r/interesting • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 19d ago
SOCIETY Ghyslain Raza aka the Star Wars kid who unwillingly became one of the internet's first viral stars went on to become a lawyer and works to raise awareness about the dangers of cyber bullying and helps young people with their mental and emotional wellbeing.
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u/Subject_Candidate992 19d ago
Very fucking cool.
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u/OkAccess6128 19d ago
He chose some meaningful work to do after getting famous.
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u/MalaysiaTeacher 19d ago
He didn't get famous. He got infamous.
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u/archielotsofnumbers 19d ago
Infamy is the wrong word. He was a laughing stock and was very embarrassed by it
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u/Sufficient_Prompt888 19d ago
infamy
noun formal
uk /ˈɪn.fə.mi/ us /ˈɪn.fə.mi/
the quality of being famous for something considered bad:
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u/garyisonion 19d ago
and was it bad what he did? just being himself?
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u/TwilightVulpine 19d ago
According to the internet at the time, yes.
And lets be real, the internet didn't get much better.
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u/Neveronlyadream 18d ago
If anything, it got worse.
What's funny is that his video was far less embarrassing than anything the "prank" channels during their peak were posting, but people really embraced those.
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u/ChristopherRobben 18d ago
TBF, it was never the internet.
We were the assholes all along.
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u/Neveronlyadream 18d ago
It definitely was us all along.
Before the internet, there were tabloids publishing photos and articles to embarrass and bully people. The internet just made it easier to find and easier to bully behind the comfort of a screen.
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u/Morwynd78 18d ago
Of course it's not. It's just a kid having fun. That's not the bad part.
The bad part was the video getting leaked and going viral, causing him to experience traumatic levels of embarrassment and distress.
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u/MikoSkyns 18d ago edited 18d ago
Shared on KaZaa by his bullies and they encouraged everyone to keep sharing and make fun of him. It got so bad He had to leave school. Always felt bad for him. Never sat right with me that people found it funny. There was a lot of talk about it here at the he time because he's from my province.
Edit: I read further in the comments that he holds no ill will to the person who shared the tape and now the story claims that it was a spur of the moment thing and there was no bullying.
I'm not convinced. I think he just has a big heart and forgave the guy.
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u/Competitive_Travel16 18d ago
It absolutely wasn't. A thousand others had already posted similarly nominally embarrassing videos of themselves just screwing around having fun, but for whatever reason his went perma-viral early on as the epitome of such. So good on him for figuring out how to leverage it into a worthwhile career.
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u/alzee76 18d ago
This is so completely counter to my daily experience that I have to wonder if you're from another planet. Maybe you're one of them and that's how you interact with each other? I wouldn't know anything about that side, but as a GenX who works with a few Zs, they are open about the things they like to the point of irritation.
I get that you like vocaloid, but can you stop singing it "to yourself" loud enough for everyone around you to hear, stop doing the stupid dances in the middle of the hall, and get the fuck back to work?
Etc.
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u/KermitTheScot 18d ago
All of the Gen Z people I know are very enthusiastically open about their special interests. Millennials tend to be judge-y and reserved more, imo, unless they’re playing a character on socials. I think this false perception comes from the kinda of people who make content for platforms like YouTube and TikTok. There are fewer creators who are unashamedly excited about their hobbies and stuff and instead try to put on a facade to look cool, feign expertise, or just avoid being made fun of. Outside this prison cell of a network we call the internet, people are still free, and happy.
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u/alzee76 18d ago
Yes, that's my experience as well. The person I responded to saying they "don't even have any real hobbies, passions or interests" seems completely out of touch with reality outside of social media.
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u/XChrisUnknownX 18d ago
Life will always be a mix of personalities and occurrences. I don’t associate with enough young people to have a clear snapshot of which is more common, but if my generation (millennial) ranged from mute, introverted, and socially awkward to social butterflies and high-level politicians, I’m almost certain the spectrum is just as wide for them.
Does the behavior you observe strike more like absence of social norms that previously seemed to exist or autistic stimming?
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u/alzee76 18d ago
Agree with your first paragraph, people are still people, by and large not so different across generations if you ignore cultural stuff. As for the latter, I can't really say. It seems like the former, but unlike so many internet diagnosticians, I'm not qualified to even guess about the presence or presentation of mental health issues.
I can say though that there seems to be a continuously growing trend of self-diagnosis and diagnosis-shopping that started in my generation with ADD/ADHD and has continued now to include autism and other neruodivergent conditions to the point that I'm increasingly skeptical of anyone's claims to have or know someone with these conditions - particularly if they seem to "advertise" it. It smells like many young people simply use unverifiable claims of these conditions as an excuse to behave in broadly socially unacceptable ways.
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u/SleepAllDay1234 18d ago
Yep. I saw it happen to my university friends. They really like Umamusume. Keep in mind, this is like 2020-2021, so all the JP side of it, and another guy is into Gundam and other anime in general, but they don't really talk about it that much unless it is between our small friend group.
When we were at the university, we tended to avoid bringing it up since they didn't really want to bring it up in public.
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u/DisasterNo1740 18d ago
Being a nerd was not mainstream or normal at the time he became viral. He was being shat on and became a laughing stock. Of course nothing was inherently wrong or bad here. But at the time he was considered a loser to laugh at.
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u/XChrisUnknownX 18d ago
Makes you wonder if perhaps we laugh now at people who are just trying to exist and squeeze the enjoyment they can out of life, and in 20 or 30 years, some of us still living might realize “oh my, we were cruel to someone because of an arbitrary and harmless difference?”
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u/Xznograthos 19d ago
Well his moves weren't good but they arent saying he did something bad in the sense of committing an offense against someone.
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u/Numerous-Pop5670 18d ago
In a perfect world, no. However we live in a world where people judge by appearances. Being anonymous makes people say much crueler things then in person too. Anyways, people suck both back then and now.
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u/luckskywatcher 18d ago
"Bad" in the context of being infamous involves being immoral or causes harm to others. He doesn't fit that definition.
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u/Ok-Kick4060 18d ago
It sucks that a few assholes made him feel humiliated, because I and my friends thought he was so freaking cool. A kid unabashedly acting out his pop culture passion? Hell yeah!!
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u/clgoodson 18d ago
I dunno. A lot of us were laughing with him because we saw us in him.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 18d ago
I never once laughed at him mockingly, honest. I always admired the conviction he exhibited, and as an old Star Wars geek born in the early 1970s it warmed my heart back in the day. Still does. It stinks that others were awful to him and couldn't respect the effort and commitment he gave it.
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u/AmazingRefrigerator4 18d ago
Same. I thought the editing was awesome. And while someone shared his vulnerability in this recording, it was pretty cool at the time of the early internet.
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u/ilmater989 19d ago
"No, not just famous. In-famous. Infamous means you're more than famous. He's not just famous, he's in-famous!"
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u/Snerkbot7000 19d ago
Back then, people weren't sure how to monetize being internet famous.
Now, he could probably buy a fully optioned Toyota Camry with all the clicks from Youtube.
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u/RollingMeteors 18d ago
Back then, people weren't sure how to monetize being internet famous.
Not sure it was so much "how" as it was, "that you could/it's possible to".
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u/SoManyThrowAwaysEven 18d ago
YouTube didn't start monetization until 2007 and it was only fully opened in 2012. Before that you had to coast off donations and third-party services. 2010 was roughly when the great capitalization of social media started and you begun to see the exponential rise in "influencers".
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u/CovenOfTheDamned 18d ago
I know right? Turned his kryptonite into his power. Can’t think of a better way to get back at those bullies
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u/donut-reply 18d ago
And Ghyslain Raza is also an objectively cool name, despite the similarities with Ghislaine Maxwell. Sounds like a name you'd see for a badass character in Star Wars
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u/Rich-Reason1146 19d ago
Yeah, and apparently he became a lawyer afterwards
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u/ConflictedZombie 18d ago
Whoa that's so cool someone should have included that info in the post title
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u/PoliteMurderFox 19d ago
What a king. I'm so happy he made it through that hellish experience and is still with us today.
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u/AdSpecialist6598 19d ago edited 19d ago
He holds no ill will against the uploader of the video, and they are on good terms. He was young and the guy is a good guy that made a spar of the moment decision; and had no clue what happened was going to happen and had been carrying that guilt for years and things were also bad for said uploader. He also said that many of his peers weren't bad people they were just young and immature. Everything just got outta control.
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u/FortunateCherry 19d ago
its honestly very refreshing to see someone walk away from something like that with a more nuanced takeaway from their bad situation. easy for people to default to anger or hatred after trauma
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u/s1ugg0 18d ago edited 18d ago
Monica Lewinsky has done a number of interview talks on this subject. She relates her experience in a very mature and human way.
After I had watched one of them I had a new found respect for her and her strength to overcome what she endured.
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u/XChrisUnknownX 18d ago
Yeah seriously. I read that and I was like “what the fuck? People actually think?”
This is a frightening possibility. Everyone else might not be NPCs. I might not be the main character.
(Joke. Enjoy your day. 🫂 )
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u/hamfist_ofthenorth 19d ago edited 18d ago
No ill will now, but I remember when this happened, this video circulated the internet before youtube if I remember correctly. Just like, random portal sites like ebaums and whatnot.
I was a sophomore or freshman in highschool maybe 2003 or 4?, and I was taking a TV Production class as my fun elective. The teacher taught us a lesson about this the first day. It had just happened the year before or something. Showed us the video on the big box TV hooked to his desktop, we all laughed, and then he issued a massive tonal shift and told us that this kid didn't go back to that school after this happened. Told us about the dangers of this new concept called "going viral" and how once something goes online, it is never lost no matter what you're gonna try to do.
That's great news and I'd heard he turned it around into a positive, but there was a chunk of time where this video ruined the kid's life. You'd think this would be a lesson learned by us internet users but it was really the other way around. Bowie was speaking truth when he called the internet "an alien lifeform," in that this thing is going to do whatever it wants, to whomever it decides.
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u/Masseyrati80 19d ago
Thanks for sharing, that teacher had their values set right!
There was a viral video in my country, of a man probably in his 60's, dumping (biodegradable) material on public land, randomly shot by a guy filming his personal exercise run. The man talked in an aggressive way to the guy filming and challenging him about whether it was ok to do what he was doing, and as the video was spread, the man became a public laughing stock.
After random kids started to harrass him in his home town based on the video, he became secluded to his home and died in undisclosed circumstances.
His grandson or other young relative, can't remember for sure later on came into publicity telling about how gut-wrenching the whole process had been.
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u/AdSpecialist6598 19d ago
Back then the internet wasn't in our pockets and everywhere and people were being affected it has gotten much worse since.
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u/TheMoonDude 18d ago
The guy dumping material or the guy recording that died?
Also, an you provide a link?
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u/tyyppi100 18d ago edited 18d ago
I think he is talking about "Risumies" (Twig man), here is a news article about it (in Finnish) https://yle.fi/a/20-273299
Edit: Here is the video with english subtitles (mostly accurate) https://youtu.be/03XJSrMpgoM
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u/illy-chan 19d ago
I remember when I was young and online, I assumed that, once people realized how exposed it could make them, people would stop sharing personal stuff online. At least on public forums.
Oh, sweet summer child that I was...
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u/-PineNeedleTea- 18d ago
I learned about how quickly something travels online when I was teaching in Japan. Halloween is a blast out there and if you're in a decent costume it's not uncommon for strangers to ask to take a picture with you. I had two high school kids do so early in the evening that night and the next day one of my students came up to me and was like "You were at this place at this time last night and you took a picture with so and so." I asked him how he knew and he showed me his twitter page. Apparently one of the two students I'd taken a picture with was a friend of his from another school who had immediately uploaded the photo. My own student retweeted it and then from there all of his friends and my other students retweeted it too. It was pretty eye opening how quickly something can travel online.
The other terrifying thing I learned that day is just how much people share their lives online. I was able to find my student's account again later and from there I found all my other students. All their profiles were public and they were posting the minute to minute details of their life. I could literally track them in real time. It was so creepy. That was years ago. I can only imagine how much worse it's gotten nowadays with everyone live streaming and being perpetually online.
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u/AdSpecialist6598 19d ago
I know I remember that time well we took a whole day of my film class to talk about it and the thing that stuck with me was how things can spiral out of control so fast and how things could not only mess you up but the people around you.
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u/Stock-Aspect3001 18d ago
Really gives perspective on the meaning of the word "viral" as something more infective and insidious.
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u/TrashPrize9991 19d ago
What a awesome teacher! That was very mindful and wise of him!
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u/hamfist_ofthenorth 19d ago
Indeed, he was one of the real ones, in hindsight
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u/AdSpecialist6598 19d ago
Having teachers that care about their students is so important. Many my former teachers were like my job is to educate you and make sure you are better person every time you leave my clasroom.
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u/Brullaapje 18d ago
this video circulated the internet before youtube if I remember correctly.
Old woman here (49) you are right, it was a thing on forums. Especially the Flood forum on bungie.net. Back then there was ill will.
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u/Long_Situation_5020 19d ago
He knew he was doing something that would humiliate the kid, even if he didn't know it would go so far. Glad Raza made his life better as a result.
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u/Ok-Kick4060 18d ago
I doubt that he’ll see this, but Star Wars Kid was a hero to my social circle - mostly older media nerds with varying degrees of success and name-recognition. One friend even made t-shirts, which we wore proudly and unironically. So great to see he’s doing well.
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u/CrankyOldDude 19d ago
It’s more charitable than I would have been if it was me or my kids who were targeted. The kid who shared the video did so with the full intent of humiliating Ghyslain, but “only” had his peers in high school in mind as an audience. Can’t imagine what the poor guy went through.
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u/raknor88 18d ago
Everything just got outta control.
Also, the internet was still very new and no one really understood what would happen if someone or something went viral. Even if the tern "viral" didn't exist yet.
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u/mia_sensual 19d ago
Turning the worst dat of your life into something thats helps other people is about as close to a real redemption arc as it gets
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u/No-Distribution2043 19d ago
Who knew that that after this Disney would make lightsaber fights worse.
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u/Strange_Specialist4 19d ago
This doesn't even scratch the surface for how cringe the things people post online today, just a kid having fun with editing software
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u/activatedcarbon 19d ago
He didn't add the effects. he was just playing about with the stick someone else found the video and shared it online to bully him. it then went viral and these edits were created.
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u/CowboyBoats 19d ago
just to be clear the original video didn't have any kind of video editing; it was just the kid spinning a stick around. the person having fun with editing software (even video editing products capable of that quality being available to consumers at all) came maybe 8 years later.
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u/Oopthealley 18d ago
imagine almost no one you know has put their public life on social media- the most are like heavily curated pictures on facebook, but even then, facebook is basically limited to college students with an active college email, and there is myspace that isn't really mainstream- everyone's just heard of it.
then a heavyset kid posts a video of himself jumping around with a broom. he stood no chance.
people under 30, maybe even just 35 can't imagine how brutal the social shaming was back then for things that have their own communities now. in many spaces, guys were called queer (and worse and in a really hostile way) for putting hair gel in their hair.
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u/nomnomnomnomRABIES 18d ago
then a heavyset kid posts a video of himself jumping around with a broom
As I understand it, some asshole bully kids found the VHS, stole it and put it online
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u/sSomeshta 18d ago
This clip was absolute fire when it dropped. The amount of work that went into adding the special effects at that time... Magnificent
I always saw it as a heartfelt, supportive dunk on this kid. Making his dream a reality while also making it even more funny to watch
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u/AccelerationFinish 19d ago
ITT: People continuing to try and bully him
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u/chronicnerv 18d ago
This guy has more skills than everyone in the Acolyte put together. Ghislaine Raza has earned his place in society by Merit, nobody could bully him if they tried.
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u/Dino_Spaceman 19d ago
I remember when that came out and became popular. I also remember the news stories afterwards about how horrible people treated him.
I am so glad he turned that event into a passion.
Good for him.
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u/AdSpecialist6598 19d ago
In interview, he said the worse part wasn't his former peers at school because was able to smooth much of that over later it was the strangers and adults being awful.
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u/kpingvin 19d ago
This kinda shows the difference between real-life social relationships and online ones. When you're interacting with people in person, it's easier to come into consensus in the interest of peace between the members but you have no such initiative when you're online.
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u/Tony_Roiland 19d ago
GHYSLAIN RAZA
Was he written by George Lucas?
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u/Lopsidedlopside 19d ago
Seriously, it’s perfect! His parents didn’t just pick a name they picked a career.
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u/Asleep-Plum-24 18d ago
From the far off planet Trois-Rivières
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u/TheMoonDude 18d ago
Idk, but "Ghyslain" is a woman's name in my country, and "Raza" is slang for weed.
Poor guy never stood a chance of not being made fun of :c
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u/HarpoonShootingAxo 18d ago
He’s French Canadian, and Ghyslain is a very common, exclusively male name here! The feminine equivalent would be Ghyslaine
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u/Capital-Pea-2565 18d ago
He's also Canadian (Québecois). This is great for Canada and therefore, the world.
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u/MaximumAd9779 19d ago
Does he know we love him?
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u/honeywhereismypenis 18d ago
His story genuinely gives me some hope for the future because when that video was released, it went viral because he was the butt of the joke. Internet culture today reveres him as an icon, at least the ones who still remember. We talk about how the internet has gotten "worse" but I think if that video were to go viral today, I think the wider consensus would be "fuck yeah, that kid is living his best life"
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u/Apprehensive_Ant4596 19d ago
That vid nearly killed me from laughing so hard back in the day. But you know what? We’ve all done it. We’ve air guitared in our rooms, we’ve danced, we’ve sang in the shower…all that stuff.
So why was this kid any different?
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u/Frustragenius 18d ago
Yea to me what made it funny was not only the hilarious edits but because it was pretty relatable.
If you haven’t played around and done goofy shit like this it’s actually sadder than being a dork with an imagination caught on tape.
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u/Forward_Win_4353 18d ago
Jumped on the sofa watching music videos using the remote control as a microphone…
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u/trusty20 18d ago
Early 2000s had a very strong stealth bullying side - less wedgies and beating up people and more making socially awkward people into unwilling clowns while pretending it was a fun joke. Being nerdy basically made you sexless in the mainstream, compared to the complete 180 now where nerdy is literally cool.
I don't think people hated him or like intimidated him physically because of the goofy video but he got a lot of stereotyping and people all over the planet showing him as a "funny weirdo nerd" in a "laughing at" vs "laughing with" way.
The 2010s+ change in attitude about nerd fandoms and being nerdy / having autism traits is insane, it was like another century almost 20 years ago.
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u/noradosmith 18d ago
This is really spot on.
I think things like lotr and got helped propel nerddom into the mainstream.
There are a lot of bad things that have developed since the 2000s, but the world embracing nerdiness is not one of them.
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u/Arthropodesque 19d ago
So, he didn't stick with the lightsaber. He could've been really skilled by now.
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u/mia_sensual 19d ago
Sounds like the kind of name Star Wars fans would accept without questioning for a second
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u/just_a_limit_q 18d ago
While he studied law I studied the blade. Little did I know the penis mightier.
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u/PaleFly 19d ago
He should be added to one of the films as a jedi extra. That would complete the circle of the arc nicely
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u/i--am--the--light 18d ago
Im sure there was a petition to get him in the prequel films.
Here it is..
"an online petition was launched in 2003 to get the viral internet star "Star Wars Kid" (Ghyslain Raza) a cameo in the prequel films. Over 140,000 fans signed the petition for Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith to show support and combat the online bullying he experienced. However, he was never offered a cameo."
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u/MajimaBuu 19d ago
Nowadays the trick is to lean in. Be proud of your goofy self and people will love you for it
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u/erocknine 19d ago
Having that mental fortitude and conviction is the best way through it, but teens usually don't
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u/Nagemasu 19d ago
For sure, the video literally looks like someone playing with a stick in an intentionally bad and self-depreciating way. I remember first seeing it when I was maybe 13-14, and always thought it was just someone having a laugh, wasn't until many many years later I learned how he felt about the video being uploaded.
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u/Forward_Win_4353 18d ago
*Self-deprecating
I’ve seen multiple people write “depreciating” instead: do you not know that word? It means “losing value”.
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u/AdSpecialist6598 18d ago
He was just goofing around with friends but once it was uploaded without his consent it took on a life of its own in the worst way possible.
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u/TwilightVulpine 19d ago
There's no trick but to avoid internet attention at all costs. Everyone who finds a modicum of internet notoriety has to deal with awful stuff sent their way, even if they are famous for good things, nevermind if they are the butt of the joke.
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u/Recursiveo 18d ago
Crazy. We all thought this dude was the GOAT back in the early days of YouTube. I don’t remember anyone talking shit.
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u/XxCloudSephiroth69xX 18d ago
On the plus side of that video...it did lead to one of the best running gags on Arrested Development.
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u/No_Mud_5999 19d ago
I was swinging around swords back in the 1980's. No judgment.
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u/epichuntarz 18d ago
back in the 1980's
insert homer simpson slipping back into the bushes with his lightsaber from the 2026s
I'm a whole ass adult who looks through his telescope and swings his lightsaber in my back yard from time to time and plays Worlds of Wonder Lazer Tag.
Who the hell didn't roleplay their favorite characters from movies/TV/video games in their back yards growing up in the 80s/90s/early 2000s? My brother and I would always get these nice looking wooden swords from amusement parks or fairs and we'd b ring them home, sand them really smooth, and would then paint them link our own versions of the Master Sword. Hell yeah we "zapped" each other from afar with our swords, deflected pinecones and sweetgum balls with our shields, like, come on...
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u/Kanopuk 19d ago
It's easy to forget that behind every viral meme there's an actual person. Back then, a lot of people just saw it as harmless internet fun. Looking back, though, he was probably one of the first large-scale victims of online bullying before people really understood how damaging that kind of attention could be... The internet has a habit of turning real people into entertainment and forgetting they still have to live with it after everyone else moves on to the next meme.
I'm genuinely glad he managed to turn such a painful experience into something positive and is now using it to help other people. That's a much better legacy than being remembered as "the Star Wars kid."
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u/BarelyBrony 18d ago
The irony that I still think he comes off pretty cool in the OG vid
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u/Zero_Cool_3 18d ago
The editor who added everything in actually punched it up with the lightsaber effects, sound and edits. He still comes across as goofy but all the added in effects make it a genuinely fun watch which lead to all the popularity.
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u/el_gringote 19d ago
Still fat, huh?
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u/kameshazam 18d ago
Hope he's healthy, that's the only thing that matters. Sadly, it seems that's not the case but I'm not his physician tbh.
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u/Large_Dependent_1621 18d ago
Cool, but he should consider salads
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u/DingusKhan9164 19d ago
The goatee wouldn’t have been my first recommendation
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u/NoStructure7083 19d ago
Idk what it is with fat guys and goatees. I had one briefly when I was fat and idk what I was thinking
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u/Oedipus____Wrecks 19d ago
It hides the double chin.
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u/NoStructure7083 19d ago
But it doesn’t, it makes it worse
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u/Oedipus____Wrecks 19d ago
Well that’s the theory at least
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u/oorza 18d ago
The only person you might be fooling is yourself. For everyone else, they just make your face look fatter, can't believe I used to do that to myself 🤦♂️
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u/PointsOfXP 19d ago
That's what I was thinking. There's a lot going on in that picture. It's like he's inviting people to bully him so he can sue them
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u/englandisablaze 19d ago
How are his bow and lightsaber skills at this stage?
Does he still got it?
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u/middlebird 18d ago
He’s nearing the end. He will soon lie down and disappear under the blanket like Yoda.
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u/HangryBeard 19d ago
That kinda makes me sad. Id always hoped he enjoyed the fame. I remember thinking it was a pretty cool video back in the day. But I guess assholes will be asshole and I shouldn't be surprised he was tormented and bullied.
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u/AdSpecialist6598 19d ago
The thing we have remember is that back then uploading everything online wasn't the norm yet. This was a private moment between friends that wasn't meant to be shared.
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u/peoplepersonmanguy 19d ago
He also dressed in a chicken suit and tried to steal woody to complete his collection of the round up gang.
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u/waltwhitmansthirdeye 18d ago
Is this the inspo for George Michael’s light saber skills video on arrested development
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u/Overbuiltbodoes 16d ago
I mean that’s a good noble cause, but also no world exists or will ever exist where you can post that video and not get some laughs.
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u/Slow_Bowler8285 19d ago
They should have included his name in this sketch
All Star Wars Characters Have Stupid Names https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbLqiKg9JkA
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u/alinairl 19d ago
now this is a cool dude! finally somebody with early fame that ends up doing something wholesome.
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u/spacecatbiscuits 19d ago
What's sad/interesting to me is that if he'd just grown up to be attractive he probably would've been fine.
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