r/mildlyinteresting 9h ago

Someone left this note encouraging people to switch to Linux in our mailbox

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u/Orzorn 9h ago

"Hello sir, would you have time to talk about the word of GNU?"

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u/Amazing-Bass-4695 8h ago

that flyer has serious "printed at the library" energy

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u/Plus_Pangolin_8924 5h ago

That’s been printed on a laser printer from the early 00s that still works and still is compatible with Linux so why upgrade.

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u/ExoticSterby42 3h ago

Yeah, like with my new printer where I had to jump hoops installing the driver on my Macbook and surprisingly even more problems, multiple restarts on Windows until everything started working over the wireless connection.

While booting up into Linux it automatically picked it up and worked right away including the scanner.

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u/xFiendish 2h ago

I recently picked up a 2005 Brother Laser printer for free, even had toner left in it. Best investment ever! It works like a charm on both Windows (kids school laptop) and Linux.

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u/testus_maximus 2h ago

I would argue that this is good. Shows that the author is rational with resources. Completely in the spirit of Linux and open source community.

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u/ShotFromGuns 25m ago

Shows that the author is rational

Mmmmm does it tho

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u/eastbayted 7h ago

a brave GNU world awaits us

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u/woodyus 7h ago

It's so negative, get my stuff as everything else is bad rather than focussing on why you might like that Linux distro and why it's easy to use.

Most people aren't going to care or understand all those negatives. They just want a computer to turn on and do the things they need with little hassle. Switching OS seems like a hassle so they are up against it.

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u/butthurtpants 5h ago

Claiming LibreOffice is superior is a real bold claim too. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of a free and open source world, but that claim is objectively false.

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u/timangus 4h ago

Many years ago, I was a game developer and the team I worked with described animation actions using a very big CSV file that was edited in Excel. Excel would frequently shit the bed and lose edits. I found that using LibreOffice Calc (then OpenOffice) was much more reliable. Eventually the whole team switched. Granted, this is probably a little bit niche, but still.

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u/Camelknight 4h ago

IT support but I had a very similar issue the company maintained a spreadsheet that every new IT device had to be recorded in said spreadsheet just got so slow and would randomly crash so I also started using OpenOffice to deal with it and yeah it was just so much more reliable.

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u/notoyrobots 3h ago edited 6m ago

Just gave me a Vietnam style flashback to a company using a spreadsheet as a CMDB.

Netbox is free, people. Use it.

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u/Shoshke 2h ago

Hey if Wlliams, a Formula 1 team, can use e a spreadsheet for the ENTIRE BOM OF A FORMULA 1 CAR, why not cmbd?

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u/notoyrobots 2h ago edited 7m ago

disgustin

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u/Sargent_Duck85 1h ago

Ugh.
I can’t stand the interface of LibreOffice.

One of the single biggest reasons I was able to switch to Linux last year was OnlyOffixe. If I had to use LibreOffice interface I’d shoot myself.

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u/Party_Cold_4159 2h ago

Opens excel

Hey it looks like you forgot to sign in again. Please do that right fucking now or I’ll have copilot kick your ass.

enter my Microsoft account

Oops sorry looks like you need to authenticate your account again

pulls out phone and scans QR

Sorry, something went wrong.

Hey! It looks like you forgot to sign in again.

Proceed to do this circle until you end up authenticating six times and check the remember me for 30 days box for everything to do it again the next day.

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u/dryroast 1h ago

Maybe I am too lost in the sauce but I find working with Libreoffice now to be much better than MS365. I like the defaults more on LibreOffice and I guess this is a stupid point but if you use the default templates on MSOffice your shit is going to look like everyone else's, while LibreOffice definitely has a unique look.

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u/ShotFromGuns 23m ago

... You would rather use an entirely different suite of applications than just... customize the default formatting?

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u/DarkScorpion48 7h ago

The first bullet alone is utterly irrelevant to 99% of users

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u/Mean_Initiative_5962 2h ago

Also, I'm a person who kinda cares, but every single linux mint point just got a "yes... and?" from me. Looks like marketing slop from a random company.

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u/maersyl 6h ago

Great, now I have to go read Terry Pratchett again.

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u/extra_rice 6h ago

And our lord and saviour, Richard Stallman.

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u/delusionalbreaker 5h ago

Du bist gut GNUUU..

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u/Backrow6 4h ago

Praise Xe-GNU

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u/ILoveBigCoffeeCups 3h ago

GNU whiteness should be a religion

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u/anengineerandacat 21m ago

NGL would actually let them in the house and get them a glass of water and chat.

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u/beyd1 5m ago

Oh God we're the Jehovah's witnesses aren't we?

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u/dtoddh 8h ago

Gnusletter.

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u/CaptainHappy42 4h ago

If this ain't a thing, you deserve name royalties. There's a monthly $32 check for you out there!

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u/UserNameSupervisor 8h ago

"Now is the time to switch to Linux Mint. [9]

[9] linuxmint.com

Lol

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u/HastyDuring 4h ago

Bro really brought MLA citations to a neighborhood mailbox drop.

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u/LupusDeusMagnus 8h ago

Holy shit, an actual evangelist leaflet, we are one step away from Tux tracts.

Also good luck getting Mint on Apple Silicon.

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u/gyroqx 8h ago

That issue is “somewhat” got solved by Asahi Linux

https://asahilinux.org

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u/iamasadlittleman 6h ago

as far as i know this is kinda buggy and overall just a worse experience than macOS, macOS isn't really as bad as windows so im not sure why the average user would wanna do this though

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u/Cel_Drow 6h ago

macOS is Unix derived from Openstep for Mach and FreeBSD, you can run a bash terminal if you prefer over zshell and it’s quite well optimized. Not sure why most power users would want to do that, unless it’s outdated hardware which an M1 isn’t yet.

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u/Captaincadet 2h ago

Yes but why would the general consumer want to do this?

I love Linux but I absolutely hate having to deal with packages and all that stuff in my own time - Mac’s just works most of the time

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u/northSideways 1h ago

What do you mean by "deal with packages?"

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u/formerlyanonymous_ 57m ago

I think this is where they say "I use Arch, btw"

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u/gyroqx 1h ago

Hardware is expected to get older and at some point apple will drop support.

These operating systems will become useful when that happens. We already saw many mac users installing linux on their 2000s and early 2010s computers.

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u/CactusBoyScout 56m ago

I don’t think most consumers with Apple Silicon devices have any reason to do this now but the hope is that when Apple eventually drops support for the first gen of Apple Silicon this will be an option for continued software updates so they don’t become totally abandoned.

Although even if Apple drops official support there may be workarounds for installing newer versions of macOS like OpenCore Legacy.

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u/Maleficent_Celery_55 5h ago

its not buggy anymore but yeah you're right about the average user part.

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u/Creeper_H_youtube 7h ago

You can do so on M1 and M2 mac’s using Asahi. Anything newer is out of luck though

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u/Effective_Repeat9967 8h ago

Also good luck getting Mint on Apple Silicon.

https://asahilinux.org/

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u/Barton2800 4h ago

Asahi only supports M1 and M2 apple silicon, not the M3, M4, or M5 generations. It also is lacking in some key hardware support, like TouchID, thunderbolt, and USB-C displays.

Don’t get me wrong, I really want to see Asahi succeed, but right now I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone unless they’re interested in a very early beta software type of experience.

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u/Ok-Addition1264 8h ago

Yeesh. No thanks. I gotta hand it to them though.. it is the first necessary step of many needed to get it to be practical.

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u/AthosAlonso 7h ago

Asking as a non-expert, why is this a good step and yet you say “no thanks”?

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u/SafetyFromNumbers 6h ago

Asahi Linux only has good support on older hardware. Newer hardware is experimental at best. M3 and beyond aren't really ready for ordinary users.

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u/Certified_GSD 2h ago

Early adopters and power users are essential for testing, reporting issues, and fixing problems and working on drivers and functions.

A Linux user is more likely to be a "power user" (and also a masochist) but not everyone can fix and recompile and use command lines to figure things out. Most people just want things to work. Linux has come a long way in the last decade to be very user friendly that most people can use it just fine, built upon the work of a lot of early adopters and software engineers working on a lot problems for free.

As their work matures, it's likely we'll see Linux work better on Apple Silicon, especially when they get dropped by Apple for official support and security updates.

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u/dryroast 1h ago

I love the term tux tracts

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u/Cross_22 7h ago

Stallman, stop dumping your manifestos into people's mailboxes!

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u/dryroast 1h ago

Linux Mint allows binary blobs it's still too proprietary for Stallman. He's too much of a hardliner sometimes.

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u/ghostkneed218 43m ago

rms is his own worst enemy

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u/suwaaarat 47m ago

mint is not libre enough for him

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u/DiverIndependent6266 8h ago

Love the bullet that "Windows is bad because it can be hacked!" as if that can't happen with Linux or any other OS

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u/bestjakeisbest 6h ago

Windows is bad because my computer is not micro or soft, its big and hard ... wait.

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u/Ok-Addition1264 8h ago

The list of linux kernel exploits has grown pretty large recently including one critical one that allows executing code on the host in cloud enviroments <-- yeowza.

MacOS too.

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u/julkkis666 7h ago

yeah, these are being discovered due to it being open source, and people investigating it. they're being patched as they're found. with microsoft windows, who knows. fun fact, they hacked iran's nuclear centrifuges with windows XP.

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u/PrairiePopsicle 3h ago

It seems increasingly likely that backdoor are also a thing

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u/julkkis666 3h ago

the fact they're found doesn't mean they're increasing, assuming you update your system when the vulns are revealed.

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u/PrairiePopsicle 2h ago

Sorry, increasingly likely there are backdoors in windows in areas of code we cannot see.

Linux... flaws, hackable, but at least open. I suspect there will be attacks on it systematically if it starts to gain market share, both black hat types and corporate type reputation attacks. It is possible some of the vulnerabilities found recently were to damage reputation rather than cause harms or gains for those who found them. Does that make sense?

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u/ElectronicMoo 8h ago

It's because foks are using Ai to seek them out. It's easy to get the source code, then tell Ai to find an exploit.

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u/Cross_22 7h ago

Yay open source!!

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u/ElectronicMoo 1h ago

While this is a new wrinkle because of buttheads, it still does prove the worth of open source over closed source. Exploits found and resolved in record time.

Closed source they can just not tell you, never find it, or patch it three years from now.

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u/timangus 4h ago

And find fixes.

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u/CMDR_Kassandra 8h ago

And the list of windows exploits has also grown, atleast the ones we get told about.

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u/Wild4fire 7h ago

I always wondered at the "this other OS is not vulnerable" type of comments.

While yes, another OS might be more secure by design, it does not mean that it is fully secure. The more an OS grows in popularity, the more hackers are attracted to it and the more security flaws will eventually be found - increasing the amount of viruses and exploits.

It's just that Windows has such a massive installed base that most efforts to find exploits and such are focused at Windows.

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u/celaconacr 3h ago

Yeah windows has always been a hacker target because of its large user base which makes it seem much weaker than it is. Don't get me wrong before the NT kernel move it wasn't secure at all.

The vast majority of "hacks" are now social not OS flaws. Guessing passwords, password re-use, phishing emails... The genuine exploits found are often with convoluted circumstances requiring specific adjusted configurations or user access (not admin) before even being able to run the exploit.

If we wanted a more secure OS we would probably need to start again with all the exploit knowledge we have built over decades. Secure hardware, every app digitally signed quantum proof, sandboxed app memory, compiled with a memory safe language etc. Developing it and maintaining performance through security barriers would be challenging and even then we will probably find new ways to exploit it as time goes by.

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u/XOtentialAsthmatic 4h ago

Difference is now the software creators are the ones spying and exploiting and creating vulnerabilities, then labeling it as a feature of the OS.

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u/reggionh 7h ago

a form of religious sentiment. funnily enough in the society I came from christianity is advertised as anti black magic and curses

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u/Vladimir_Chrootin 7h ago

It doesn't actually say that Linux can't be hacked, even though I have met people who do genuinely believe that. It's nevertheless the wrong line of attack, as I see it.

Silicon Valley is entirely compromised by the Epstein class, and they want to control how you vote, regardless of which country you live in, how you think, and even if you think, as they're quite happy for you to use AI for that until you forget how to do it for yourself.

They won't stop poking their noses in unless you actively prevent them from doing so, and changing operating systems is only a partial solution to that problem.

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u/DunkeyColdMedina 8h ago

Yeah. That dude gonna support all those poor sons of bitches when they inevitably have questions? I'm a recent convert myself and it's been pretty frustrating. I'm sure it will pay off in the end, but a lot of people aren't turbo nerds who have the time and the thick skull for banging one's head against the wall for fun.

I would never tell someone to pick it up without telling them how it's an investment, not instant gratification. I think that can be pretty inconsiderate and irresponsible.

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u/Mr_Zoovaska 7h ago

I low-key think this might be from the local IT professional who put these out as a way to get potential customers to talk to him about it.

Also you do kind of have to do a certain amount of personal research to even begin the installation process on your own so I'm not too concerned about people not realising what they're getting into.

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u/DunkeyColdMedina 7h ago

It's so much worse than the advocates say. And a LOT of people fuck their systems up just trying to install it. Listen I am on team Linux, but I feel as if people want converts more than they want to keep them and that is not how you do advocacy.

It's shooting yourself and the other person in the foot.

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u/ProtonPizza 4h ago

I guess I’ll be the counterpoint. I just installed Ubuntu for the first time and basically had gpt 5.6 walk me through the entire process from flashing the usb, sorting out bios setting, installing gpu drivers, and setting up all my little tweaks. Easier now then it’s ever been.

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u/triedandtruemethod 3h ago

i've recently put linux on my computer as someone who isn't that knowledgeable, but knows more about computers than the average person, and let me tell you the average person should not be encouraged to fuck with their electronics that much without direct assistance from someone who knows what they're doing

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u/Slash_rage 6h ago

I’m a Linux admin and will say without a doubt most people should not be running any version of Linux.

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u/Mean_Initiative_5962 2h ago

Everything I touch dies, xkcd technical issues strips just describe my life, I've had one that will be the closing bit of my stand up comedy lineup if I'll ever decide to jump and try it. And Linux advocates want me to install and use a system that doesn't even ask for confirmation if I type a command that literally wipes out everything? No fucking way.

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 3h ago

I never used Linux Mint, but I’ve heard people say that their forums are very friendly to beginners.

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u/Sync1211 2h ago

There's a group in my city that not only upgrades old PCs to Linux, but also helps with questions and such.

I haven't seen many issues with Mint so far, except for the basic "how do I view my files"/"how do I install apps" stuff.

Only "bug" issue I've encountered was a bug in the Nvidia driver. This one was easily fixable and well documented on the forums.

(The drivers are getting better but still; Nvidia GFY!)

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u/TheBroWhoLifts 4h ago

I use Linux almost exclusively as headless servers on my homelab, and Windows 11 for daily use. Home security camera system runs on Frigate in a docker container on a Proxmox hyoervisor. TrueNAS runs in a VM on one of my main computers. I run a Palworld server for my friend group, and that's an Ubuntu VM on a Windows device. I do all of my coding projects in Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).

But I stopped running Linux as my daily driver years ago. For servers, it's amazing. For daily use, be prepared to spend a lot of time trying to solve basic problems that, frankly, often never get solved.

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u/DeZaim 2h ago

I semi recently made the switch to CachyOS because I was sick of the privacy concerns I had with windows

And yeah, I gotta say there were a lot of "why is this not working?" And it would always be because I didn't have <thing> install, or a certain command wasn't included

I probably started on the back foot with a laptop that is dual GPU (Intel iGPU and 3070) which has complicated things quite a lot, but I have to say, now that things are working it's been pretty flawless

Also running a truenas system, and setting up a proxmox system with opnsense and HAOS

It's been a fun ride so far tbh

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u/Present_Quantity_400 1h ago

The amount of command lines you have to type to do simple things, it's frustrating and a waste of time. 

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u/RizzOreo 7h ago

You know it's a Linux user because a flyer is supposed to be short and concise, and they made one longer than a college dissertation

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u/iprocrastina 9h ago

Linux Mint? That's odd. Usually this type of person would tell people to install Gentoo or Arch.

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u/Mr_Zoovaska 8h ago edited 8h ago

Mint seems to be the go-to recommendation for noobs these days. I have it dual installed on my laptop but it had screen tearing issues that I couldn't troubleshoot so I never use it. If I ever get a decent PC again I'll probably try and switch for good, if not Mint then another dist

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u/CMDR_Kassandra 8h ago

If possible, just avoid nvidia GPUs under linux. AMD and Intel GPUs work pretty much out of the box, as they actually contribute to the linux kernel.

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u/Cross_22 7h ago

This made me chuckle because I gave up on linux 30 years ago because of its lousy nvidia support. Some things never change.

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 3h ago

Valve said they’re gonna work with Nvidia to better support their GPUs on SteamOS, which is just an immutable Linux distro based on Arch

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u/Kartonrealista 2h ago

*Nvidia's lousy Linux support

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u/Mr_Zoovaska 7h ago

My laptop just has Intel integrated graphics lol

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 3h ago

My current and past laptops both had AMD CPUs with integrated graphics, and both Ubuntu and Fedora worked without issues out of the box. (I prefer Ubuntu though)

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u/Mr_Zoovaska 1h ago

It was mainly noticeable when watching video content. Both downloaded (with VLC) and streaming. I probably could have troubleshot it further but I couldn't be arsed at that point.

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u/MajesticBread9147 7h ago

Anecdotally, my Nvidia GPU on my Dell XPS has had zero issues on CachyOS (based on arch Linux). I've been using it for 6 months and the only problems I've had since switching was I had to manually add a Bluetooth devices mac address.

Granted I've not ran anything more demanding than Fallout: New Vegas but still.

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u/Dreamerlax 6h ago

Nvidia is generally ok. Not as great and not as seamless as AMD or Intel but depends on distros.

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u/D-Angle 3h ago

I put Mint on a creaky old laptop that I wasn't using any more just to see what it was like, it's a perfectly usable day to day machine now.

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u/Mr_Zoovaska 1h ago

Yeah, beyond the screen tearing it seemed highly functional, with mostly clean and intuitive interface and systems.

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u/EbonySaints 5h ago

I installed Arch, like, thirteen years ago.

I will never do that again for as long as I live. The fact that the AUR got compromised more times than I can count doesn't help.

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u/grakef 22m ago

Probably an outlier here. Been a Linux desktop user since ‘97. I never suggest Gentoo. Gentoo and LFS are a very different OS for people that want to understand way more about their Linux desktop. Arch is a good choice but never a first choice. I used Debian and Ubuntu a lot in the past as suggestions for users. Mint being Debian based is a great choice IMHO for a first encounter with Linux.

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u/jamesdownwell 4h ago

This so cringe.

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u/Mindestiny 1h ago

It's at least mildly amusing to see all the Linux cultists rush to the comments to defend it

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u/HeilYourself 8h ago

Imagine expecting the average person, who is in no way an enthusiast and has no professional needs, to switch to Linux over Windows. Most people don't even know what an operating system is. And you think they're going to install a community made alternative?

So they can..... open YouTube? Use Gmail?

I'm sure the person that distributed these flyers is not unintelligent, but they are so deep in their bubble they've forgotten the rest of the world exists.

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u/NerdyGuy117 8h ago

So they’re a redditor?

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u/Mr_Zoovaska 7h ago

I mean I don't think they expect this to convince many average people but there's a chance it'll reach someone who's just nerdy enough to know what it means but not nerdy enough to have actually considered it.

Besides I like to think this is more about simply floating the idea that there are alternatives to bending to the will of evil megacorporations, rather than actually convincing individuals to switch to Linux Mint right now.

Also it's not like they're being overly preachy or persistent or actually knocking on people's doors or anything, so no harm no foul as far as I'm concerned.

But maybe I'm giving them too much benefit of the doubt and they are just a paranoid, out-of-touch weirdo

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u/Mean_Initiative_5962 2h ago

Anyone who's half that nerdy already thought about it and made their decision based on actual real-use evaluation instead of a flyer where half the points looks like any big tech ad, though

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u/julkkis666 7h ago

i mean that's litterally the best case for going over to linux. if you only use the internet, and have no need for .exe:s. especially shit like Copilot-slop-office or any adobe product.

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u/primalbluewolf 7h ago

So they can..... open YouTube? Use Gmail?

That's sufficient reason to want an alternative to Windows, yes.

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 3h ago

Where are you getting that from? You can give out flyers with the expectation that only a small fraction will be effective. What’s the problem with that?

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u/Mindestiny 1h ago

It's literally the definition of spam.  You're shotgunning out garbage and bothering tons of people in hopes one or two might listen to your preaching.

People don't look favorably at the junk mail in their mailbox or the evangelists on the subway shoving religious papers down everyone's throat either.  

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u/nguyenhuudailoc 7h ago

"How likely are you to recommend Linux Mint to a friend or colleague?"

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u/donkeytime 7h ago

I use OS/2 Warp on my personal desktop so I don’t get Microsoft viruses in my toolbar. Linux put a grub on my computer when I tried it.

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u/BloodAndSand44 5h ago

This person took time to complete the Windows feedback popup on how likely they were to recommend Windows family or friends. They scored it 0.

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u/Schnitzhole 4h ago edited 4h ago

I tried linux again last month with a few distros. It's still far from being able to have mass adoption. 90% of my time was spent getting things to work so I can figure out how to download more stuff to get that thing to work better and it just spirals infinitely until all I'm doing is banging my head against a wall not getting anything done and reinstalling windows.

If you just need it to run a web browser then yeah, I'm sure it will do just fine. I actually like the concept of it and want it to succeed but these Linux pushers need to wake up, we don't all do computer programming or have IT backgrounds and love working in CLI's. If you watch Linus tech tips they recently did a review of a few different distros and they all struggled and those are guys that are probably the most likely to be successful using it.

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u/chakrablockerssuck 1h ago

It’s illegal to leave materials not postmarked in your mailbox. Just saying…

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u/ohnojono 7h ago

Saying it's used at the Australian National University probably isn't the flex they think it is. While it used to be a highly regarded world-class university, now the ANU is a bit of a shitshow.

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u/SnozberryTheMighty 8h ago

I just swapped to Linux on my gaming PC, Bazzite is working very well. I love it so far.

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u/ElectronicMoo 8h ago

I dual booted pop! and Mint with a shared steam library in a 3rd partition. Everything has been fine under mint haven't needed pop. Even star citizen, the pig it is, works well.

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u/SnozberryTheMighty 8h ago

Nice! Ill never look back at this point, fuck microsoft! Glad to see others doing the same.

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u/KiraNinja 5h ago

I've never used Linux in my life and a friend set it up on my laptop to see how I get along with it, it's been fantastic!

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 3h ago

FYI PopOS recently developed their own desktop environment, so it’s still pretty buggy from what I’ve heard.

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u/ElectronicMoo 1h ago

I wasn't a fan of pops desktop, it's a tile system kinda thing. Makes sense if it's a console thing you're going for like Big Picture, but I needed a daily driver too so didn't quite cut it for me.

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u/Syndiotactics 2h ago

CachyOS here, works like a dream

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u/WretchedMisteak 7h ago

Very culty.

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u/mmaster23 5h ago

Look, as much as we all like to bash on windows and Microsoft, at least half of the talking points are false or don't impact you as much as you might think. Recall can't just be accessed by other people, over the network.

Also, I dare to say, a Linux distro in less capable hands has the potential to be less secure than Mac OS or windows. If you hear what kind of AI generated bullshit support answers people blindly input into their computers... Jikes. 

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u/ElectronicMoo 8h ago

I made the switch to Mint, and the transition was pretty painless for this old man.

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u/pirate135246 7h ago

Linux users upgraded from vegan tier annoying to car warranty sales annoying

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u/Adelaidean 7h ago

I remember when they used to have meetups where people would help you to install everything and get you started on using it all.

It could be cool to do that again.

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u/nilmemory 4h ago

The IT equivilant of a window installer driving around throwing bricks through people's windows.

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u/Hakaisha89 1h ago

First up, this flyer is a federal offense, so thats one barrel of bees.

And something being proprietary and closed source doesnt make something bad or insecure.
Every os eventually reaches EoS, like Centos, CoreOS, and Pear OS, so an Windows 10 retiring ofr Windows 11 isnt unusuall.
Data collection aint unique to Windows, everything thats online collects some form of diagnostic and/or usage data.
Windows 11 is the successor to Windows 10, and for Many years, you could upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11 for free, heck, I think you can still do it, so saying Microsoft is abandoning Windows 10 to sell mor product is just disingeneous.
Microsoft Recall is shit, but its also not available on most PCs, heck you would need to go outta your way to even get it, and even on devices that Has it, its still opt-in.
Implying hackers can't hack ever Linux/GNU distro in existance.
There are privacy and data protection laws that governs how data can be collected, what data can be collected, and even how it is to be stored.
Finally, while Linux Mint and LibreOffice are good options for many people, they are not objectively 'superior' Mint aint even a top 20 Linux distro, and has just as many disadvantages and advantages as any other OD.
And it being free and open source, doesnt mean its better.
You dont switch OS due to ideological reasons, you switch due to need, software, and workflow.

This just proves linux is a cult.

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u/LegendOfVinnyT 6m ago

That whole flyer reads like a Slashdot poster fell into a coma in 2003, woke up last month, and is now trying to make up for lost time.

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u/Pyroburner 9h ago

My understanding is recall is disabled by default but it can easily become an issue. I'm moving more and more of my devices to linux so its nice to see this as well. It also runs great on old hardware.

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u/MrRufsvold 1h ago

My understanding is that it was originally planned to be opt-out before backlash made them switch to opt-in.

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u/CareerLegitimate7662 7h ago

The kind of propaganda I want in my mail.

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u/turnipturnipturnip2 8h ago

How dp you know if someone:

Uses Linux or Is a vegan or Wears a Tilley hat

They will tell you.

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u/julkkis666 7h ago

people should propably start asking about people's food restrictions so vegans don't have to say it "out of nowhere" when going to places. people learn by going hungry.

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u/uchoppedgng 4h ago

Libreoffice is not superior to microsoft office

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u/SithLordRising 6h ago

The time is GNU

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u/tylerderped 8h ago

I literally think my best friend did this lmao

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u/Dancegames 6h ago

I put my wife on Zorin and she loves it. Way faster than when her laptop was running windows, longer battery life too. Still works with steam too!

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u/patricksaurus 6h ago

Whoa, I just had a Proustian moment. I saw the leaflet, recalled that the last time I installed Mint was during that short period a year or two ago when that hacker group managed to a download with back door linked to the official distribution page.

Then I realized it was ten years ago, played my life since 2016 back to myself in fast forward, and realized I’m very old.

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u/rdtusrname 6h ago

I mean, it isn't a bad advice, but ... Microsoft just caved in and extended the Win10 support to the end of 27, so...you're in no rush.

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u/Feahnor 3h ago

Not gonna lie. Yesterday I tested the KDE part of steamos and it works incredibly well.

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u/DigitalJopa 3h ago

Linux's Witnesses

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u/Mean_Initiative_5962 3h ago

I fully support this, but any alternative to office so far sadly sucks. We need countries to put some funding into the development of a good open source office suit, maybe it will fix this issue

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u/Lovethecreeper 2h ago

this is fantastic

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u/trying2t-spin 2h ago

While I appreciate the sentiment this is just a waste of paper. nobody will be switching because of this

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u/YonYonYonYonYon 2h ago

Most normal Linux user

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u/thedreaming2017 1h ago

This is a great way to turn people of to Linux. How many of us have gotten a letter about how we should do anything and we did exactly the opposite just out of spite.

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u/LadyFenyx 1h ago

LibreOffice is cool though - been using it for years because MS is too fucking annoying lol

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u/irukanjid 1h ago

This is like mormons visiting your door but 🤓 with a goal of getting rid of Windows 😂. Linux is superior.

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u/joebreeves 1h ago

If you can find a host for me that has a friendly parrot, I will be very very glad. If you can find someone who has a friendly parrot I can visit with, that will be nice too.

DON’T buy a parrot figuring that it will be a fun surprise for me. To acquire a parrot is a major decision: it is likely to outlive you. If you don’t know how to treat the parrot, it could be emotionally scarred and spend many decades feeling frightened and unhappy. If you buy a captured wild parrot, you will promote a cruel and devastating practice, and the parrot will be emotionally scarred before you get it. Meeting that sad animal is not an agreeable surprise.

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u/TheEmbersOfTwilight 8h ago

While mint is great for beginners, I would honestly tell people to use Ubuntu. Just my personal preference. Most people doing a conversion campaign would usually talk about arch or something though.

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u/EvlMinion 7h ago

I went with Mint on my mom's computer as the Win10 updates were about to end because it feels more like Windows does. It made the switch easy for her.

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u/P1ssBobSh1tPants69 7h ago

Ubuntu is fine but Mint's ui is more familiar to windows users.

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u/Syndiotactics 2h ago

Ubuntu works better than Mint in my experience anyways.

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u/Playful_Assistance89 9h ago edited 8h ago

Ahh, Linux users. When operating system meets religion, and zealotry runs rampant. I'm surprised they didn't include a DVD or USB or whatever the cool kids are using these days.

Edit: Downvotes from the zealots! Nice! The first kernel I ever compiled was 2.2.4 on a Pentium 200. 1998-ish? If you assume that I dont know what I'm talking about, you're a fool.

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u/Mindestiny 1h ago

The funny thing is seeing OP hard plugging Linux throughout the thread, in similar long winded evangelism.  Getting a sinking suspicion that they're the one printing up these flyers.

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u/Mr_Zoovaska 8h ago

Honestly windows (and Microsoft in general) has gotten so bad recently that this kind of thing doesn't seem so unreasonable anymore

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u/DiverIndependent6266 8h ago

Microsoft is a shit company, and I hate the forced AI integration (Copilot key) on every single new laptop. As well as the constant bloatware and advertisements from Microsoft. But, I still wouldn't recommend Linux, it just isn't close to a 1 to 1 replacement of Windows. If you use any type of commercial software (Adobe suite for example), there's a good chance there just aren't good alternatives. MacOS seems to be the only OS on caliber with Windows when comparing things like program support and general ease of use

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u/fanglesscyclone 4h ago

Really the only commercial software where this is an issue is for creatives, and even then only if they’re stuck to Adobe products. It seems like every time Linux comes up suddenly everyone is an Adobe subscriber that can’t live without Photoshop or Premiere.

You can do music production, you can do video editing, both with commercial software used by professionals on Linux natively. People have to stop acting like it’s still the early 2000s, Linux has come a long way.

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u/Mr_Zoovaska 8h ago

Yeah you're not wrong, but the more people that stop using windows the more likely they are to get their act together. And the more people that use Linux the more likely Adobe etc will consider support for it.

So like while it's probably optimistic I actually appreciate the effort.

Rome wasn't built in a day or whatever.

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u/Playful_Assistance89 8h ago

MS/Win has gotten so bad recently

I've heard that exact same line repeated countless times since the 90s.

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u/Salahuddin315 8h ago

And, when you've had your fill, you can join the distro wars for extra content.

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u/Playful_Assistance89 8h ago

If we're going to argue Linux, distro wars are stupid. Let's do something fun like systemd.

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u/Unicorn-Violator 8h ago

Lmao, my family can't even run windows or mac and you want regular people moving to Linux?

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u/Syndiotactics 2h ago

Made my grandma use Linux Mint, I don’t think she even realized the OS changed. She actually has less problems than she used to have with Windows.

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u/XiTzCriZx 7h ago

They should really have a QR code to see a web version of this. Links on paper are as good as useless for most people, even easy ones.

The people who are technically inclined enough to be able to install a new OS and backup their files would probably know how to use a QR code.

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u/domesticbland 6h ago

I think I know that guy.

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u/MrTomRobs 4h ago

Just like being back at Uni...

And exactly why I didn't want anything to do with my degree after I graduated

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u/Anonymity6584 4h ago

Damn someone in seriously 'spread the word' phase of linux exposure.

Yes, in linux user too and remember when i was in that phase. lasted few years.

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u/turfey 3h ago

I like Mint a lot and keep it as a dual boot option but the one thing that really frustrates me and keeps me from switching over exclusively is the lack of a single good music player that can let me simply import and play my m3u playlists simply and painlessly. You can kind of get MusicBee (my preferred music player) running on it through wine but it's clunky as shit.

I still haven't really tried gaming with it either, which I should because I have NVIDIA and have heard there's some issues there.

Other than that, really awesome OS. I'm not going to be an evangelist for it though.

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u/Interesting_Tap_1505 2h ago

Doesn’t even work because most Apple laptops now are Apple silicon and I can’t run Linux mint on my M5 MBP and I much prefer macOS anyway

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u/metadatame 2h ago

Libre office sucks though 

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u/BasKabelas 2h ago

Im sure Linux is technically a great option for most people, but at the same time I'm also convinced the overwhelming majority can't be bothered switching over from Windows or iOS because it works well enough for them.

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u/Cassius_Clay_101 2h ago

It's good advice, do it. 

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u/back_to_the_homeland 1h ago

That office argument is really not convincing

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u/VagrantVultures 1h ago

Trouble here is that actually being able to switch a Chromebook to Mint requires significantly more involvement.

Like my Chromebook had to go back and forth with Developer Mode, OS Verification toggles, and physically opening the laptop backing to unplug the battery, just to get it to use MrChromebox and boot into a standard UEFI mode. All this to do that and flash the firmware permanently.

THEN be able to install Mint properly.

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u/K1ngofnoth1ng 1h ago

Seems like a high schooler who learned how to dual boot his first LinuxOS. I had a friend in highschool who thought he was “Hackerman” because he learned how to dual boot Ubuntu, and decided he would take it upon himself to install it on any computer he was left alone near just to tell you how superior it was.

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u/juicy_steve 1h ago

Upgrade your mac due to this long list of reasons why windows is shit

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u/HayStacky_337 1h ago

Adorable! Should translate that into multiple languages.

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u/Over_Fly1971 34m ago

Bro put this flier out to be anti-ai and doesn't know Linus supports AI xD

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u/thuragath 25m ago

I wish we got stuff like this in our mailbox.

I got a 100+ page book on bible prophecy explaining that the papacy was responsible nd the end times were near.

I thumbed through it, no specifics, no names, just vague references, sporadic bible verses and odd conclusions. The book had a print date of 2026, copyright from the 80s. So it's been the same vapid nonsense for 40+ years.

Just tore it up and tossed it.

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u/Glad_Following_8164 24m ago

The people there are toxic though

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u/TheRealHFC 23m ago

I appreciate the effort, but they kinda glossed over the whole Apple Silicon thing. Sure, you can use Asahi Linux on M1 and 2, but beyond that, you're stuck with an ARM VM

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u/Strassi007 20m ago

Oh i need to think about something like that. Maybe Support-number and mail address on the back so that i can get some beer money on the side supporting the converted souls.

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u/PhabioRants 13m ago

Prostlytizing on the platform of "Windows dumb" isn't going to get anyone to take you seriously. 

Lead with the relevant facts that are relative to the friction and grievances that actually matter to people. 

No Linux distros refuse to take no for an answer like they're trying to date rape you. "Yes" and "not now" are not acceptable answers to you asking me to use copilot for the third time this session. 

"Your data, your rules" means that nothing you do is tracked and sold by your distro to build a profile on you. 

Open-source software means it's constantly vetted by concerned eyes instead of proudly proclaiming that "85% of code we shipped in the last year was written by AI"  with a Trust Me Bro sticker on it amid yet another scandal of this OS version bricking systems or accounts. 

No one's going to lock you out of your account and wipe your cloud storage on Linux because someone stole your password. 

Etc. etc. 

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u/Infinitrium 6h ago

If this gets even just a few people talking about Linux or better yet to switch to is then mission accomplished

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