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u/Kunikunatu 4h ago
Tuesday 8pm or so from the roof of my building. Today was absolute insanity in the news. Right here in NYC the twin towers were leveled. Some terrorist group, not known yet who, hijacked four planes. 2 of them kamakased [sic] into each tower, the towers collapsed 1 & 2. WTC 7(?) also burned up. Of course the passenger on board were sacrificed. An estimate of 40,000 people work in the trade center. 4 yrs ago, I worked on FL 10 of the trade center, and ate on floor 42 or so. Not everyone survived. I left work around noon, and walked from Time Sq. to the apts. There are helicopters flying around the city, which was shut down today. The 3rd plane hit the pentagon. The 4th, I believe was shot down in W, Pennsylvania. All 4 had full tanks, making the planes a flying bomb. The trade center is all glass & metal, not a brick exterior. A crazy day, that is was indeed.
Transcript since it is a bit hard to read. There are some spelling mistakes.
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u/DiligentGuitar246 6h ago
How old was he then?
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u/rkddbbdj 6h ago
Early 30s
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u/Carra144 5h ago
He literally writes "4 years ago I worked on Floor 10 of the WTC...", you thought a 6 year old was clocking in and filing his TPS reports?
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u/hamfist_ofthenorth 3h ago edited 3h ago
Hahaha, yeah. It's just that, we need the new cover sheets on all the TPS reports before they go out, mkay?
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u/loves_to_splooge_8 1h ago edited 1h ago
Why does he have the handwriting of a 5 year old
Edit: lmao
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u/ThatBankTeller 1h ago
Looks closer to a physicians handwriting to me. My mom’s a urologist and writes almost just like this.
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u/komandantmirko 1h ago
Its a common male trait. It happens because boys develop good hand eye coordination a bit later in childhood than girls. So when we're learning to write, we can only do chicken scratches, and then you basically lock that in with very little improvement later in life.
If boys were to learn writing a bit later, after like the age of 7-8, this wouldnt happen. If you look at any old historic handwriting, you can see men's writing was prettier. Thats because they were much older when they learned than kids are now
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u/shogunzek 41m ago
Looks just like my handwriting, except I write in all caps, something I picked up as a kid from my grandfather who was in the Navy. 34 years old here.
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u/topekatums 10m ago
so whats my excuse? as a woman with awful handwriting
https://giphy.com/gifs/lGBecpB2dIMwt6ohfI1
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u/kemmicort 22m ago
Yeah I remember trying to copy the other kids’ handwriting who got commended by the teacher - it was always the girls who had the “best” handwriting at that age. Crazy to think we spent years of our school careers just working on the aesthetics of squiggly lines by repetitively writing each letter again and again. We could’ve at least been re writing something interesting, thought provoking, a short story or poems.
I also remember our teachers lied and told us that we HAD TO LEARN GOOD CURSIVE because we would fail junior high and high school if we didn’t, and never get a job if we couldn’t write nice cursive.
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u/Bl4ck_Fl4m3s 4h ago edited 1h ago
He's writing diary in his 30s? Is that normal?
I thought writing a diary is something you tell your child to do so you have a log of their activities to check out if they did something bad they don't tell you about.
Edit: Alright, so after like 15-20 replies and the 950 downvotes my initial assumption seems to be contrary to public consensus here.
Thanks for letting me know more about diaries, won't write one myself but after looking it up more apparently just the act of writing something down can have an effect on the writer.
When I first wrote this comment I didn't knew that and thought writing a book that has no intended readers is a waste of time, as I thought the only function of a book is to be read. So I thought any rational adult won't do this but children might generate useful logs that way, only time I heard about diaries was in this context many years ago from a relative I believe. A diary was just an obvious trick for gullible children for me up until today.
Since this is all I knew about diaries my question was genuine, but I now know writing a diary can have different reasons.
Edit 2: this is my first time getting 1k downvotes, even more than OPs post has upvotes. I feel like this should be worth an achievement.
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u/chipskylark123 4h ago
Damn, this actually made me sad as hell.
You sound miserable, homie. You should journal about it.
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u/OldManEnglishTeacher 3h ago
He can’t journal it, the flames would burn the paper. Oh, sorry…the Fl4m3s would burn the paper.
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u/TheHumanoidTyphoon69 4h ago
I keep journals (plural) for different things but Im slightly confused at the common knowledge of total planes highjacked the day of, I didnt think that was disclosed for a bit? Anyone have the articles from back then? I was just in middle school, but somehow we all had tvs rolled in to show us
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u/kawaiibakanekodomo 3h ago
it was widely known and reported to be four by 11 a.m.
there was a lot of uncertainty that morning but by noon the understanding was that it was over: airspace was empty and no more reports had come in.
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u/ZarathustraGlobulus 3h ago edited 3h ago
This article is from the evening of 9/11. Giuliani (of Four Seasons Total Landscaping fame) is quoted and the four planes stat appears in the same paragraph:
Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said at around 10:30 p.m. that outside of the airplane passenger deaths, there were six confirmed fatalities in New York, "and tragically there are going to be a lot more than that, but that's what we know of at this point." In all, 266 people perished in the four planes that were hijacked, including one that went down in Pennsylvania, with its apparently intended target being Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland.
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u/Notarobot_probably 2h ago
It was disclosed quite early on. Moreover, what would have been the alternative explanation? That random United and American Airlines pilots decided to do this?
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u/TheHumanoidTyphoon69 1h ago
You already know what the other explainition is, oh there lying to you to start a war with a country that has nuclear capabilities maybe possibly someday kinda? /s
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u/Bajovane 1h ago edited 1h ago
Oh, we knew. Trust me. We also know that they may have boarded other planes but an opportunity to take it over didn’t come as all the flights in the air were grounded at the nearest airport.
That day will live in our memories (provided we were old enough to remember that day vividly.)
I read a book about the flights that were coming in from Europe were diverted to Newfoundland Canada. The local people welcomed the people with open arms and helped them get shelter, food, and anything else they needed. It was a beautiful experience given the circumstances.
Today, I can no longer go over the videos that were recorded by so many people about that horrible day. It makes me sad that we are so deeply divided today. I do hope we can pull together before it’s too late, but it is very difficult for me to imagine. I just don’t think we can ever be united like that ever again. 😞
Edit to add: and yes, I know that Middle Eastern people were discriminated against and some were arrested just for being from that region. People were suspicious of anyone who looked like a “terrorists “ even if they were citizens born and bred. That was wrong!!!
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u/procrastinatorsuprem 57m ago
You should watch "Come from Away." It tells the story of people landing in Gander.
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u/1mn0tcr3at1v3 4h ago
Concepts like this is exactly why men have have such trouble sharing their feelings. We should normalize people having diaries, it's a good way to get your thoughts out.
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u/ShadowKiwi98 4h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/bmAtIwmYTHnwBy0d6W
This is why men are silent about their feelings and thoughts because of clowns like you.
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u/burr_redding 4h ago
It’s normal to have a diary at every age but it’s not for everyone. I don’t feel a thing by writing my thoughts on a paper either but most people can feel better when do it.
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u/JoanneDoesStuff 3h ago
You do know that many authors, scientists, and ordinary people kept diaries for large parts of their lives, right ?
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u/flamingobingobongo 3h ago
i’m so sorry you were lead to that belief 😭 this is basically what my mom thought a diary/journal was all about too. that’s why i will never open or read my kids’ journals.
it made me feel awful, like i had no privacy, and it’s fcked me up permanently. (at least permanently so far, but i’m only in my 30s, so perhaps there’s hope for me yet.) I just started journaling daily again a few months ago for the health benefits, and i’m so so paranoid about leaving it out in view.. i’m due to fill up the last page of my composition book today, so then i can burn it.. even thought I’m like 97% sure my husband wouldn’t try to find/read it, i’m so used to not being able to trust anyone to not read my journal that i get so damn anxious about it.. even been considering using loose leaf paper this time around so i can burn it that day (like i always do with my more shame filled entries 🫣)
tl;dr: journaling can be incredibly helpful, especially* as an adult!
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u/Bajovane 1h ago
Wow! I am sorry that your Mom invaded your privacy like that. She was definitely wrong to go through that and then confront you about what you wrote!!! That is all sorts of WRONG!!!
(((((Hugs)))))
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u/Bl4ck_Fl4m3s 1h ago
Yeah your mom's behavior is basically how I first heard about diaries many years ago from a relative. And I thought why write a diary and potentially self sabotage if I can just not do that.
So yeah apparently there is more to this than I knew. A diary was just an obvious trick for gullible children for me since today
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u/and_twice_on_sunday 1h ago
Just wanna say, I love your edit. I have nothing but respect for people who are willing to learn new things. Kudos!
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u/LastManBrandon 1h ago
"I thought writing a diary is something you tell your child to do so you have a log of their activities to check out if they did something bad they don't tell you about." -bro there's no way you thought this was the primary use of writing thoughts down lmao.
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u/zinornia 2h ago
journalling is actually something they say 'all successful people do' something like 30 mins in the morning is recommended.
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u/girlspit 1h ago
Leave it to the internet to gloriously dogpile someone for asking an honest question 😂😂😂🥴 To get bullied online for not understanding something without anyone having any context about your upbringing (aside from the pretty sad anecdote about what you thought diaries were for) is exactly why the internet is such a weird mix of fascinating and depressing.
You’re taking the vitriol in stride. I saw you mention you’re in your early 20s, so don’t let a bunch of faceless weirdos (and the inevitable pile on crowd that follows the misery) convince you that asking questions is something to be embarrassed about. You learned something, admitted you were wrong, and moved on. That’s a lot healthier than doubling down out of pride.
…although now that I’m typing this, I’m realizing you’re probably handling it better than I would because you grew up in the social media era 😂😂😂 I think I’m more offended on your behalf than you are.
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u/Bl4ck_Fl4m3s 1h ago
I didn't learn anything about diaries in school so how am I supposed to know all of this if not by asking questions? I just didn't know it was a thing is all.
To get bullied online
Thanks but this doesn't even come close to bullying, I'm not offended at all, this is just... a nice Friday afternoon. I've still got all kinds of work to do today, going to be busy soon.
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u/girlspit 56m ago
Hahaha fair enough. Maybe bullied was a little dramatic on my part 😅😂 I think I was projecting because Reddit has a habit of turning “you were wrong” into “you must be an idiot.”
Also, as someone in my mid 30s who has had to unlearn a few…weird things that the adults around me normalized while they were in survival mode, I think I felt like I needed to stand up for you a bit.
For what it’s worth, like I said before I respect that you didn’t double down. You asked a question, realized your assumption was off, owned it, and kept it moving. The internet could use about 10 million more people who react like that.
Have a Good Friday, man. Hopefully your next Reddit achievement is 1k upvotes instead 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽
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u/Shadow_Sable 15m ago
I think you believe yourself to be far more intelligent than you actually are.
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u/Which_Material_3100 2m ago
An upvote from me for wading back in and discussing it more. Kudos! Sorry to possibly ruin your possible Reddit downvote record though! That is impressive
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u/Bernbiz 3h ago
Eat shit and dont have kids
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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 2h ago
this is a /r/redditmoment if I ever seen one, especially consdering it is actually getting upvoted. What fucking age or maturity level are the people here lol
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u/Bl4ck_Fl4m3s 1h ago
I didn't know people had such strong opinions about diaries, I was just asking questions, chill out.
To make a child I'd need a woman in my life, which turns out is the hard part. Not that I've tried, I just realized I never approached a woman out of romantic interest, but for them to be a friend / teammate in various shooter- & horror games
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u/Void-kun 1h ago
This just sounds like a toxic masculinity trait.
This is one of the first things a psychologist will suggest you to do if you have any sort of mental health issues.
It's healthy to get thoughts out of your head rather than bottling them in.
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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 2h ago
Was this comment brigaded? It has more downvotes than the post has upvotes.
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u/Bl4ck_Fl4m3s 2h ago
Damn I didn't even notice. Did my comment attract all the diary users of reddit?
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u/SquashSouffle 7h ago
Post this in the 9/11 archive sub
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u/spudddly 4h ago edited 1h ago
It doesn't say anything of any note though?
Edit: Gotta love downvotes from redditors who know absolutely nothing about what's considered a valuable historical record.
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u/rkddbbdj 7h ago
He was also at the windows of the world restaurant a few weeks before the attack
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u/Fox_Hawk 1h ago
Yeah a close family member was at a meeting in the towers a few weeks before. It was meant to be around 9/11 but got rescheduled due to people being out of the country.
A million people must have stories like that but it definitely lead to a lot of hugs and "fuck I could have wound up raising your kids."
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u/nomad5926 1h ago
Dude my friend's mom worked there and she was late for work because she missed her train leaving our town, so had to wait for the next one. She was all upset she was going to be late..... then she was much less upset about the timing.
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u/procrastinatorsuprem 52m ago
My bil worked there every Tuesday. He flew down from Boston. He was not there that day because he wanted to take my kids to an event so he took that week as his vacation week.
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u/Salty-Fishman 49m ago
I was originally scheduled to have a lunch meeting at paine webber that day. It got canceled before that but I could have been there that day.
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u/rkddbbdj 6h ago
One a couple days after
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u/HalfSoul30 4h ago
Good guy, remained skeptical and didn't take the government's word at face value.
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u/infield_fly_rule 2h ago
As someone of a certain age, I can confidently say that was the day everything in America changed.
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u/IamBeyondAwesome 1h ago
Everything!
And one of the good things was that in the days following, noone was a Democrat or a Republican, we were just Americans that came together to love, mourn, and heal while supporting one another.
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u/infield_fly_rule 1h ago
Before 9/11 most people had no real idea whether their friends were D or R
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u/Dennyisthepisslord 3h ago
There's some interesting stuff around of the days after like radio call in shows of Opie and Anthony and Ron and fez where you get a feeling for the mood. It wasn't all somber. There was ANGER, fear, confusion, loss, pride determination to help and many more feelings all doing the rounds and every few years I listen to them.
It's a good reminder during current events not to demand instant response as day 2 people were asking why there wasn't bombing taking place. It's hard to imagine their reaction if they found out what a disaster the wars coming would be and it would take 10 years to get Bin Laden
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u/thatredlad 3h ago
Imagine how badly it would be handled if it happened with today's administration. I'm not saying GWB did a great job by any measure, but it was handled better than whatever the hell is going on now in the same region.
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u/Dennyisthepisslord 3h ago
I mean everyone thought Rudy Giuliani did an amazing job..and a lot of people were willing Bush to be a leader but were uninspired by his speeches in the days after.. imagine a trump rambling address 🤣
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u/slapnowski 2h ago
I mean Trump is on the record shortly after the attacks bragging about his tower now being the tallest. Which is obviously tone deaf but also not true. So yeah, it would have been horrendous.
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u/ErenYeagermeist3r 1h ago
Which is obviously tone deaf but also not true.
He also said he saw thousands of Muslims in Jersey City (directly across the water from downtown Manhattan) celebrating in the streets on 9/11. Which - in case it needs to be said - is a complete fucking lie.
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u/ShotFromGuns 30m ago
For a couple hundred thousand dead Iraqi civilians and ongoing degradation of civil rights value of "better," I guess.
I don't know if you actually lived through this while being old enough to understand what was happening, but GW, his administration, and Congress did almost nothing right. It was a fucking nightmare. We got a war against people who hadn't attacked us, with massive civilian casualties, which destabilized the region and radicalized even more people against us. We got the PATRIOT act that only like one person voted against (my senator, Russ Feingold, who them got replaced with a shitty libertarian asshole we're still trying to pry out 20 years later). We got Homeland Security and TSA. We got extraordinary rendition and Gitmo. Waterboarding and Abu Ghraib. On and on and on.
I get that it looks "better" against the backdrop of the most corrupt presidency our country has ever seen. But don't you dare rehabilitate GW Bush. His presidency was the worst we'd had to that point, by far, and it absolutely paved the way for Trump.
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u/thatredlad 13m ago
In no way did I rehabilitate him, for one thing. I also live on the other side of the world and only really had media coverage to go on while I was in the tail end of high school. These days, though, I try to stay on top of the biggest talking points coming out of your country, but the batshit insanity is so constant that it's hard to hang on.
In any sense, I didn't intend to undermine the damage done by the Bush administration, only to use it as a measuring stick in an "if you think that was bad..." contrast with the current state of affairs.
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u/Meme_Pope 1h ago
Anthony Cumia calling for the Middle East to be bombed like 12 minutes after is the most Anthony Cumia thing of all time
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u/Ok-Influence-2650 1h ago
The Howard Stern show was live during the attacks. They namedrop bin Laden pretty quickly, and are out for blood before there was even confirmation. https://youtu.be/hLNPIdiAx2w?is=lPTW_4q2Rqtty9Z9
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u/urbanmember 5h ago edited 3h ago
I gotta say:
I miss the time when not everyone instantly jumped to a billion conclusions about a million different conspiracy theories everytime something bad happens.
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u/bachmensch 5h ago edited 5h ago
I miss the times, when people didn’t instantly jump to a billion conclusions and a million conspiracy theories, everytime something happens.
Dunno how anyone could downvote you. I also miss those times.
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u/Bajovane 1h ago
So do I. While we had our problems, we were still decent enough to each other and may disagree about policy, but we were still able to come together for the greater good.
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u/mysterypeeps 3h ago
It makes me wonder how we’d respond to an event like this these days.
I imagine half of the country would be screaming at the other half before the smoke even cleared. The “sense of unity” would never materialize (I know many were excluded from it, but it is a common sentiment of the days immediately following). The “truthers” would quickly have a foothold that includes representatives in Congress, no matter how wild the conspiracy. Candidates would run on the idea that THEIR theory was the most likely and how they would handle the consequences of said theory.
I don’t know if we would even make it to the point of declaring “the war on terror”, because we would probably be so focused on eating our own tail. There would be multiple congressional investigations as to who knew what when, but anything uncovered wouldn’t be acted upon. There would be sanctions on countries involved, but I don’t think we’d command the same world power to have so many countries willing to back us up militarily in such a time, previous agreements be damned.
I don’t think 9/11 went well for us, don’t get me wrong. I believe that, in no small part, it is responsible for how we’ve gone so far off the rails today. But it certainly could have gone much worse, and I think would, if we experienced such an event today.
…also, I’m leaving out what I think the current president’s reaction would be on purpose. I don’t ever want to see that man trying to handle a real disaster again. If it doesn’t affect him, it doesn’t matter. Bush wasn’t prepared but I truly believe he cared deeply and did his best. He didn’t even alarm the children he was with, and I deeply respect that.
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u/Theory89 4h ago
I miss the time when being sceptical didn't get you branded a conspiracy theorist. I don't believe any of the crazy shit like flat earth or climate change denial, but i also don't think that governments have much interest in sharing the truth if they can use it for political gain. My verdict of 9/11 is "90% certain not an inside job" but I'm not ruling it out completely. And no, it has nothing to do with the melting point of steel beams.
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u/Thel_Odan 2h ago
If you want to see something crazy look up the pilot episode for the show The Lone Gunman. It was a spinoff of the X-Files and the pilot aired 6 months prior to 9/11. The plot was the US Government hijacked airplanes to fly into the Twin Towers in an effort to justify military spending in the Middle East.
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u/RaynbowZFTW 3h ago
I don’t think it was an inside job but the US government was somewhat fine with it happening to justify the war on terror
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u/KaulitzWolf 2h ago
I'm not saying it's what happened, but the temptation for the American govt to pull a false flag or otherwise harm it's citizens over Middle Eastern interests Is real.
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u/DarkRedDiscomfort 2h ago
Pentagon is the one that doesn't square up for me, to be honest.
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u/Theory89 1h ago
For me it was the bombs found in a van on the George Washington Bridge on the day of the attacks, then later debunked by the FBI. Obviously news organisations do make mistakes, so it's only a small suspicion.
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u/SafetyMan35 1h ago
It’s interesting to go back and watch Good Morning America, The Today Show, Live! With Regis and Kelly or Howard Stern from that morning and how that transitioned from light entertainment to full on Holy Shit! Mode and the amount of misinformation they were receiving and having to filter out that day. The live callers who were near WTC and reported on what they (thought) they saw.
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u/lokhor 50m ago
So you missed the time that we were just all actively lied to and the public just nodded their head and moved on?
Not saying that's wrong or right. But it's quite obvious that we are being lied to daily and it's natural to question things.
I believe the real problem is, not being able to get away from any of it. Everything is just thrown at us in every which direction. Ads, texts, photos, movies, news, conversations, etc. Everything is just right in front of your face.
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u/khinzaw 5h ago
When was that?
Before 5G?
Before 9/11?
Before JFK was shot?
Before the moon landing?
Before Pearl Harbor?
Before the Illuminati?
And so on and so forth...
People have been conspiracy theorizing forever.
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u/Rugged_as_fuck 5h ago
Maybe we could just settle for the days before the craziest of the crazy could all communicate, reinforcing all their crazy ideas to one another, instantly in real time.
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u/jjtrevelyan 5h ago
People also love to forget that some "conspiracy theories" wind up to be true in time. MK Ultra, CIA international coups, "WMDs", NSA listening in, the list goes on. There's a wide range of conspiracy theories from suspicious evidence all the way to the earth is flat and the election was rigged. That's to say some are plausible and can't be fully ruled out, and some are braindead stupid.
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u/yeshihelloyesthanku 4h ago
Just remember Jesus was also a conspiracy theory. Hell the story of Jesus is thousands of years older than Jesus Christ himself.
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u/WistopherWalken 2h ago
Yeah it really is a wtc7 shame that nowadays everything is wtc7 injected with some sort of bias wtc7 either subtle or overt wtc7 as if everything has to have wtc7 an agenda. Right after wtc7 9/11, there was some semblance of wtc7 unity, well except with brown people, and we wtc7 reached across the political wtc7 aisle and became one wtc7 nation. I kinda wtc7 miss that. Wtc7
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u/OrignalCoop 1h ago
Fireman of 23yrs here. That exact book is what my dept (and I’m betting a lot of other dept) used for log books till we went digital. That book alone, while mentioning 9/11 will bring some memories up for fireman.
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u/PickledPixie83 6m ago
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE REMEMBERS THAT THERE WAS A PLANE THAT WAS SHOT DOWN.
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u/PrecursorNL 4m ago
Yeah what the hell. I never knew about the other 2 planes. But I guess I was like 7 at the same so.. yeah
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u/PickledPixie83 3m ago
I was 18, and I distinctly remember hearing that on the all day news coverage we watched from my dorm room.
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u/regalfish 33m ago
Why does it seem like all men have the same handwriting? That's mildly interesting in and of itself.
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u/gold3nhour 1h ago
The day so many of us remember so very vividly, even approaching the 25 year anniversary. It was absolutely surreal and even though I was a 14 year old girl, sitting in my 8th grade Social Studies (the irony) class in Texas, watching the tragedy unfold, not fully realizing I was being traumatized or that the entire counter just changed forever, my heart was in DC, where my paternal family resides.
My grandmother worked in the Pentagon and she was late to work this day. That’s the only reason she wasn’t harmed (directly) in this attack. It took me hours to reach her on the phone, everything was pure chaos. So, so, so surreal.
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u/Bajovane 2h ago
Wow! I wish I had my father’s diary, but when he died (suicide), the police found it and reviewed it. They discouraged my mother from reading it because Dad said some horrible things about her (bitch, nag, and so on.). I do have a notebook that had a recipe for chili that he made. It was loaded with hot ingredients and he added a note at the bottom of the page to Cut down on the hot stuff!!! 😅
He had his moments of humor!
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u/SafetyMan35 1h ago
I’m curious OP, what was the broad nature of the part you redacted? Was it a list of tasks to do? Private notes to his family? Leftover entry from the 10th? I’m curious as to what was seemingly more important that pushed his summary of the attacks to the lower half of the page.
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u/hellanation 1h ago
It may be text rolled over from the previous day, like we see on the September 12 page. The little peek of pen we see top left seems like a different colour.
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u/LilPonyBoy69 7m ago
Interesting that his first thought about the 4th plane was that it was shot down
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u/DazzzASTER 29m ago
Scribbled out the prior day because it was all about identifying some planes and getting flying lessons
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u/Gone_For_Lunch 6h ago edited 5h ago
Made a note in my diary on the way here. Simply says, “bugger”.
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u/LittelXman808 6h ago
Normally I would make fun of that handwriting, but I think he gets a pass this time.
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u/Subject_Turn3941 2h ago
Suits the sub perfectly.
But better to post it in September. The rest of the world finds the 11/9 stories tiresome, considering it happened two decades ago. At least give us the courtesy of only having to suffer it at the anniversary.
Downvote if you agree.
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u/StopImportingUSA 5h ago
I’m not gonna transscript a handwriting. Just give me a summary.
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u/TheOriginalBroCone 5h ago
Summary: u/StopImportingUSA is a dumbass
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u/Chill_Edoeard 4h ago
The dude seems to write in hyroglyphs or something, im also having a very hard time reading the text written
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u/VioletFox29 3h ago
This is not to criticize you personally but I think it's because younger people are simply writing less and are less and less adept at reading, in particular in reading handwriting.
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u/Chill_Edoeard 3h ago
Im not a young person but understand the sentiment, english also isnt my first language but you cant deny that there are better readable handwritings?
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u/VioletFox29 3h ago
Mea culpa and shame on me. I shouldn't have assumed this. (And I am the first person to jump on people for assuming things!) Sorry about that : )
The handwriting's not great but it's not like a doctor's handwriting. It's fairly legible.
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u/cache--cache 1h ago
Most people can read good handwriting. This is poor handwriting that's hard to read.
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u/VioletFox29 1h ago
Correct. No one ever said it was easy to read.
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u/cache--cache 1h ago
I'm just defending the people getting bullied for stating that it is objectively bad handwriting.
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u/cache--cache 1h ago
I didn't say you. Your comment was fine.
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u/cache--cache 1h ago
However I'd say even if kids today were great at reading handwriting, his handwriting would still be considered difficult to read, for anyone.
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u/FanGayXd 6h ago
Yo why the tell you posting your Dad’s Journal???? People really be just posting anything on the internet. Respect his privacy and your family
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u/thatredlad 3h ago
You're assuming OP didn't have permission from their dad. How about starting from a place of positivity instead of assuming malice immediately? You must live an angry life if that's your first thought.
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u/GoPhundMe 4h ago
This makes me think I should start a diary.