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u/Kyzzz 14h ago
“Never again” we said. Yet here we are
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u/sylbug 14h ago
Dude ‘never again’ was always bullshit. How many genocides have there been since 1945? How many perpetrated or funded or otherwise cause by America? Come on, now.
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u/CoIdHeat 11h ago
„Never again“ is a warning to learn from the lessons of history and be aware whenever a movement based on hatred may form itself with the potential results being the abolishment of rights up to the abolishment of democracy, the installation of a dictatorship or terror regime or even genocide.
It doesn’t mean that you’re responsible for whatever happens all over the world. It’s purpose is so that the educated are aware to prevent another extremist movement from getting into power in your own country.
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u/Spottedinthewild 9h ago
I wish the US taxpayer didn’t have to fund so many genocides though
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u/Named_after_color 11h ago
Uh yeah but it's bullshit because despite the smart people screaming about how it's fascist, idiots were like "Yeah but we're not targeting the JEWS so everything else is fine"
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u/EdwardOfGreene 10h ago
Never Again is a message that should be shouted from mountain tops until it stops!!!!!
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u/Busack86 9h ago
History repeats,because in every century,we are ruled by the same guys
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u/HolidaySpiriter 8h ago
because in every century,we are ruled by the same guys
No, a better saying would be that every century, we forget the lessons from the previous generations. That's why fascism is on the rise, because those who fought it are all dead.
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u/AlternativePea6203 6h ago
No, it's because certain types of people LIKE fascism and ethno nationalism. It's not about lessons, these people never learn history anyway. It's about recurring attitudes.
The main problem is the tolerance paradox.
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u/HolidaySpiriter 6h ago
No, it's because certain types of people LIKE fascism and ethno nationalism. It's not about lessons, these people never learn history anyway. It's about recurring attitudes.
That wouldn't explain why fascism wasn't a dominant ideology for 70+ years in the same countries that fought during WW2, but now it suddenly is in a lot of Europe.
The main problem is the tolerance paradox.
Part of it is, but even Germany which is one of the most strict countries regarding fascism has allowed a fascist party gain a lot of ground.
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u/LordSwedish 4h ago
The US threw off the brittish royals, but the person who got to design much of the government and economic system was Alexander Hamilton, who loved brittish nobility and hated democracy and the poors.
Hamilton dreamed of a society like the one we currently have, except he'd think the people have a bit too much power still. So really, when it comes to the US anyway, we are actually ruled by the same guys and the general idea hasn't changed since before the revolution.
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u/AlternativePea6203 6h ago
We didn't call it fascism, but it definitely was around. Pogroms existed all throughout the middle ages. Territorial expansionism was the basis of all empires. Ethnic superiority theory has been there since bible times. Thought control/propaganda was the basis of the king's power since Babylonians and Egyptians started carving fake victory stories on walls.
Nothing the Nazis did is new. It was just mechanised, and ruthlessly efficient.
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u/TheKingsdread 8h ago
If they had actually meant the "never again" they would have actually prosecuted the Nazis, not just the worst offenders in Germany, France and a few other european countries but everyone who voluntarily associated or supported them (or was subscribed to their ideology), including people living in the US, Canada, South America, Africa and Australia. People like the members of the Business Plot or Prescott Bush (father to Bush Senior) should have been prosecuted alongside the German War Criminals (and way more German officials who played along and happily looked the other way with the Genocide should have also been prosecuted), if you actually wanted to punish and eradicate the ideology.
But the truth is that the US never cared much about Nazi Ideology as a negative. In fact, if not for Pearl Harbor, I think they would have been happy to let the war in Europe reach its own conclusion, maybe even ally with Hitler if he offered the right incentives, because to the US this was never an idealogical conflict. They only really attacked Germany because Japan who attacked them was allied with Germany. Yes they did previously support Britain due to their historical connections, but Britain was very close to surrender at the time the US entered the War. Had the Japanese just left the US alone, I'd wager we would have seen another outcome in Europe (and that includes the Soviet which also recieved supports from the US in the form of Equipment). Maybe not a total victory for Germany, but potentially a more tense new status quo where Germany kept their conquered territory (Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, parts of France); Vichy France existed, Italy was still facist, maybe Britain and the US electing a facist government eventually.
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u/HardcoreHope 14h ago
It's because the people know it's wrong but won't start peacefully rebelling. We want a high trust society but starting that is hard and involves risk for a lot.
The law of the land is in its people and if we don't stand up for what's going on they will continue to walk all over us.
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 14h ago
They are. Have you heard of No Kings? Seriously, way to write off all the effort of everyone who’s been pushing back against the administration as best they could. That’s not even mentioning Renee Good, Alex Pretti, Keith Porter, and the dozens of others who’ve stood up to ICE and been murdered by them in the past year and a half.
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u/PrimeRob 14h ago
No kidding. The problem is that the peaceful approach isn't working.
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 14h ago
Again, holy fucking blackpill. Change is coming. There’s a blue wave coming in midterms, and Trump is being denied at almost every turn. The amount of corrupt shit that he’s tried doing that’s been blocked because we’re calling him out for it is inspiring. The fact that you’re refusing to see all of it is quite sad.
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u/FrostyIcePrincess 13h ago
I heard so many people say he’d never become president. Then it happened twice.
I have my doubts about the blue wave coming.
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 13h ago
It’s crazy, right? The good news is, he’s been far more brazen about his corruption this time due to his advanced age, and many people who supported him have turned on him for the various gross shit he’s done, mainly the E files.
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u/LiluLay 13h ago
This is maximum cope.
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 13h ago
What a great way to say that I’m right and you’re mad about it. If that wasn’t what you were going for, you could try proving me wrong.
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u/AlternativePea6203 6h ago
Many have not turned against him. And many won't vote. Or won't fight against their own democratic disenfranchisement. It's not as clear cut as you make out.
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u/kent_eh 13h ago
There’s a blue wave coming in midterms,
The midterms that Trump is pulling out all the stops to fuck with? The mid-terms where trump is planning to send ICE to "secure" the voting stations?
Those mid-terms?
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u/elconquistador1985 13h ago
We thought that in 2020 and we ended up with a wet noodle for an AG who did fuck all to prosecute actual fucking terrorists.
Sure... Some shit got blocked in the last few years.
And other shit was met with a sternly worded letter. Congressional Democratic leadership is controlled opposition. Schumer and Jeffries aren't on our side.
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 13h ago edited 13h ago
They did prosecute them. The belligerent tangerine pardoned them. Indeed a miscarriage of justice, but not from the side you’re claiming.
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u/elconquistador1985 13h ago
0 members of Congress were prosecuted.
Trump was allowed to drag everything out as far as possible.
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u/Thewasteland77 13h ago
It only took almost a decade. So maybe don't hate on the people who don't expect "Change." I remember voting for Obama lol
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u/anarchyisutopia 13h ago
A blue wave that will once again do fuck all to be any sort of actual opposition. I can't keep listening to you stupid carousel motherfuckers.
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u/AnRealDinosaur 9h ago
All these people just sitting around, waiting for midterms to fix everything are the reason we're still in this mess. We could have been doing something about it for years now. Instead we need to wait for folks to realize we're beyond voting our way out.
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u/Intelligent-Goat-434 12h ago
No there is no blue wave coming. He will cancel the elections and say it’s because we didn’t vote for the SAVE act. He is adding a third story to the White House for a reason and it ain’t because he is being altruistic for the next president. There will be no next president.
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 12h ago
Ah yes, the 80 year old who subsists on fast food and Diet Coke is going to live forever.
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u/External_End9824 10h ago
Depends on who gets in during a blue wave. Will it be worthless mouth pieces for Israel and American capital or something resembling social democracy? If it’s the former then the agenda will be similar to Trump, it’ll just look less scummy.
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 10h ago
It’s actually looking pretty solid for social democrats. Obviously it’s not gonna break the establishment yet, but Mamdani’s performance in New York has helped build support for people with similar platforms to him. It takes time to dismantle the establishment, but support for Israel is slipping, and Democrats who push to support Israel are rapidly falling out of favour in polls.
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u/ShiftAltRight 10h ago
Not an American so IDK how much my opinion is worth. And I genuinely don't want to discount any effort that people are making towards this by protests etc.
But the reality is that you guys do not represent the majority of America. The whole world laughed when he first ran for president and then you guys went and elected him. Then when he fucked you guys over and killed millions because of his amazing Covid response, y'all elected him again.
Maybe it's just my ignorance as a non-American here. But if rape, pedophilia, and other criminal activity wasn't enough to stop the majority of Americans from doing anything about him (IMO anyone that didn't vote was essentially saying they were okay with it), what's the trigger that makes enough Americans give a shit this time?
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 10h ago
Except they do represent a majority. The reason America seems so Conservative is because of the electoral college, which makes people from smaller states functionally have a more important vote, because each state gets 2 senators. Also a majority of Americans just don’t vote, which is like, one of if not the biggest contributor to the issue. It’s not as bad as it seems m8.
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u/ShiftAltRight 10h ago
Except they do represent a majority.
Also a majority of Americans just don’t vote, which is like, one of if not the biggest contributor to the issue.
These two kind of seem contradictory though? Like I said if you don't vote you're essentially fine with him.
I guess I should phrase it better - the majority of Americans don't mind Trump. He won the popular vote of the people that bothered going out to vote. The others didn't vote at all which, again, just says that they were fine with a Trump presidency too.
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 10h ago
This also isn’t true. People obviously can’t vote after the election to show that they didn’t want Trump, but you can see in polls that his approval rating has fallen below 30% at several points throughout his current administration. The third who didn’t vote are a good portion of the 70%, and a good chunk of that is also his own voters, though I don’t have a number for you on how much of the 70% is his own voters.
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u/ShiftAltRight 10h ago
He was at 34% when he left office after his first term. Sure, he lost the next election - but then Americans voted him right back in after Biden.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/328637/last-trump-job-approval-average-record-low.aspx
Besides, I'm pretty sure that conservatives vote similarly all over the world, i.e. they'll usually vote for their party no matter how often they get screwed by them. So his 30% approval isn't too important to his base. Maybe for undecided voters. Then again I have no idea how anyone was undecided between a rapist conman and a dark woman who laughed funny but here we are.
I hope I'm wrong about all of this and Americans actually have a line somewhere in the sand and the majority does something once that line is crossed. At the end of the day his tantrums are fucking over the rest of the world too. I just honestly can't think of what that line would be. Best wishes to you guys!
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u/TheOtherOtherLuke 10h ago
Oh, that’s just it though. It’s been below 30%, which means even a lot of the people who voted for him can’t stand him anymore. With any luck, midterms will go well.
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u/kent_eh 13h ago
Have you heard of No Kings?
That 1 day event that has happened only twice in 18 months?
That's a lot more days not protesting than it is taking action.
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u/jflagators 8h ago
I live in a real red state and there have been no kings protests way more than twice in the last 18 months. But we literally can't afford to protest every single day. If we don't work we don't eat. If we lose our jobs for not showing up to protest we're not getting unemployment. And a lot of people here have internalized the propaganda. I've been trying to warn my parents about how bad Trump and the Republicans are for a decade now but I can't get through the Fox News they watch every night. Many of us are frustrated yet powerless to fix it. I'm genuinely sorry for the way this administration has been doing to your country though, regardless of where it is. Those of us that can tell right from wrong are trying to fix it. But it will take time.
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u/ouroborosstruggles 13h ago
What were the protests demands?
End to ICE? Imprison Trump? Remuneration for 2008? Or Dare I say 1865?
The million man march scared them, and when they planned to do it again and not leave, they shot him. The fact that No Kings had the most numbers ever but neither created or linked substantive change is something that needs to be examined if change is the goal
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u/HardcoreHope 13h ago
Who was it paid for? Has it helped anyone? What's the point of a rebellion if the enemy knows it ends in a few hours or days.
How does that make them feel the same stress we wake up with everything single day?
We need ride or die people outside the white house until people are held accountable. Not a fun activity on a Saturday.
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u/turtlebro5 9h ago
I’m the complete opposite of a violent person but I sometimes wonder about the “violence might be the only way” idea.
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u/HardcoreHope 7h ago
MLK has a good quote about that. I just don't want it to be our starting point.
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u/TheNotoriousCBD 3h ago
That's the only viable option to overturn tyranny. 99% of people are not willing to pay that price though
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u/ouroborosstruggles 13h ago
Peacefully?*
You're a good person
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u/HardcoreHope 13h ago
They keep saying if we rebelled it will be bloody. If someone firing the first shot. It shouldn't be us.
We can hurt their agenda without hurting people. I'd rather peaceful than the other.
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u/LiluLay 13h ago
They already fired the first shot. And the second. And the third. And the fourth. And… how many people has ICE brazenly killed on the street in broad daylight now? And how many are being raped, assaulted, beaten, and murdered behind closed doors in the facilities they don’t let anyone into?
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u/ouroborosstruggles 13h ago
This. I mean, if we go further, how many people did Luigi save by postponing AI case approval?
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u/HardcoreHope 12h ago
You want to fight fire with fire be my guest. People don't even want to stop working for the system you just described because the risk of losing the light we have. You think they will fight a gorilla war?
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u/Noctisvah 11h ago
Bullshite. The nazis took a lot of notes on how to segregate and oppress certain people by copying the “traditional customs” of the USA.
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u/Betray-Julia 14h ago
“Never? Again!”
Also neat, this would have been a time where that weird semi colon question mark actually would have been useful.
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u/soul_in_a_fishbowl 12h ago
Yes enforcing immigration laws is basically another holocaust. Just imagine the horrors of having to actually abide by the laws of the country in which you chose to live.
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u/darglor 11h ago
That’d be a cogent argument if it wasn’t completely misrepresenting what’s actually happening.
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u/SimplyAmazedPanda 11h ago
Every time ICE illegally detains someone, because they suspect them of being illegal, they are violating the law of the land, otherwise known as the Constitution.
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u/neinhaltchad 9h ago
We’re merely “enforcing our immigration” laws by setting lose masked pardoned J6’ers to terrorize, mace and gang tackle children and grandmothers.
Also by murdering citizens who get in the way.
Of course, if this all requires the use of literal concentration camps like alligator Alcatraz, oh well.
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u/OvulatingScrotum 13h ago
I’ve seen some Zionist saying “‘never again’ is not universal.”
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u/TheOuts1der 13h ago
Yeah it's so interesting. The Zionist and anti-Zionist take on "Never again" are so different.
The anti-Zionists say "Never again...will we allow genocide to happen to anyone, anywhere." It is a fundamentally pacifist statement.
The Zionists say "Never again....will Jews passively allow themselves to be subjugated". It was intended as a militant call to arms by extreme right-wing Zionist activists.
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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck 14h ago
Your target audience is below the reading level of Anne Frank
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u/TheFrenchSavage 13h ago
If they could read...they would side with the nazis.
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u/Bill_Brasky_SOB 13h ago
They watch the beginning of Saving Private Ryan...
... and root for the guys up on the Normandy cliffs.
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u/Electrical-Feed-3991 12h ago
To be frank, the majority of US 13 year olds are below the reading/writing level of Anne Frank
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u/butwhywedothis 14h ago
And yet you can’t call them Nazis cause it hurts their feelings.
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u/Existing-Doughnut-60 14h ago
Meanwhile on the other side of the world we are supporting genocide. Truly heartbreaking
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u/CyclistPHL 3h ago
And help the colonizing country do it, under the guise of protecting themselves. It blew me away to hear Zionists talk about Palestinians. They were using words and thoughts similar to what the nazis did. It's revolting.
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u/throwawayrefiguy 14h ago
We shouldn't stop at calling them Nazis.
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u/Club_Penguin_Legend_ 13h ago
Yes you should because Fascist is the proper word. You cant just call someone something because that word is something you dont like.
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u/SiliconAutomaton 12h ago
THANK YOU!
Please don’t misuse Nazi until it gets the “literally also means figuratively now” treatment. That feels a lot like Holocaust denial to me.
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u/Mean_Veterinarian688 14h ago
moreso that if you have then when something like charlie kirks murder becomes justification for stifling free speech on the left because the nazi “accusations” are what led to it in their eyes
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u/Bobby_Globule 14h ago
Screwed in with those unscrewable screws.
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u/AwDuck 14h ago
I first thought this was just some 3d printed sign and thought it could be torn off with a little bit of force. Your attention to that detail made me zoom in and I saw it’s a proper metal sign with retro reflective lettering and all. This is some dedication right here.
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u/Bobby_Globule 13h ago
I bet when they installed it, they dressed up like workers, the bright vest, hard hat, tool belt etc...act like you belong
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u/PlasticFrosty5340 13h ago
I’d like to see the back though. Angle grinder to the bolt. Used to install road signs for the county lol
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u/z8_GND_5296 13h ago
Crazy, a sign in Philly that doesn't have markers and stickers slapped all over it.
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u/CyclistPHL 3h ago
I'm part Italian descent. I'm amazed at the number of Italian MAGAts in the US. I've said it many times, if this was 100 years ago, we, and Asian people would be the targets. They don't like that because "we came here legally". They're so frigging stupid that they don't realize that so many of ICE's targets have to. But, more importantly, my family landed sometime in the 1870s. There really was no such thing as illegal immigration then. There were laws at the time of my famiy's landing, but they were to restrict "undesirables". It was 1888 when there was an act to limit Chinese people from coming here. We used them to build our railrorads and then there "too many" coming, so we put a stop to it.
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u/ThumpTacks 11h ago
This is so, so sad and dark to see in America. I mean, it’s terrible to see anywhere, but especially here.
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u/jjklines1 9h ago
For the longest time we knew America was ran by it's government but the "people" still had a say. Now it's more apparent than ever how much control the rich and politicians have.
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u/J8YDG9RTT8N2TG74YS7A 4h ago
What's happening in America makes sense if you've studied history.
Look up "the business plot". In 1933 several very rich people tried to take control of the American government.
This isn't a conspiracy theory. This is what has happened.
They have now succeeded where this previous plot failed.
They have spent years buying up all the media platforms and installing their own people in positions of power, controlling the companies that control the media.
They have bankrolled Republican politicians and control the party. Step out of line and they will have their billionaire friends who own the media support the other candidate.
They have stacked the courts with loyalists to support their agenda.
Billionaires put Trump into office to increase their wealth, and it worked on a massive scale. Musk alone made hundreds of billions.
It's unlikely America will ever recover from this, because those same billionaires who own most of the media will just switch out Trump for their next scapegoat and carry on regardless.
They don't care who is figurehead, as long as their agenda is implemented.
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u/kakenasty 10h ago
This exact sign needs to be everywhere. Make sure everyone sees it and has to confront that reality as they’re walking along
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u/TheYellowFringe 10h ago
I agree with the sign's statement.
Once Trump is gone and the MAGA supporters deny ever being association to him. There will be stories and recollections about this time and the horrors of what they did.
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u/trystanthorne 8h ago
The people complaining about immigrants are the same ones saying Nazis weren't that bad.
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u/HopefulLocksmith2600 13h ago
FFS, you people have no clue about what Nazi Germany was truly like. Stop trivializing Anne Frank and what she went through with this persecution fetish bullshit.
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u/MyWifeCucksMe 7h ago
It's funny with you Nazis, you always scream "this is nothing like Nazi Germany in 1945", but "forget" that Nazi Germany existed for 12 years, and insist that if something isn't 100% exactly like Nazi Germany in 1945 specifically, then it's wrong to compare that something to Nazi Germany.
Tell me, oh wise Nazi, how does the current day USA compare to Nazi Germany in 1933?
Do you think that Nazi Germany in 1933 was perfectly fine and nothing to be worried about?
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u/priscosaurus 11h ago
My grandmother has been a U.S. citizen for decades and is terrified of leaving her home because of how many citizens have been taken for hours or days at a time and then dropped off somewhere else. Being detained for that long would kill her from the stress or the lack of medicine. She has children and grandchildren who have served in the U.S. military and now will avoid important medical appointments at the age of 84. She remembers a time when she would skip meals to feed her kids and we worked hard to get to a place where we could afford to travel. Before this I had the honor of taking her to England, Spain, and Italy, but now she is worried about Customs, so she will spend the last years of her life hiding in fear. YOU have no clue, so don’t come in here pretending like you would have cared about Anne Frank either.
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u/NocturnalMJ 12h ago edited 19m ago
There are people who have gone in hiding, people who have been forcibly taken from their homes, separated from family and loved ones, and sent to inhumane camps by ICE. Nazi Germany didn't go from 1-100 in one night, either. I think it's a fair comparison to make.
Edit: I am not open to debate basic human decency and rights with people. There is a huge difference between hunting people down and having a humane immigration policy, which includes deportation with dignity. If you don't know or care for the difference, that's on you.
2nd Edit: It's cute how people think the persecution of Jewish folks started with genocide in WW2 rather than labour camps and unlawful imprisonment long before it escalated to the gas chambers. People hid well before the death camps back then, too.
Most of the people getting hunted down and arrested + detained by ICE have never harmed anyone, and ICE has been known to hold American citizens hostage for the mere "crime" of not looking "American" enough. They have no qualms arresting little kids from school and using them to get to the kids' parents. They have shot and killed people unlawfully for merely being present and lied about it. They endanger every living person in the areas they're operating in. For what? ICE is incredibly inhumane, amoral, and excessively violent. They disrupt far more peace than illegal immigrants have ever done. It's beyond disproportionate to the so-called "crimes" defenders of ICE claim that these immigration folks have committed.
That is before considering how the Trump admin and MAGA is hostile towards any other minority group, too. Guess who else was? Right, Nazi Germany. They killed millions of people with disability, too, most notably in their Am Spiegelgrund clinic where they "euthanised" handicapped children. You think that didn't start with othering them first, too? Like all those antivaxx claims causing autism and the like? 🙄
The Nazis looted and burned everything in the German Institute of Sexology, too. An institute that was way ahead of its time on research and advocated for gay rights in the 1930s. As part of the Nazi's censoring campaign because they hated different, hated LGBT+, and looooved burning books. Many common themes among hateful little asshats who deserve a good wallop over the head with some goddamn history books.
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u/Triangle1619 11h ago
Sometimes I wonder why in America the left seems to perpetually lose, then I see stuff like this and I understand. It’s obvious why people aren’t buying what you’re selling, this is just delusion. Pure persecution fetish.
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u/Braelind 10h ago
What? Everything he posted is literally facts that you can easily Google.
Edit: dammit, tricked by another bot!
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u/HighburyOnStrand 8h ago
I am dead on balls certain that Anne Frank and all her peers would have very much appreciated people speaking up for them earlier than they did, and in greater numbers. Production scale death camps is neither the moral, nor the practical, part in the play where standing up is the right move.
That time has long since passed. People are getting shot in the streets and the authorities are lying to our faces about it, over and over.
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u/RoadSmash 8h ago
No one's trivializing anything it's a warning about what will happen if good people don't stand up. Nazi Germany was not a one off that can never happen again. Don't be so naive
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u/helplesssigma 13h ago
Oof you've stepped out of line now, get ready for a bunch of blue arrows.
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u/HopefulLocksmith2600 13h ago
Yeah, I'm just waiting for everyone to tell me to kms, or call me ghastly names.
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u/dickcheesess 4h ago
Yeah, I'm just waiting for everyone to tell me to kms, or call me ghastly names.
Is this what they call "persecution fetish"?
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u/lo0tDel1very 9h ago edited 9h ago
I was scrolling through all of the comments thinking "surely someone here isn't too chronically online and outrage-addicted to understand the flaws in this"
Here you are, cheers.
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u/RoadSmash 8h ago
Oh right i forgot we were supposed to wait until the us starts mass gasing people before taking a stand and trying to stop fascism from running people's lives.
What an incredibly naive comment.
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u/HomeboddE 14h ago
Somewhere in Palestine a little girl is shivering in the corner as she watches a genocide unfold
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u/Atherum 12h ago
"Children are dying." Lull nodded. "That's a succinct summary of humankind, I'd say. Who needs tomes and volumes of history? Children are dying. The injustices of the world hide in those three words."
-Steven Erikson - Deadhouse Gates.
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u/Militant_Monk 3h ago
Something I did not expect to land on in my 'Game of Life' run was building Anne Frank rooms, yes, plural. I hope my neighbors sleep easier knowing they have them, but I hope they never have to be used.
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u/BlackFlag187 13h ago
Anne Frank was German, residing in the Netherlands, which was then invaded by Germany who sought to exterminate her in a death camp. This is not the same situation and I know I’ll be downvoted but, this is not the message you want to convey. You want hope and peace for the people of the world, but borders matter and so do laws. The system is slow for a reason. Ask your politicians why we are spending so much in the Middle East when South America has needed REAL help for a century. Make AMERICA great, north and south.
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u/Riley_ 10h ago
People are dying in ICE concentration camps and the US has invaded multiple countries this year.
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u/ZeroGKills 13h ago
As a Jewish person, I find this extremely offensive. My people’s genocide is not yours to virtue signal.
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u/excaliburxvii 1h ago
Why is it always framed as if only the Jews were genocided by the Nazis?
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u/Firecracker048 15m ago
They were the primary victims by the widest Margin.
But please keep up the skinhead arguements
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u/mrtrololo27 12h ago
As a direct descendant of jews murdered in the Shoa and a student of history, this is not at all offensive. ICE and those who support their terrorism is offensive. To ignore the direct parallels to pre war nazi Germany that evidently inspire this regime (notably Trump and Miller by their own admission) is ignorant, dangerous, and offensive to the people currently terrorized by ice. This is not virtue signaling. Never again means we don't let this shit happen again to Jews or any people. We need to stop this before it escalates further.
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u/Zerowantuthri 10h ago
This is excellent commentary. Really hits hard (well...it hits hard to those with an education which I doubt most MAGA have...this will sail right over their collective heads).
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u/Silent-Inspection101 13h ago
Comparing ice to nazis is disrespectful to people who lived under actual nazis. It’s not that bad
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u/Tantle18 13h ago
If you’re comparing the holocaust to ICE you’re as equally as big of a piece of shit as everything you say you are against.
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u/Justgotbannedlol 9h ago
Equally lmao
Yeah man I bet OP just went out and gunned down unarmed brown people in the street in front of their families right after posting this, sure thing
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u/InfiniteBusiness0 4h ago
People who making a debatably inaccurate comparisons are as big a piece of shit as ICE executing unarmed civilians on the streets?
Weird that people get so bend out of shape about messaging.
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u/Big-Occasion-5264 9h ago
The sign doesn't even say that, but it's interesting that's where your mind knew this was going.
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u/mopar-or-no_car 10h ago
The left are fucking morons, they're comparing people being burned, cremated alive, gas chambers, ungodly experiments, torture, rape and beatings, to being arrested and detained for breaking the law, I'll never understand how people think it's okay to break the law, then comparing genocide to arrest or detainment.
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u/fatcuntwrestler 5h ago
Is this post in relation to arrests by ICE, or to murders by ICE? How many murders by ICE are acceptable for you?
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u/SimplyAmazedPanda 14h ago
ICE are Nazis!
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u/Historical_Cap7714 14h ago
How so
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u/NotBreadyy 14h ago
Let's just think for a second here, alright?
Masked guys going "Make America Great Again" by shooting and killing innocent people, and attacking bystanders if they complain about this.
I'm sure the nazis wanted to make germany great again too, and they sure as hell shot people who disagreed with them
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u/nkfallout 13h ago
The Nazi's killed 17 million people. ICE has killed what 20 people?
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u/SimplyAmazedPanda 12h ago
Even though you’re number is low, I feel it is still appropriate to put “so far” at the end of your second sentence.
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u/heyinternetman 14h ago
This is AI isn’t it
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u/Useful-Tax2470 14h ago
It is not! Philly resident here (check the post history if you must) and can confirm this sort of messaging is all over the city
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u/Jiminy_Cricket12 13h ago
while I fully believe this type of message is over philly, this specific post screams AI. the way the words look so clean and the text is so uniform...
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u/NotBreadyy 14h ago
I wonder how ICE is gonna react if THEY get shot at for no reason, and just getting attacked by masked men..
Oh, wait, that's called terrorists.
Odd, isn't it?
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u/darkslide3000 6h ago
This hits so hard because it's almost certainly actually true. It's not an exaggeration or disagreement about the meaning of terminology. Even if you don't believe this is fascism, you can't seriously deny that this is the actual lived experience for many people in the country.
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u/No_Photographs609 3h ago
My friend is afraid to travel because they're paranoid about being detained by ICE. Born in the US, but still afraid of being illegally detained because they're half Hispanic.
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u/zerbey 12h ago
I hope that little girl doesn't suffer the same fate as a certain other girl who wrote in an attic about oppression.
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u/Accomplished-Use213 9h ago
Wow, that is a statement. I wish more people understood it. We promised the World Never Again, yet we are the ones condemning the innocent.
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u/undreamedgore 12h ago
And if she's caught, she'll be made to leave ans go back to her home country. Which apparently is as bad as a concentration camp.
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u/JSmith666 7h ago
Dont forget it the immigration law was in place the entire time she was alive and wasnt made after the fact of her being here
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