. So why should his Nation and Club do anything?

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u/ItsKyanVB 25d ago

His nation and club shouldn’t have to do anything the police and judges should

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u/T0t0leHero 27d ago

that's one of these edge case where it's hard to make a clear opinion : you got one woman accusing him of rape, after agreeing to meet him at his home alone and she didnt let autorities access her phone + there's a few exchanges with her friend implying she's looking for money or hide something.... I'm not saying she lies, but there's some troubling elements of context leading to be cautious about AH being a rapist.... a trial is much needed and i hope for everyone truth be clearly made...

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u/AstamanyanaQ 26d ago

Unfortunately for Hakimi, the likelihood becomes quite strong he will be convicted, because French courts do not generally pursue a trial unless the evidence is sufficient. We just don't have the evidence they found from their three year investigation, and we won't until the trial.

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u/minivatreni Croatia 26d ago

Do we know what evidence we have? Will the courts make this info public?

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u/Biacksmith 27d ago edited 27d ago

Maybe she is not handing over her phone because she was flirting with him and agreeing to go to his home. Maybe they even texted about wnating to have sex. She might think it will invalidate her claims.

We had a case in our university where a local student was romantically interested in a Phd student coming from a non-Western culture. Of course she went to his apartment because she was interested in him and maybe more. But planning to have sex and getting raped are two different things. He raped her and framed it as consensual sex saying that because she accepted coming into his apartment, she must have wanted it (forced sex). This is the real gray zone that causes a lot of reports to get dismissed unless you have very obvious evidence or quickly subject yourself to a genital inspection where obvious violation points to rape. The female student's case was dismissed by the police because she had exchanged romantic texts with the rapist and voluntarily went to his apartment.

A lot of women pursue a man sexually but then halfway through realize that they want to back out and then get raped. Not saying it always happens but that it’s a very common scenario because the other person might not take a "No" for a No and decide they deserve to take what they want.

Not saying that she is the case for what’s happening here but just throwing this out here.

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u/T0t0leHero 27d ago

There's a lot of possible scenario, good luck to the judge...

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u/Moist_Alfalfa_5463 26d ago

So how do you judge rape then?

I feel for the woman in your example. But, how does one fairly judge for rape then? If you texted romantically, went to the mans house late at night and were intending sex and then backed out, but the man forces you I agree its rape. But what if you do have sex and then regret it. Whats the distinction for the judge to analyze beyond your words? Whats the proof?

Similarly, whats to say the woman even enjoys the sex but realizes she can extort money or fame or sympathy, to then trap him and get money.

If everything up to and until the event points to your interest in the man, then how do you prove rape?

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u/PrinceWhoPromes 27d ago

On Reddit you’re guilty until proven innocent. Same as what happened to Matt Araiza.

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u/Blueman126 27d ago

Nah on reddit you are guilty even if you are proven innocent

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u/Shot_Sell8977 Spain 27d ago

That's witch hunter mob mentality 😁

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u/Anonymous-Josh 27d ago

“On Reddit the alleged victim is guilty of lying and extortion until proven innocent”

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u/Top-Mastodon5777 27d ago

You've not been on reddit enough if that's your opinion.

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u/grog23 Germany 27d ago

My man most of the world’d legal system puts the burden of proof on the accuser. He’s innocent until proven guilty, as it should be. Her allegation is taken seriously and is leading to a trial. Once the evidence is presented and weighed at court, we can assess if it’s enough to prove him guilty

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u/Commiescommitgenocid 27d ago

Burden of proof is always on the accuser.

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u/minivatreni Croatia 26d ago

Do we know all this stuff is true? A lot goes around on social media.

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u/Ratbelly76 USA 27d ago

Werent there 2 other footballers not allowed in Canada for rape related charges?

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u/throwawar4 Canada 27d ago

One was for rape accusations —Thomas Partey of Ghana, and One for gambling/game fixing—Elye Wahi of Ivory Coast (the latter has since been resolved I believe)

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u/darekd003 Canada 27d ago

Thanks for the update on the Ivory Coast guy. I hadn’t heard more about him since the initial denial of entry.

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u/moham-17 27d ago

I don’t know enough about this situation.

Innocent until proven guilty.

If he’s guilty then fuck him. But until then play on.

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u/Big_Increase3289 27d ago

I agree. I am not saying that’s the case, but in Greece we had a similar situation with a football player few years ago.

I remember a clip in the news where he was cuffed walking towards the police station and he was telling to the cameras “they are doing it for the money”.
Eventually, two young girls were indeed doing it to get money from him and were blackmailing with texts.

The man got released and was found innocent but his career was over in Greece, so they transferred him.

Hopefully, whoever is guilty will be also punished whether if it’s Hakimi or whatever

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u/Inevitable_Motor_685 26d ago

how many rapists are there in this world cup

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u/SchmidtHitsTheFan Canada 26d ago

Do I need to mention the most prominent host country and its government?

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u/Lifekraft 26d ago

Possibly a lot honestly. Given how insane some of these relieve/ celebrating parties can be.

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u/Own_Durian_3853 24d ago

Him, Partey, Cristiano 

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u/FeralGiraffeAttack Cabo Verde 26d ago

Unfortunately there are lots of rapists everywhere. Humanity sucks

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u/Key-Toe-6257 27d ago

Good. I want every Arsenal hater to now go after PSG too. They knew the things in the background too and did nothing. 

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u/Torch3dAce 27d ago

Will his Visa be removed?

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u/Natalie12TEG 27d ago

Fast-tracked

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u/no_youre_not_i_am 27d ago

green card incoming

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u/VanceMcChance USA 27d ago

😆

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u/twavvy Australia 27d ago

Nah he’s running for President

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u/paisleyhaze 27d ago

American president, right?

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u/MyzMyz1995 27d ago

If the Gana guy didn't get a visa this guy shouldn't get one either otherwise it's not fair

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u/Wooden_Masterpiece_9 27d ago

Partey was Canada.

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u/Adds9 27d ago

He just had a belter game against Scotland when his visa probably should have been rejected 🤣

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u/Informal_Degree_3205 27d ago

Nah the us likes rapists, we put one in the white house

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u/Choice_Fee67 26d ago

Funny how they're going after all soccer players but not a single person on the Epstein files

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u/Spare-Coyote8209 25d ago

mind you all rapists deserve jail, wnherever they re from

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u/vinceftw 26d ago

It's almost as if it's 2 different countries.

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u/Feisty_Bag_5284 26d ago

The French are going after them as well, the only EU country doing so

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u/Liam_021996 25d ago

The French are the only European country to not give a shit about what the US thinks or threatens tbf. Spain and the UK have also recently shown that they can infect grow a spine when dealing with the US

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u/Meph616 USA 27d ago

Robert Kraft is on the phone right now to sign him to the Pats.

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u/professorquizwhitty 26d ago

They should all get together and have a partey...

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u/sephitor_ 27d ago

FIFA is letting a rapist hand over the world cup after the finals, so I guess it doesn't mattee much to Infantino.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 27d ago

They gave the rapist a gold medal and invented a fake prize to fawn over him.

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u/Minguri22 27d ago

The host president is a rapist and a pedo and what anyone did about it? He isn't just handing trophies either.

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u/Top-Mastodon5777 27d ago

Edit: Nvm, kept reading, got my answer.

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u/MaleficentAttempt841 27d ago

Why should he be labelled as a rapist before the trial is over? Accused does not equal conviction.

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u/Significant-Main4201 27d ago

Trump has been charged with rape actually

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u/GelatinousPinapple 27d ago

And found guilty.

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u/sephitor_ 27d ago

Because he has been convicted already. Yet you're still defending him.

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u/MaleficentAttempt841 27d ago

Who? Hakimi? He has been convicted?

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u/Wise_Adeptness_9529 27d ago

Like he’s going to hand it over; he’ll just keep it. 

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u/SevereRunOfFate 26d ago

The hypocrisy is the worst part, some say

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u/enteimologist 26d ago

I disagree. I thought it was the raping

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u/PlaneShort9569 26d ago

Saw this comment section already guys

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u/Fit-Round-4221 26d ago

You know, I find most rapists to be hypocrites

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u/Jasperneal 27d ago

Japan’s Ito Junya faced a similar situation where he was kicked off the national squad after two women accused him of rape. It turned out that the women were lying so he was able to return but they almost ruined his life and career

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u/Sczeph_ 27d ago

Correction: both the case against Ito and Ito’s countersuit for defamation were dropped due to lack of evidence. That’s not the same as the women lying— it means that there isn’t enough evidence to prove either way, and as no conclusion can be drawn so innocence is assumed.

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u/CaeruleanSea England 27d ago

I think a lot of ppl don't realise this - look at Conor Mcgregor.

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u/Sczeph_ 26d ago

McGregor is even worse— a court ruled that he did rape and sexually assault a woman, he had to pay like a quarter million euros in damages and he lost the appeal. How people can still respect that guy is mind boggling and disgusting

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u/CaeruleanSea England 26d ago

It's revolting & depressing in equal measures

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u/Jasperneal 27d ago

always important to take it with a grain of salt (not 100% proven) but I remember it was leaked who one of the girls was who accused her and she was an “instagram influencer” who had a history of accusing famous celebrities of sexual assult so a lot of the Japanese public has the view that Junya Ito was innocent despite the court rulings.

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u/Luddevig 27d ago edited 27d ago

Don't know if that's true. However -- Kaishu Sano who plays for Japan during this WC -- was accused of SA but was never indicted.

The Japanese head coach let him return to the team and said "I strongly felt that he is truly remorseful," following up with that they shouldn't cast him out "for making a mistake," kinda implying he in fact did do the SA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaish%C5%AB_Sano

Edit: Ito Junya was never kicked off the national squad? Unless you mean now when he is 33 and isn't in the squad for this WC. He is even in the squad for this WC lol

https://www.transfermarkt.de/junya-ito/nationalmannschaft/spieler/348791/verein_id/3435

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u/throwawar4 Canada 27d ago

A quick google doesn’t lead me to this info, do you happen to have a source

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u/Capable_Remote9783 27d ago

Theres also Kaishu Sano accused of gangrape.

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u/Admirable-Hawk8524 27d ago

Make him president! Hes got the qualifications.

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u/jz3735 27d ago edited 27d ago

If he’s found guilty, I suppose he’s right at home in the US.

Edit: Since it seems to be going over some people’s heads, I’m referring to the President of the United States being found liable for sexual assault.

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u/Signalrunn3r 27d ago

This is reddit, we don't care about due process, guilty until proven innocent!

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u/InFLIRTation 25d ago

If proven innonence there are still guilty on reddit and its rigged 🤣

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u/slicerprime USA 26d ago

Following the Reddit Universal Formula:

(S + h2) - e = (U x ∞)

where S is snarky, h is hate, e is evidence and U is upvotes

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u/Ghadaro Paraguay 26d ago

Upvote/downvote is the worst thing to gain prominence online. Too many people would do or say anything for a cheap like with no consideration for the impact the resulting mob mentality can have on other people.

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u/Leather_Ad8779 World Cup 27d ago

Damn moroccos tournament run might be cut short
if this goes

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u/smokingace182 25d ago

How’s he able to get a visa for the World Cup?

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u/TheLastHotstepper 25d ago

Im surprised they havent rolled out the red carpet and made him Vice President.

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u/JDHYA 25d ago

Prob cuz he hasn’t been convicted of anything

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u/redditis_garbage 25d ago

I doubt Trump knows where Morocco is

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u/Freyjir 25d ago

I doubt trump is against rape.

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u/banevaderlol_ 26d ago

I think he is innocent. They met on Instagram and he sent her a cab to bring her over to his house late at night.

I doubt she intended to meet up with him to play checkers. Not saying it's impossible for her to have changed her mind, but it certainly doesn't look good.

Then she refused to turn over her phone for forensic analysis. She also refused a medical exam.

It's said there were texts after the alleged rape where she was asking Hakimi for money. If true, Hakimi should have those messages and assuming the court allows them, they should be reviewd during trial.

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u/AstamanyanaQ 26d ago

Unfortunately, these seem to be social media claims, rather than facts in front of the judiciary. A three year investigation resulted in the judiciary rejecting the social media claims, despite most cases like this not being not allowed to go to trial. The fact that this one is allowed shows that he's more likely guilty than not. I won't assume he's guilty, but it's not kind to the victim to assume the courts are wrong and social media is right.

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u/Gen8Master 26d ago

We are about to find out. There is still the possibility that she consented and withdrew it after the deed because the rich dude lost interest or she didn't like the outcome. 

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u/Little_Seaweed_6228 26d ago

It’s a shakedown 

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u/ICreditReddit 26d ago

You can rape a person who's fully trying a shakedown.

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u/ICreditReddit 26d ago

More likely? Someone intending to sleep with you to shake you down with a rape accusation is 100% going to accuse you of rape.

You can also rape that person.

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u/ConsciousAudience845 26d ago

this why trials are important

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u/ttue- 26d ago edited 26d ago

The first part of your post is very disturbing. Whether a woman goes to see a man for sex, if she changes her mind it’s a rape no matter the initial intention. If she says yes but refuses some practices it’s rape. Not discussing the rest of the post but this kind of assumption that you can force soneone just because she’s there and can’t change her mind is the mentality of a potential rapist.

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u/_miinus 26d ago

I don’t think the point of the comment was to suggest that wouldn’t be rape, or that he knows for sure it wasn’t in this case. Just that the existing circumstantial evidence paints a more believable picture of a false accusation to him.

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u/Omar___Comin 26d ago

In no way does OPs comment include an assumption that you can force someone just tbecausr she's there... He's just saying that the circumstances are that she went there willingly for a hookup initially which is relevant, albeit not definitive

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u/Longjumping_Level347 26d ago

it would be the best for situations like this that it's mandatory for them to video tape their whole interaction

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u/Jhopsch 26d ago

Neymar did exactly this, she accused him of rape, and he showed the recording. The woman ended up punished for false allegations

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u/waxym 26d ago

I must have missed this case. Wouldn't he then be liable for recording without permisssion?

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u/Jhopsch 26d ago

He said he left it recording on accident due to I believe a video call he was having earlier. I don't buy it. I think he suspected she was going to pull this off and was one step ahead. Also the justice system is a little different in Brazil so there may be exceptions for things like these. I didn't follow the case either, only skimmed over the news article.

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u/bobbyawesome5 26d ago

It’s not that she changed her mind when there, it’s that the evidence is leaning to the fact she probably went as a willing hook up and decided to extort him for money after the fact.

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u/hades334 26d ago

^^ This. Regardless of whatever was happening up to that point or what led up to it, if at that moment someone doesnt want to have sex and is forced into it, it's rape. Ppl need to stop trying to make it sound less horrible cause 'they were interested at one point'

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u/unorthodox0407 26d ago

Sure surr... but the odds of this woman trying to run a scam and blackmail a rich man then getting angry it did not wotk and accuses of rape wouldnt be the first or last of her kind in the last 10 yrs

Hard to believe her is all

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u/Competitive-Bit-1571 26d ago

She should have caused a scene after it happened or called the police right away instead of accepting the cab. This looks like the classic post coital (hours later) withdrawal of consent or dissatisfaction of payment.

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u/Merkenfighter 26d ago

Holy fuck, dude. Look up “enthusiastic and ongoing consent”, before you embarrass yourself any further.

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u/No_Fish265 27d ago edited 27d ago

Pull him out of the World Cup then. Fuck these losers

EDIT- All you little creeps saying “he’s innocent”… dude was called home to a new contry for RAPE. Fucking losers too

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u/seththedark 27d ago

Unfortunately the rest of the world believes guilty until proven innocence and even then, your name is ruined.

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u/Commandant1 Canada 26d ago

Innocent until proven guilty doesnt mean that a country has to give a visa while someone is charged and awaiting trial in another country.

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u/Quantum_Aurora 27d ago

"Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense."

- UN Declaration of Human Rights

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u/Spirited-Double2391 England 27d ago

You don't have to prove your innocence in almost all democratic countries. The prosecution has to prove guilt.

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u/nico_cali 27d ago

To be free, sure.

On the opposite side, immigration can not allow you in (look up Partey in Canada) if you’re a potential criminal.

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u/LaDainianTomIinson 27d ago

Sit this one out, Colombia is a lawless country ran by narcos - people get away with far more than rape there

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u/malomolam 27d ago

Don’t base all of your assumptions on US popular media lol

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u/nico_cali 27d ago

Nice opinion. Was talking about Canada who doesn’t need to let them in, as they didn’t let Partey in, but cool opinion.

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u/bbc733 26d ago

Not a fan of due process I see

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u/Estepie88 USA 27d ago

Puts on Morocco

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u/no_youre_not_i_am 27d ago

/r/worldcupbets

edit: didn't think it was real but i guess i shouldn't be surprised

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u/Anonymous-Josh 27d ago

The real reason to be hating Morocco and PSG. Seen as they’re eliminated hopefully one of the Haitian players can do us all a favour

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u/herbieLmao Germany 26d ago edited 24d ago

Luiz Diaz knew what he was doing

For those who don’t know, im talking about this: https://youtube.com/shorts/-vh29Yu2cCE?is=Jx_A_LEd8njZLN4B

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u/Jaded-Sorbet-8098 25d ago

and here I was thinking that I couldn’t hate Morocco even more

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u/jona_Lander 25d ago

Lol same, but you get downvoted for even mentioning it 

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u/Jaded-Sorbet-8098 25d ago

we’ll never forgive TowelGate

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u/jona_Lander 25d ago

Morocco a sorry ahh team

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u/Andrikos21 26d ago

Only Kaya is shocked.

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u/UnknowingEmperor 26d ago

I understood that reference

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u/Leather_Ice_1000 27d ago

I understand the sentiment but that is so problematic unfortunately

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u/ComplexPlatform7299 27d ago

Wait what? I never heard anything about this! What happened?

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u/throwawar4 Canada 27d ago

Not many details. But he maintains his innocence, while plaintiff’s lawyer says he has been dragging her name through the mud since accusations arose in 2023(their words not mine).

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u/vpu4 27d ago

It is a very sketchy accusation. The accuser has texts literally bragging to her friend about how she will seduce and extort him. She has refused to turn over her phone to the police even though she is a plaintiff.

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u/karateguzman 27d ago

And yet despite this they consider enough there to prosecute

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u/Dangerous_Copy_3688 27d ago

Do you have any sources for this?

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u/Dangerous_Copy_3688 27d ago

Thanks a lot! That's very interesting.

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u/throwawar4 Canada 27d ago

Interesting

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u/elemenelope 27d ago

They also found texts between her and her friend saying something like “what texts did you show the police already, so I know what to delete”.

Sounds like this could be a classic extortion case against a rich and famous target.

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u/Think-Apple3763 25d ago

This is the guy that put all his wealth under his mother's name and his ex wife didn't get anything when they divorced? Tells me all

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u/Temporary-Ebb-3130 25d ago

how tf is that a bad thing lmaoooo cuz some women didn’t get HIS MONEY ?

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u/TheMafioso21 25d ago

Lmao it tells you the guy is not a dumbass

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u/Own_Durian_3853 24d ago

The story is fake and probably legally impossible, courts in most countries would see this as an obvious trick and it wouldn't fly. It's like saying I'm not paying my employees, I am giving them gifts every month. Those schemes got figured out a time ago

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u/B_lintu 25d ago

It tells you nothing...

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u/casca14 25d ago

It tells you that he is aware of the snakes and hoes around him.

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u/Own_Durian_3853 24d ago

It's fake 

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u/AccidentlyStupid 25d ago

That he's got his shit together?

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u/Soulaymanee 21d ago

I hope someday you marry a gold digger bitch who will take half your money after 2 years of marriage .. that would tell you something

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u/JDHYA 25d ago

Why would his ex wife deserve any of the money HE made?

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u/TPK85 25d ago

Depends what sacrifices she made

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