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u/MarsupialNo1220 15h ago
England has a shot at revenge this weekend in the Nations Championship.
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u/sleeperninja Birb Fan 14h ago
Hard cope, there.
I’m not a fan, but pound for pound, Mbappe is a way more effective attacker. France has a much stronger midfield to pair with their fast attack game, as well.
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u/Zathura26 11h ago
Hahaha, finally a good meme. Like, OK, most of the Argentinians that are able to travel abroad are from the upper class, which are the worst of the worst. So, if you've met an Argentinian abroad, chances are, they were racist. But, please, come to our country. We have beautiful natural wonders, and most of the people here are actually quite nice.
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u/Terrible_Zone_0716 10h ago
Well, in the case of the World Cup specifically, it's either upper class or someone who left their entire lineage with generational debt
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u/Regular-Nose1487 7h ago
Based on videos is more like 70%upper then 30% generational debt
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u/EmperorN7 9h ago
I don't know mate, working class Argentineans attending games in Brazil don't behave much better either. Argentina just has a problem and they refuse to address it.
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u/TheGocho 4h ago
Hardcore football fans are assholes everywhere. You have hooligans, and all the racists that yell things against vinicius in Spain. That just to give an example.
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u/walee1 9h ago
I have met a few but since I work in academia, they are academics or associated with them. In my experience they were like every other human i have met. Some very friendly, some not so much. None I met were racist. But small sample size.
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u/Zathura26 9h ago
Oh, I'm also in academia. It's a different environment. I was referring mostly to rich tourists. This case from February comes to mind https://buenosairesherald.com/society/argentine-tourist-accused-of-racism-in-brazil-spent-hours-in-jail-and-was-released
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u/Fit_Vegetable5704 9h ago
If football fans could influence our opinions of countries we’d be up to the 10th world war by now.
I’ve only ever heard good things about Argentina and its people from brits who have been there, and I’m English.
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u/Background-Advice-80 10h ago
Che yo viajo un montón pero de pobre. Es por trabajo
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u/granola117 9h ago
I'm more medium tone Hispanic guy in the US who's met a lot of Argentinans visiting and living here and they've all been very nice to me so hearing that they're racist is a sad surprise to me. But understandable as well.
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u/Zathura26 9h ago
I was referring mostly to rich tourists. Of course, people are people, not all rich Argentinians are discriminatory. But, if you ever meet a racist Argentinian abroad, just keep in mind they don't represent all of us. Most of us are nice people. This case from February comes to mind https://buenosairesherald.com/society/argentine-tourist-accused-of-racism-in-brazil-spent-hours-in-jail-and-was-released
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u/BowTiedCarpincho 9h ago
Mamita que pelotudez dijiste eh, todo para quedar bien con los culos roto estos
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u/Paella007 7h ago edited 7h ago
I don't doubt any of that and of course it can't be everybody but I've seen enough Milei supporters talking to know it's not only an upper class problem.
Sorry but the country as a whole needs a mental restructuring for several decades now (and I mean it just like my country needs one too). As long as that sack of shit has any semblamce of support, u can't convince me u're not a racist country.
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u/bmedeiros06 7h ago
There are countless cases across the years of Argentinians mimicking monkeys to Brazilians and calling us monkeys. I've also had met Argentinians many times on multi-player games, since it's quite common Brazil and Argentina share the same server and the behavior repeats. They called me monkey multiple times when they know I'm from Brazil. So no, the hate isn't for nothing. I'm sorry but many people of your country aren't leaving a good impression.
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u/Raki2 4h ago
the things go the two ways mate, i met a brazilian in rocket league who said that im so poor that i should kll myself so i get a new chance at life, and i cant count the times some brazilians trolled me in csgo back when if your teammate gets hurt on your molotov you get banned, they throw themselves in the molotov and stood in front of me when i shoot, also i have to remember the time argentina almost dont play against brasil because brazilian police were hitting the family of the players?
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u/Anxiously_Anonimous 4h ago
Na, los argentinos son racistas sin importar su poder económico. Y si no son racistas son clasistas, homofóbicos y transfobicos. Ya de por si no debería estar normalizado "ah si son de clase alta son racistas"
Fuente: tuve la mala suerte de nacer y crecer en Argentina siendo una persona queer y de color
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u/AldaronGau 59m ago
Somos uno de los países menos transfobicos del mundo, con las leyes más progresistas. No digo que no te pueda pasar nada malo porque tengo una amiga trans y sé como es pero en otros lados es mucho mucho peor.
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u/Zathura26 1h ago
...lamento tu mala experiencia. Como en todos lados, hay gente discriminadora, pero no todos. Yo me vine a vivir al noroeste, y pensé que la gente iba a ser mas intolerante acá...y me encontré todo lo contrario. Con el popurrí de etnias que hay acá, dentro de todo no hay tanto racismo. Pero sorprendentemente tambien hay una comunidad LGBT bastante activa, muchos en mi facultad se vinieron de sus pueblos, que haya si son mas cerrados, y acá pudieron salir del closet y viven su mejor vida. Para conseguir tratamientos...si...hay cada medico hdp. Eso si. Pero...que se yo. Es peor en otros lados del país, y en otros países. No esta perfecta la cosa, pero va mejorando poco a poco. Y bien que no voy a dejar que los de derecha arruinen todo el progreso que venimos consiguiendo para hacer de este país un menor lugar para todos. Intuyó por lo que decís que te fuiste del país... Ojala algún día mejore lo suficiente la cosa como para que te den ganas de volver. De todas formas, te deseo lo mejor.
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u/Raythatstabbedsteve 5h ago
Went to Argentina, natural wonders were naturally wonderful, working class people were super nice, upper class people were as expected, 6 year old kids joined our soccer game in a park, formed triangles and scored on us. Also, the beef was excellent. 10/10, learned why my country has no chance at the world cup.
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u/Burundangaa 1h ago
As an argentinian, I hate the rich people of our country, the ones that love to go to Miami to live.
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u/No_Palpitation133 14h ago
But Reddit said they are bad so I have to cry
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u/ROBtimusPrime1995 8h ago
The weirdest thing I learned from watching the World Cup this year is that multiple sports subs users really want each other to "cry harder," and I don't understand how these two words have been spammed by millions of people these last few weeks.
It's like they all share the same brain cell.
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u/jessbird 10h ago
literally the terminally-online foaming at the mouth is reaching unprecedented levels. i open any social platform and everyone is losing their shit (and suddenly experts on argentine history??)
i walk my dog in his lil messi jersey and literally get stopped by every person i pass with compliments/rooting for argentina. i’m starting to think it’s a comment section disease.
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u/Careless-Cap7691 12h ago
This wc seriously is making me feel so concerned.
I mean, look at how the worldwide public opinion can be so easily manipulated by a few hundreds of bots?
How can people don't even realize the giant brainwash this has been?
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u/VictarionWinter 11h ago
People's getting dumber and dumber each generation since we have PC's, so it's not a surprise
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u/Horror_Bus9696 2h ago
This World Cup taught me so much about confirmation bias and tribalism it’s genuinely insane how easily people believe anything they see just because everyone else seem to believe it
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u/Saitama170719 10h ago
Only assholes from tiktok or places like reddit can be manipulated like that. I've seen many countries cheering for Argentina, europeans and asians. Messi's loved worldwide.
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u/lessnames 53m ago
Even Cuti Romero who is essentially just another great player from Argentina (not a super star) has fans in KOREA. Like, what???
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u/DC4L_21 10h ago
Idk what your talking about. Argentina has always been hated. Particularly by Latin America. Their fans have a long history of being some of the most vile and racist in the area. Aside from being extremely arrogant.
They like to say it’s because people are jealous of their success, but Brazil has been even more successful and they are generally well liked.
Last WC a lot of people didn’t mind them winning too much because of Messi. I’ve been an avid AFA hater since the early 2000’s but being a Messi fan, I wasn’t too upset that he got his WC. He deserved it after the career he had. But that just made Argentina fans worse and this year it was back to fuck Argentina.
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u/Neon_Starlight 10h ago
You are literally this meme dude. Like literally. Say whatever you want, but Argentina is one of the LEAST racist countries in world. You've seen some racist clowns online? And you think those represent 40 million people? Tell me one country without a single racist person. We all have some of those. Doesn't mean everyone is racist. Keep watching tiktok IG and Reddit ragebait videos, and feeding off an algorithm.
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u/Daddy-Legba 9h ago
Yeah least racist team...just like when they chant racist chant to french team or when the fan said racist stuff to ishowspeed, or the video of the Argentinians getting rocked by police cause they said racist stuff to them or when they grow stuff to cape Verde fan yeah...
Did Japan, brésil or any other country did something like that ? No, it was Argentina
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u/locayboluda 1h ago
The problem we have is that the football culture is incredibly toxic, people insult each other here because of football too, it's not related to race it's towards anyone from the opposite team and they will say whatever comes to mind. It's bad? Yeah, but people are way too obsessed with the sport (not everyone, but I imagine those who pay that much money to see the WC must be hardcore fans)
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u/lessnames 51m ago
People miss this all the time. The see WORLD cup and think the entire country is like this, It’s so basic. Football fans in EVERYWHERE are some of the worst people in every country.
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u/barelmingo 8h ago
It's amazing how bias blinds people to the point of using Japan as an example of non-racist people.
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u/Pizza_bagel_IFA 8h ago
Brazil is racist as fuck lol I dated a Brazilian who thought she was too dark for me because of what she deals with in Brazil
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u/Careless-Cap7691 8h ago edited 8h ago
You are getting near in the reasoning. But guess what? We all are racists in LATAM, even with the Spanish, who are some kind of bad mannered cultural mother. Racism here have another connotation.vsnd if you listen to angry Brazilians those are Lula fans, the kirchnerism of Brazil so their opinion doesn't count.
Argentina is the most hatred in LATAM? Yes. But it's at our way and people from outside LATAM doesn't seem to understand. We don't have real racism violence in south America, the Police won't shoot you because you are black (they might but for other reasons) .
What makes me uncomfortable is to listen people who have no idea how to live in LATAM judging us. They will never understand our way to relate and this hate camping is just stupid, because ok, they can hate, but it's just not ok to not fact check stuff.
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u/Single-Violinist-639 15h ago edited 15h ago
I live in the US, specifically the city of Los angeles, and I'm surrounded by mexicans.
You'd swear that mexico and Argentina have gone to multiple wars with each other ala Germany and France in the world wars by how they talk about argentians lol.
Like chill bro, you've never even met a single argentian in your whole life lol.
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u/OnlyAShip 12h ago
There’s a fake online engagement-bait rivalry invented by Mexican newscasters because Argentina knocked them out a few times.
Not surprised to hear Mexican-Americans who are even more reliant on the internet for a connection to Mexico are all up over it.
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u/Extreme-Accident-968 12h ago
fyi... they always get knock out in round of 8 or before
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u/Heavy-Maintenance712 12h ago
Como una gran autocrítica hacia argentina, si hubieron casos reportados de racismo de argentinos en México hacia los mexicanos, pero esos casos se cuentan con los dedos de las manos, el único que me se es de una mujer que había nacido en argentina pero no había vivido casi nada de tiempo en argentina y nisiquiera tenía el acento argentino, esos casos que suelen ser aislados genera odio hacia un país entero solo por unos cuantos estúpidos mal educados, por el lado de argentina, acá nunca se habla de México ni de los mexicanos y de las pocas veces que se habla de México, se habla bien de ellos, no mal.
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u/CandidConflict3726 10h ago
Juzgar a millones de personas por las acciones de unos pocos siempre termina creando más división que soluciones. 🙌
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u/TheMagicSebas 14h ago
Los mexicanos quieren autopercivirse como un "clásico" o un rival importante ante nosotros pero en realidad nadie de Argentina avala esa rivalidad porque históricamente les ganamos sin problemas, entonces nos insultan diciendo que nos morimos de hambre, que todos nuestros presidentes son corruptos o que trabajamos de meseros en México porque tienen el honor herido ya que no tienen forma de insultarnos o burlarse de nosotros en lo futbolistico.
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u/cocovacado 12h ago
Is it true that Argentinians don’t like to be called “Latino/Latina”?
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u/OnlyAShip 11h ago edited 10h ago
Most Latin Americans who are actually from there think of themselves as their nationality first, not “Latino”. Argentines are just farther from most from the popular global image of what is Latino so they identify with the Argentine part even more. But they know they live in Latin America and know they are Latino.
Meanwhile the European thing is from a generation that WAS European (Buenos Aires was majority foreign-born, these were literal European-born people). The Argentines who once said “I’m not Latino, I’m European” were literal Englishmen, Poles, and Italians walking around Buenos Aires. That’s not Argentina anymore.
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u/Gaby292 12h ago
No it is NOT true. You will never hear an Argentinean call themselves european, we are latinos, many of us of european descent, but LATINOS. However according to Mexicans we are always claiming that we are European and that we think we are better than them because of that (they project their own insecurities on us).
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u/ThreeMeanGoblins 8h ago
Some won't but pretty sure it's not the majority. It takes a very specific kind of obtuse to draw a line between the argentinian identity and the latino identity. The ones that do are, ironically, the most colonized of all, because at some point they must've bought the colonist's tale of "euro=superior" and never realized that argentina is the result of mortally cheap labor and political puppets, the same as our neighbors. A single trip to the north of our country makes you realize we share roots with every latino ever, we just dress the capital city in european garb.
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u/mapache-clandestino 10h ago
No puedo hablar por todos los argentinos pero no conozco a ninguno que le moleste y no se sienta latino con orgullo
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u/Terrible_Zone_0716 10h ago
At most you might find people like that in Buenos Aires, where all the upper class and the assholes nobody likes live, otherwise it'd be hard to find an Argentinian who dislikes being called Latino or who unironically believes themselves to be European.
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u/Willinton06 16h ago
Meaning the other half is cool with argentina winning
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u/BararTheDragon 16h ago
i want argentina to win to spite the people who want them to loose, because their reasons are shit
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u/veryblanduser 15h ago
Only under the assumption that 100% of the internet cares one way or the other.
However I doubt the original claim had adequate polling.
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u/Willinton06 15h ago
If you don't care you're cool with argentina winning or losing, cause you don't care
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u/MagyTheMage 15h ago
Mfs in this comment section proving OPs point by pulling random historical facts to justify literal racism.
Its like if i said "i hate germany because they were nazis 100 years ago."
Yeah but like, that happend 100 years ago why are we pretending like the people who are here now have anything to do with T-T
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u/wcarlaso 11h ago
Fun fact, nobody says nazis to actual German, but says nazi to argentinians because some nazis hided here 80 years ago. Exactly like USA, brasil, Paraguay, and Germany!!!!!
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u/Mattrockj 8h ago
"Idk, everyone else seems to want them to lose, and everyone else can't be wrong right?"
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u/Lpfanatic05 16h ago
The funny thing is that no one country crying that Argentina is racist have a clean story to be the role model they want to be. The other day I asked to one idiot here in Reddit, who was speaking shit about "racist Argentina", where was he from. His answer, not kidding, was: "I am not going to tell you, cause you will Google my country and speak shit about racism here, so I am not going to enter in that discussion".
So, you see, they love to point their fingers to Argentina to call them racist, but they don't want to hear the same about their country.
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u/b1eadcb 14h ago
That was the wild thing to me, especially in the England match. Like England somehow has this impeccable reputation with regard to race and politics.
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u/TheSessionMan 13h ago
There's a clear difference between being a person who is currently racist and a person who was racist many years ago and learned to be better...
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u/Capable-Surround-464 11h ago
the point is that generalization is terrible. Just because there are racist argentinians doesn’t mean its ok to attack the whole of Argentina and its supporters. There are also English skinheads and football hooligans who are racist but you won’t hear a smear campaign against them
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u/blaquaman19 15h ago
Thing is, Argentina is an overtly racist shithole and they are loud and proud racists too. Whereas other countries at least try to seem like the common consensus is that racism is bad and should be fought.
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u/ADDmind 14h ago
The whole country? Have you ever been there and experienced full blown racism from every citizen?
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u/Gaby292 12h ago
No we are not racist. We don't have KKK parades in broad daylight like the US has, we abolished slavery earlier than most countries and we never had segregation. Are there racist people in Argentina? Of course there are, every nation has racist people. But we are not a racist nation. You just swallowed a narrative built on twitter.
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u/Warsongmarie 14h ago
I'm pretty sure there was a white supremacy parade for the 4th of July in the country that's hosting the wold cup so I don't know if the other countries have that consensus. Specially since that day I was here in reddit and everyone was talking about Argentina's racism. And no one mentioned it.
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u/OrdinaryTechnician14 16h ago
No idea why people are hating Argentina. I guess only Brazil and the England have a good historical/cultural reason to hate them.
Seems like some people are just butthurt because its a south american team winning and not a European team.
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u/Way-Super 16h ago
It’s cause people are saying FIFA is trying to help them win.
Whether that’s true or not idk, but I’m not sure what people are expecting from that laughably corrupt organization.
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u/Vlagilbert 13h ago edited 4h ago
And because the players of their national team have shown to be racist, especially towards black players of foreign teams - notably when they recorded themselves singing racist chants against the french team due to their skin color. I quote:
"They play for France, but they are from Angola. His mother is Nigerian, his father Cameroonian, but on the passport: French"
Say what you want about historic racism from Euro countries - but at least their national team's players aren't gleefuly showcasing racism online in such a brazen way. Enzo Fernández posting this on his account thinking it would be okay is insane. And it wasn't just one player, it was the whole goddamn bus singing along.
Video link: https://x.com/dw_sports/status/1813162305254793615 (you can also find numerous news articles about the incident)
ETA: This is being downvoted a LOT, despite it being a slam dunk case of racism on camera. On an unrelated side note, I got curious and clicked on the comment stats - the 2nd highest country by views is Argentina. 😄 I hope you guys are as appalled as the rest of the world at your players' bigoted actions, surely?
ETA2: Found the full video link which shows the proof for the chant (towards the end). It cuts to the players singing "pasaporte frances", it's 100% the end of the chant. https://youtube.com/shorts/_IKgTwhzGLg?is=AmKnYltitfjWBlTE
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u/NooB_N142003 Professional Dumbass 12h ago
The video doesn't show that "racist chant" it's literally mostly about argentina itself, barely on the last part france might be mentioned, it's hard to hear. Definitely not what is qouted on the tweet, nor what is translated in the comments Source: i know spanish
"... porque esta locura se lleva en la piel, yo te aliento a que (aleso?) Pierda, no me importa lo que me vaya a pasar. Macumbero por estos colores, o selección selección selección [x2] (the song ends, and there's talks about what to sing next, hard cut to next part) -o en el documento, nacionalidad frances (and i cannot make anything else out)"
Any video is a slam case of racism if you make up what it says lol
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u/Vlagilbert 12h ago edited 12h ago
I am not a spanish speaker so I cannot argue on any of that. However, you're wording this as if this is a made up case or racism - which it isn't.
Here are some news articles from reputable sources reporting on the incident and its fallout.
These news articles actually report the quoted citation which you are arguing about: (or at the very least reference them). "They play for France, but their parents are from Angola. Their mother is from Cameroon, while their father is from Nigeria. But their passport says French.".
So while what you say may be true for the video in the twitter link, the facts are still that the bus of the Argentine NT chanted those words - at least, according to actual journalists who investigated on the incident. Not made up, sorry!
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5642830/2024/07/17/enzo-fernandez-chelsea-argentina-france-chant/
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/19/sport/fallout-enzo-fernandez-argentina-racist-chant-spt-intl
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u/NooB_N142003 Professional Dumbass 12h ago
Alright so from all i could find: there's no video of them singing that, the only video there is is from argentina's fans singing that, but there's no video of the argentine team singing those words.
Also atleast the first two articles you linked do not contain said quote (the third might, but i'm not making an account to verify)
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u/Fausto0904 11h ago
Where's the racism? It's just a typical football chant. They're only mentioning nationalities. Is it racist now to mention people's nationalities?
If you want to criticize the chant, you could criticize the part where the full version says, "Son come trabas como el puto de Mbappé." That means, "They like trans, like that f****t Mbappé." At least that part is open to criticism because it's a bit homophobic.In any case, they're just football chants. They're not meant to be taken seriously. Whether it's kids, elderly people, or even the most woke person in Argentina, people sing them because we're not as sensitive about those kinds of things as people are in other countries.
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u/00MacDonald 11h ago
I find the song Enzo Fernandez is signing racist and ignorant, but it’s less seems it’s being used more as a justification to hate them than the original reason. Why is Mexicos much worse homophobic chants gotten a softer response?
In any case even in the video you hear someone not clearly singing it tell Enzo to cut it, to use that one song to paint an entire nation as problematic is kinda dumb (same for the much worse, homophobic stadium chants from Mexico)
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u/OnlyAShip 12h ago edited 9h ago
Argentine chants are rage-bait, but it’s still an actual multiracial country (though colorism is a problem).
People from countries where systemic issues are worse than what people publicly say are extrapolating about a country where it’s moreso the opposite way around.
More offensive chants and higher intermarriage rates.
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u/Gauntlets28 14h ago
People are annoyed about Argentina because the government, fans, and possibly the team itself as well have behaved pretty disgracefully by needlessly politicising the match with England (for a political stance they have zero legitimacy on, their dumb attempt to colonise the Falkland Islands). It has nothing to do with any silly European vs South American rivalry.
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u/j_sickboy89 13h ago
We colonise? HA!
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u/AmbulantCholesterol 12h ago
The British complaining about colonization is a lot
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u/Gauntlets28 6h ago
Oh, so you're saying that there's such a thing as good colonisation and bad colonisation then?
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u/AnbuAntt 15h ago
The whole nazi thing and my country decided to give them billions for nothing
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u/Silly-Sink6138 14h ago
Your reasons for hating them is because your government is stupid and the nazi thing? Yeah im sure Messi helped nazis escape
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u/SnooWalruses3948 14h ago
I think it's mostly because their fans are racist as fuck, and apparently the players are too.
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u/CmdFerU 13h ago
their fans are racist as fuck
Of course, why not judge million of people just because of one of two people doing very cuestionable thing... seems razonable.
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u/Reivoulp 14h ago
Nah they just turbo racist
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u/AmbulantCholesterol 12h ago
And because of that reddit will cheer for Spain whose fans are the reason for the new racism signal in matches
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u/w0xic3 15h ago
No, their players are generally disgusting + racist (fans aswell) + unnecessarily aggressive against opposing players + referees turning a blind eye to all this. Also this isn't new, it's been happening for years
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u/Vlagilbert 13h ago edited 13h ago
A lot of hate against the Argentine National Team (not the country itself) is fueled by the fact that its players are proven racists. This is mainly due to an incident where Argentine player Enzo Fernández posted/livestreamed a video of the whole team in a bus after a match, cheerfully singing a racist chant against the french teams' black players.
Video link: https://x.com/dw_sports/status/1813162305254793615 (you can also find numerous news articles about the incident by simply typing "Argentina Enzo racist chant")
And on a more national level, more hate has been fueled by the fact that multiple videos have come out of Argentine fans being horrendously racist against the streamer Speed, due to his skin color. Saying slurs, throwing things at him, etc. Coupled with some Argentines coming online to defend the racism of their NT's players (which I hope is just a loud minority), it doesn't give a good look. At all.
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u/GoldenBull1994 8h ago
My best friend of 20+ years is Argentinian…I’ve known quite a few Argentinians. They’re people like everyone else—that doesn’t mitigate the racial slurs at games, treatment of Cabo Verde fans and general colorism found within South America as a whole.
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u/Jolly-Singer7418 4h ago
Really out of the loop here, what was the treatment to Cabo Verde fans? I only have the image on my mind of the argentinean fans aplauding Cabo Verde players when they left
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u/fggiovanetti 15m ago
That is the image. Overwhelmingly that is the image, from the fans themselves, from the players themselves. This is just further hyperbole and hive-mind mentality from Reddit. It's been eye opening for the manipulation of opinion online.
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u/Zealousideal_Shift74 10h ago
Argentina has been receiving these attacks for some time now; the World Cup is just the current pretext.
I'm not going to pretend to be an intellectual because, honestly, I don't know who organized all this, but ever since the first creepypasta, "Hitler escaped to Argentina," this narrative of Argentina as the world's hyperbolic villain has been forced. The old equivalent was opening the newspaper and hearing "Argentina is evil!", opening a magazine and hearing "Argentina is malevolent!", turning on the TV and hearing "Argentina is malicious!" And in the end, it's impossible for you to know, but the message is being spread by the same people, with the same message phrased differently.
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u/SpaceRangerWoody 12h ago
Just imagine if the US was in the final. Every country in the world would hate us...as if they didn't already
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u/argentana 11h ago
Argentina-Haters: Argentina is nazi!
Also Argentina-Haters: Argentina is Israel!!!
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u/daemmonium 1h ago
It's weird but we both received nazis during WW2 (super low amount compared to other countries, estimates is around 5000) and jews escaping wars and such (different inmigration waves).
Argentina has the 7th or 8th largest jewish population in the world.
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u/ResponseEastern1458 14m ago
Los argentinos podran ser muchas cosas. Podran ser cancheros, xenofobos, termos y hasta medio chorros a veces. Pero nunca una estrella porno.
Y racistas menos.
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u/Perrenski 10h ago
Been to Argentina. I liked the people. Although they’re a bit arrogant… I know it sounds hypocritical calling them arrogant and then saying this. But they’d get so discombobulated if I called myself an “American”. Saying that makes no sense that everyone is American in north and South America. Been to a lot of countries in north and South American and have never had anyone else say that.
Starting saying I’m from the USA instead.
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u/Srita-Sol 10h ago
We use "estadounidense" here, so you using "American" gives us pause
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u/buttercuping 2h ago
Yeah, no, that's bullshit, Latam as a whole hates that Americans used that word for their nationality.
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u/xenogazer 15h ago
I'll just be honest and say it's personal. My mom's ex-husband is from Argentina and he beat her and his mother told my mother to get over it because women need to be stronger than a few tears, and they had her convinced they were going to kidnap my mom's baby with him..
So I know it's not all Argentinians that I am against, but I really want them to lose so that that family will be sad.
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u/LionHeartedLXVI This flair doesn't exist 14h ago
I saw plenty of videos of them burning British and English flags on Insta. Does that count?
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u/Fausto0904 14h ago
I don't approve that, and every time someone posts about people doing things like that on the Argentina subreddit, almost all the comments are criticizing them for doing it and making the rest of us look bad, nobody likes that.
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u/Lifeintheguo 10h ago
Do you approve of the banner Argentina showed after the game that called for the invasion of another soveign states territory against the wishes of the people that live there?
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u/shbunie 7h ago
I’m sorry why are we in defence of an openly racist people that constant talk about stealing British land?
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u/Puzzleheaded_Dot4345 10h ago
As an argentinian, I agree. The amount of hate we are having is insane, and it goes beyond the World Cup
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u/AmpleApple9 7h ago
Never met an Argentinian man, but my father met a few in 1982, so I only have his word to go on.
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u/KING_of_Kingsssss 10h ago
wtf? who writes that openly without any concern. Unless, of course, you are from THAT country
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u/Thetradertraitor 8h ago
Lmao. I remember like 20 years ago seeing a stand up comedian making fun of Argentinians because they feel superior to other countries in Latin america. This is not a new thing.
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u/mercfanboi44 3h ago
I mean they did once attempt to hunt down and kill a group of people making a tv show because of a license plate covered in fucking gibberish. Plus people who have actually been watching the games can see them get away with the dirtiest shit imaginable every 3 minutes.
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u/SerchYB2795 14h ago
I've been to Argentina, it's beautiful , know argentinian people, have read and liked argentinian authors, like their food, music, culture.... But I despise their football national team
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u/Mindless0ne 13h ago
omg, i had to look this clip up and it gets even better ..." its ok your tears say more than real evidence ever could"