r/gaming 18h ago

Japanese Charts: Switch 2 Surpasses 6 Million Consoles Sold

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2026/07/japanese-charts-switch-2-surpasses-6-million-consoles-sold
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u/Due_Teaching_6974 18h ago edited 18h ago

Mark my words 10th generation of consoles will be dominated by Nintendo again just like how they dominated 9th gen consoles

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u/LastAd4739 17h ago

yeah nintendo has way too much momentum right now and theyre only getting stronger

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u/MommaLlamaYamaObama 17h ago

That's only half of it - Microsoft and Sony are self-sabotaging so hard that it almost feels intentional at this point.

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u/mucus-fettuccine 12h ago

What is Microsoft's again? Is it the layoffs/closures?

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u/nightshade-aurora 12h ago

that as well as jacking up game pass prices like crazy

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u/Jitterjumper13 11h ago

Oh don't worry, they brought them back down to ease the burden on the plebs but still higher than they were in the first place.

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u/ThatOneComrade 10h ago

Yea the layoffs and closures are not going to go well for them in the long run, definitely not the generational fuckup Sony is performing but Microsoft basically fired their best talent to save the Executives from having to voluntarily cut their pay.

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u/swadom 8h ago

also xbox is now noticeably more expensive than ps5

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u/papoluca40 12h ago

lmao Sony about to sell 100 million consoles and XBox 30 millions. Stop bunching them up together. Is not the same

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u/ItsKingDx3 13h ago

I feel like Nintendo took themselves out of the "console race" generations ago and it has really paid off for them long term. They really don't even compete with Microsoft or Sony and that's a great thing for them. As long as they don't make any more blunders like the Wii U, I think they are set long in to the future.

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u/Jitterjumper13 11h ago

Wii U wasn't perfect, but it laid the foundation for the Switch.

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u/ItsKingDx3 11h ago

I'd argue that's putting it too mildly, although I think they really screwed up the marketing more than the console itself

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u/MuDotGen 9h ago

I agree. The console itself was fine. Backwards compatible, the tablet was convenient for some things (and even made DS simulation easier), and it was an HD console with some fun novelties of its own. Even had some great games. Felt imperfect but set some good ground work. The marketing was awful though. lol I agree, when it was first announced, it was so confusing to the general populace if this was a Wii add-on or a new console. Switch 2 sounds boring but it's amazing how clear a name can change things. It is THE next-gen console based on the Switch. No ambiguity.

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u/ItsKingDx3 9h ago edited 9h ago

Exactly. But what really makes the whole thing inexcusable in my eyes is that Nintendo literally had this problem just before with the 3DS. People were confused after the DS, DS Lite, DSi and DSi XL were all variations of the same console. A lot of people assumed the 3DS was probably more of the same just based on its name.

And then they went and called the Wii sequel the Wii U - which sounds exactly like the DS i !! And all this after they were like "we acknowledge we really fumbled the 3DS marketing, but we've learned a lot here, and we won't make the same mistakes in the future."

They somehow made the same mistake, but worse. I was like 15 when the Wii U came out and even I could tell they fucked up royally before the console set sail. To this day it completely baffles me how they let that happen.

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u/MuDotGen 7h ago

That's a good point. The marketing really fumbled on that. DSi even confused some people as being a next-gen hand-held (still a great device though that paved the way for 3DS features). Base console name + letter really wasn't being very clear. As boring as Switch 2 sounds, it honestly makes any variations that come out after much clearer about what family/gen it is. Even if you have a Switch 2 Lite or OLED or Pro, or something.

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u/Due_Teaching_6974 17h ago

Also Sony and MSFT shooting themselves in the foot

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u/wetpaintenthusiast 6h ago

The Nintendo bangers, the system sellers arent even out yet lmao.

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u/Quintet73 5h ago

Mario Kart World sold millions of Switch 2s

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u/wetpaintenthusiast 4h ago

The new zelda, 3d and 2d mario, pokemon, animal crossing, mario party arent even out.

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u/MewWeebTwo 55m ago

Mario Kart is Nintendo's #1 best-selling franchise and has been for 20 years.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 17h ago

Their sales are literally slowing down in every region, and most of those regions haven't even had the price raise happen yet.

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u/Nostalg33k 17h ago

Sales slowing from the fastest launch ever is obviously expected. Pokemon, Zelda and Mario aren't there yet.

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u/variantdot 17h ago

wow their sales are slowing down from the consoles launch? woooowwww wait wowwwwww

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u/Keaten88 13h ago

That’s to be expected, we’re out of the early adopter era and into the “i’ll wait till there’s a game I want”/“fuck man mom and dad won’t get me one till christmas” era

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u/Lil_Intro_vert 17h ago

Okay? The numbers don’t lie

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u/Johnny_C13 17h ago

Yeah but do they spell disaster for Nintendo at Sacrifice?

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u/Iggy_Slayer 17h ago

Correct, they don't. Which is why saying that they're only getting stronger is a wrong and weird statement.

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u/Lil_Intro_vert 17h ago

And yet it’s outsold switch 1, ps4 and base ps5 in the same timeframe “well actually, it’s selling less than it did at launch🤓☝️” be so for real dude

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u/_twiggu_ 13h ago

Name a single console that didn't have a period after launch where the sales began to slow down.

When a new product releases people are going to generally go out and buy it as soon as they can. Naturally this leads to sales numbers having a surge at release, which then tapers off a bit once the early adopters have purchased theirs.

If you want to actually use sales numbers correctly, you would compare the sales of the switch 2 over the past 13 months to how other consoles sold in their first 13 months. You'll quickly see that people don't say it's the fastest selling console for no reason.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 13h ago edited 12h ago

You all keep running that same excuse out when the comment I replied to said they're only getting stronger. Decline does not equal stronger where I come from.

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u/_twiggu_ 10h ago

A console consistently selling more than all of the company's previous consoles does equal stronger where I'm from. The declining sales you're talking about are expected sales trends, as I alluded to with my previous comment. If there was a sudden sharp decline in sales then yes you would have a point, but that's not the case.

All of this isn't even mentioning the fact that the switch 2 hasn't had a mainline Zelda, Mario, or Pokemon game released on it yet.

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u/Responsible-Care-388 17h ago

Yeah I've been saying this since before Switch 2 was even revealed lol. If we are talking consoles in Asia, it's basically Nintendo's world at this point.

And with Microsoft and Sony continuing to do what they've been doing, Nintendo can keep trodding along and see more success within their field. It's extremely helpful that more and more huge third party day 1s are coming to Switch 2 and ports are getting faster and faster.

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u/MuDotGen 9h ago

The fact that Nintendo's the only one who has not had to rely on allowing PC ports of their exclusives should say something in and of itself. Exclusives are true exclusives, so there's incentive to buy the consoles just for the games themselves, which consistently sell very well and are popular with wide-appeal. If they can keep their heads together to at least allow physical games around to at least some degree, they're at least miles ahead of Sony right now. They've seen the backlash, hopefully they realize it's not a good idea to completely go down that road.

Otherwise, you've got a very solid hybrid console that is currently the cheapest current gen console on the market with great backwards compatibility, and a reimagining of one of history's greatest games of all time coming out later this year. The ball is in their court right now, so hope they don't flub it up.

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u/thehideousheart 9h ago

Yeah I've been saying this since...

Have you?

Are we supposed to know who you are and what opinions you've held up to this point?

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u/locke_5 17h ago

Yup, with other platforms becoming prohibitively expensive + "ball and gun" games coming to Switch 2, I could definitely see an outcome where PS becomes the "enthusiast" hardware and Switch 2 becomes the "default" console.

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u/eldhand 18h ago

And 7th generation. 

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u/EldenBJ 12h ago

Fanboys are coping so hard and now trying to bandwagon with Steambox, but it's silly. The next gen is already fucked and we've already peaked in graphics/fidelity under a reasonable budget. Nintendo, while raising prices and introducing game key cards (which aren't even that bad imo, especially compared to what Sony wants to do), is at least using their money to HELP THEIR DEVS (giving them raises and not laying them off in droves *cough*fuckMicrosoft*cough*).

This has got to be one of the biggest fumbles in gaming.

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u/cornonthekopp 9h ago

I really do hope that the steamdeck does well, and that sony and microsoft somehow stop shooting themselves in the face.

The fact of the matter is that if nintendo becomes a de-facto monopoly, they will enshittify just like everyone else. If playstation truly dies then I would expect to see a lot more nintendo games looking sloppy and unfinished just like pokemon has for the past decade, and I’d also bet on the prices for new games going up to 80$ as the new baseline too

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u/lyam23 1h ago

One of the best console gaming generations had the most competition, the Sixth Generation.

Sega Dreamcast (1998), Sony PlayStation 2 (2000), Nintendo GameCube (2001), Microsoft Xbox (2001)

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u/papoluca40 12h ago

But I thought Sony had a Monopoly? What happened to that?

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u/d3lly 11h ago

6 million seems oddly specific for an early stat

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u/themangastand 10h ago

Probably because bigger consoles will be like 1200 dollars. No one will be able to afford next console gen

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u/Pacu99 5h ago

Just hoping I get to play SOMETHING, I've been having only Mario Kart for a year

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u/BuddyRedSkull 4h ago

Donkey Kong Bananza and Pokopia are a lot of fun.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 18h ago

That's going to be with a huge asterisk because they're all doing pretty poorly right now. Even switch 2 has fallen off a cliff in japan for the last 2 months after the price raise over there. They went from averaging 90k a week this whole year to 25-27k a week since the raise.

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u/Admirable-War-7594 17h ago

I just want you to know that video game consoles are not something you buy every week, and it would be weird if the sales for one of the fastest selling consoles of all time kept going up every week even after basically everyone has the consoel

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u/Iggy_Slayer 17h ago

The stats are the stats. Again for the entire year they averaged 90k systems a week in japan and then ever since the price raise went into effect it dropped to a number that's lower than any single week pre-raise over there. Previous single lowest week was 45k and they do 23-33k now.

The price raise crippled them. And it will likely get more price raises as nintendo isn't immune to what's going on in the world.

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u/sopheroo 14h ago

Watch the four next weeks. Splatoon Raiders's coming

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u/xanas263 18h ago

The price hasn't risen yet.

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u/Hiur 18h ago

The increase in Japan happened on 25.05, the one in September is for the rest of the world.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 18h ago

Yes it has in japan. It went up almost 2 months ago in late may.

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u/Guilty_Department501 12h ago

Although I do think the Switch 2 sales are effected, I don't think it's the fall off you think it is. Switch 2 sales skyrocked in Japan to over holiday numbers because a ton of Japanese were rushing out to buy it before the price rise. A ton of people who wanted it at that moment got it.

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u/defunctscrunko 2h ago

call it doing poor is insane tho lol

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u/ZelphtheGreatest 15h ago

Tbh switch 2 is just really good value atm, compared to the other consoles

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u/YourMomIsCool96 18h ago

I'm happy about that cause more consoles sold = more games on that thing

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u/WrenReverie 15h ago

Honestly, I think they are waiting on announcing a lot of games at the same time the price increase happens.

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u/mucus-fettuccine 11h ago

Interesting theory. We're still waiting for the 3D Mario and probably the next Smash Bros. It may be strategically timed.

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u/WrenReverie 10h ago

As much as I'd love a new Smash Bros, I don't think Sakurai has another in him.

The guy who leaked OoT Remake and Star Fox says we are getting a Super Metroid Remake and a Metroid Dread remake.

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u/mucus-fettuccine 10h ago

METROID DREAD REMAKE? Surely you mean sequel.

If so that's extremely hype.

A Super Metroid remake with only graphics, movement, and boss fights updated would be incredible. The map is perfection and doesn't need to be changed.

Still, that isn't the most popular franchise right now, sadly.

As much as I'd love a new Smash Bros, I don't think Sakurai has another in him

Don't know where I heard it, but supposedly Air Riders was one personal project he requested and was allowed before moving on to Smash Bros.

Whether or not he has it in him, it will surely come. Even if that means a different director taking the reins. It's way too big.

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u/WrenReverie 9h ago

Yeah I meant sequel, I need to quit posting while nodding off.

As far as the Super Metroid remake, I wouldnt be against them adding some stuff. The game is already perfect even in it's pixel art. A mix up would be nice.

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u/MuDotGen 9h ago

Nah, Sakurai has never stated he intends to work on a new Smash Bros. game, even after Kirby Air Riders. To my knowledge at least. I remember him stating with a lot of finality how he doesn't intend to make another Smash, but someone else could. I just think it would be a good time to try a new game genre that uses all of Nintendo's IPs. A new spin-off series perhaps. That way you can keep the scope manageable as a new type of game but with the appeal of Smash bringing the many IPs together. It can help forge a new identity without Sakurai while not taking many years just to get something out.

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u/Avocado_Kai 5h ago

Mario Kart has been slowly introducing new folks at least. A Mario Party II like crossover game could be neat. In that not only do you get a crossover party game, but everyone gets a different themed outfit per board.

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u/bobvella 4h ago

You don't think they want a bigger install base asap? They make coin off 3rd party too from their store

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u/weinerschnitzelboy 3h ago

That's the idea, but honestly I'm not finding my Switch 2 very compelling. I don't know if it's just the state I'm in currently with work and my personal life, but my Switch 2 has been sitting in it's dock for months now. I haven't played Mario Kart in a while and I didn't feel compelled to finish Donkey Kong Bananza since gameplay is just way too repetitive

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u/Jedzelex 17h ago

Japan is the 3rd most important video game market after the US and China.

Which makes it perplexing why Sony decided not to focus on it as they use to do years ago. To the point that they switched operations to the US.

I wonder if them making a PS6 handheld means they'll try to recapture that market with it?

Could be.

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u/DarkKnightRises360 16h ago

Sony looked at the success of Naughty Dog and Santa Monica, and decided "we want ALL our studios doing this" and now they're in a spot where almost everyone in their arsenal is just making very westernised experiences.

They've completely lost their Japanese flair, where before it was small but noticeable.

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u/axialage 9h ago

They're making very westernised experiences, but also very slowly. The problem with the Cinematic Sony Game genre is that they take forever to make. It feels like Nintendo has bumped more 1st or 2nd party stuff out the door in the first year or so of the Switch 2's life than Sony has over the entire 6 year run of the PS5.

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u/Donnicton 3h ago

They've completely lost their Japanese flair, where before it was small but noticeable.

I personally haven't forgiven them for killing Japan Studio, especially as someone who doesnt really care about Astro Bot.

So much talent and so many fun ideas and properties mismanaged during and after.

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u/FewAdvertising9647 17h ago

Which makes it perplexing why Sony decided not to focus on it as they use to do years ago.

because they wanted to capitalize on destroying the xbox one with the PS4.

that generation is when sony sacrificed its handheld division to become the home console leader, while on the flipside, nintendo sacrificed its home console division, to run nearly uncontested in handhelds.

the decision was not wrong, for either company.

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u/Jedzelex 17h ago

nintendo sacrificed its home console division, to run nearly uncontested in handhelds.

Except that they didn't "sacrifice" a thing. The Switch and Switch 2 are hybrid consoles.

Basically, they offer both a home and a handheld console in one.

the decision was not wrong, for either company.

Sony became the market leader by spending millions on an "arms race" that led them to a point of no return. Where they can't pump out the same amount of AAA games as they did in the previous generations. Because of how expensive it is.

They then tried to find a way to earn revenue by way or developing live service games. But that side hustle mostly failed. Big.

Even MS, with their deep pockets, have had to cut back to stay out of the red.

Now they're trying to go all digital with the PS6 in order to secure 30% to 100% from each game sold digitally. Again, to continue being relevant in a very expensive AAA market.

So you're opinion that they made the right choice... well, that's debatable.

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u/FewAdvertising9647 17h ago edited 17h ago

Except that they didn't "sacrifice" a thing. The Switch and Switch 2 are hybrid consoles.

its more on how Nintendo handled the WiiU vs the 3DS. both flopped at the start, but one recovered. the switch didn't exist when sony made the PS4/Vita decision tree. Vita was effectively long dead by the launch of the switch.

For example, Smash has never been on handheld... till the 3DS. It shows nintendo cared way more making the handhelds better than the reverse, like mainline pokemon hitting the home console.

On the latter part, you're talking about the wrong part of the generation when the decisions happened. What theyre doing NOW is completely different than what they did in 2014, the inflection point on which both companies started to make this decision.

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u/Jedzelex 17h ago

They made it a hybrid console because it was cost efficient to do so.

Unlike Sony with the Vita, Nintendo didn't see the 3DS as a lesser console. Instead they had their A teams working on games for it.

For instance, Mario Kart for the 3DS wasn't a spinoff. But a mainline entry.

But having their teams supporting two consoles just wasn't going to cut it with how game development was becoming too expensive. Especially when the games had higher fidelity than in previous generations.

Nintendo had to drop or "sacrifice" the production of either the handheld or home console divisions. They did neither. They instead supported both but in one single package: the Switch.

They still make home/handheld console games.

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u/FewAdvertising9647 17h ago

your missing the point, the decision to focus more ont he handheld was made before the switch was a thing. like I mentioned, why do you think they even bothered to port smash 4 to handheld. Smash has NEVER been a handheld game since its creation up to that point.

Mario Kart has ALWAYS had a mobile option.

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u/Jedzelex 16h ago

Smash has NEVER been a handheld game since its creation up to that point.

My guy, why did you think that I previously mentioned that Nintendo never saw the 3DS as a lesser system? Of course it got Smash and Mario Kart 7.

And that all happened before the Switch came about. But when the development of the successor of the Wii U and 3DS came along, they decided to come up with a HYBRID console that allowed them to continue making home and handheld games. Developing just one system that would do BOTH things saved them money.

Again, they didn't sacrifice a thing.

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u/tagen 17h ago

sucks cuz i really liked my vita, the games looked amazing for handheld technology at the time and it just felt cooler to use than my gameboy, but their game library was pretty lacking and eventually they just kinda…. gave up on it lol

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u/FewAdvertising9647 16h ago

I think the vita was a really good piece of hardware, and extremely fairly priced for what it was. but Sony's lack of development of it, expensive memory, and IMO, sony losing Monster Hunter handheld games to Nintendo, sealed its fate.

To put in perspective how big handhelds are in japan, the sales of PS Vitas in japan are fairly similar to the sales of PS5 in japan.

that says a lot given I shouldn't need to tell you how "well" both devices sold.

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u/tagen 16h ago

oh that’s right, i forgot how shit you the memory was, i could only have like 2 games installed at a time lol i always had final fantasy tactics downloaded so i just kept having to juggle all the other games to be able to actually play them

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u/ShinobiOfTheWind 17h ago

Nothing is stopping this train, in JPN.

Part of this success is thanks to the cheaper regional pricing of the JPN-only Console SKU in the region in addition to the international SKU, and it was a genius and pro-customer move by Nintendo, in hindsight.

At this rate, they'll surpass the NSW numbers in JPN, within 2030/2031, and hit that 40M+ mark, before their successor.

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u/internets-a-mistake 16h ago

It was pro consumer if you’re Japanese. If you’re an immigrant living in Japan it’s shit.

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u/Alarming-Chemist-755 15h ago

But if you're learning Japanese as an immigrant in Japan, it's a great financial incentive

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u/EldenBJ 12h ago edited 12h ago

Learning Japanese through a lot of games is really hard because if you're starting at a basic level, EVERY WORD becomes a slog of looking things up, then trying to piece together the content of the sentence within the context of the scenario AND THEN remembering what was going on while you were slogging through looking things up. Just one line of dialogue could take a person 10 minutes to piece together. Not a very good incentive. Add to the fact that most games use terms and expressions not used in daily conversation.

Playing FE to learn Japanese is like reading Shakespeare to learn English. If you start talking like that IRL people are just gonna look at you funny like "pfft. Weeb, Watch less anime and learn to speak like a normal person".

You definitely have to curate what you play if you actually want to learn Japanese in any practical way.

That said, if you ALREADY have a solid foundation in Japanese, then I will agree. I have N1, for reference, and am finally at the point where I can play games with relative comfort (I still prefer English of course), so if your goal is to chill and play, then I really don't recommend the full-immersion method for gaming, especially because cutscenes don't wait for you to finish reading subtitles/comprehend what's being said. Books are far better for this because you can take every sentence at your own pace.

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u/Alarming-Chemist-755 9h ago

I really didn't need that dissertation on learning Japanese 😂

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u/internets-a-mistake 13h ago

It’s locked to a Japanese account. So any games or save data you have won’t work on it. It’s anti consumer. Try playing a game like fire emblem in Japanese with a base Japanese knowledge. That’s not gonna help you improve your language ability.

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u/Great-BottleGGG 15h ago

Launch lineup was thin but the hardware's solid. Once Pokemon and a proper 3D Mario hit it'll fly off shelves everywhere

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u/MuDotGen 9h ago

I think it's genuinely impressive how well it's sold until now despite not having a heavy hitter like a main Pokemon game or even an announced 3D Mario or Legend of Zelda game yet. Pokopia surprised many for how genuinely good it is, so the console has a lot going for it despite the economy.

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u/DarkKnightRises360 16h ago

This was unthinkable to me once, but I'm seriously considering switching from Playstation to Nintendo for my main console. I suspect a lot of players will be doing the same.

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u/Iokua_CDN 16h ago

PC and a switch and you got most games covered

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u/deedee2148 15h ago

Yep. It's the best combo. 

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u/petetakespictures 4h ago

Yeah, it's what I do. PC is my Cities Skylines, American Truck Simulator and The Long Dark machine with a bunch of niche strategy titles. Switch 2 for everything else. Oddly, I prefer Cyberpunk on the Switch 2 to on my 4060-card PC, I just love the gyro and portability and it runs smooth enough, and the DLSS oddly gives it a slightly grittier feel which I kind of like! Anyway, power-couple combo, PC and Switch.

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u/horrorscoop 15h ago

PC and Nintendo are the way, sold my series x and months ago and I am not missing it at all. Debating on selling the PS5 since it just sits there, but it will for sure be my last PS console

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u/John_Delasconey 15h ago

I’ve always been a Nintendo and then later Nintendo/PC guy, I think the weirdest thing to me about the switch two is the first time in a very long time that Nintendo actually has a console that can be a primary gaming device without solely limiting you to first party games.  It’s way for me to say that I am almost certain that I have more hours spent on third-party on the switch to the first parties

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u/horrorscoop 13h ago

Yeah I have some 3rd party ones that I know would perform better on the PS/PC, but having games in handheld mode has become more important to me with my current lifestyle. The Switch 2 is crawling up on overall sales so I’m sure it’ll start attracting more 3rd party and I’m here for it

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u/MuDotGen 9h ago

The region-locked version had a price increase as of May here though. I did get the multi-lingual version when it came out, but it took 5 tries in a lottery. lol Region locked version was 50000 yen -> now 60000 yen, and the multi-lingual version is always been 70000 yen. People have to understand it was never "cheap" because the original Switch was 30000 yen until recently, which was reasonable. Buying power can't be seen from JPY -> USD alone. 50000 yen is still a freaking lot, more equivalent in buying power to $500 in the U.S. here, so I feel people still downplay the fact that it was still (and is currently still selling despite the price increase) costing people above average prices for the average consumer, and still continues to sell just because of how genuinely popular it is, despite being x2 the price of its original predecessor.

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u/Ttm-o 18h ago

I love my Switch 2.

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u/OrangeJuiceAssassin 17h ago

I play mine every day

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u/GetReady4Action 9h ago

I also love mine. Was waiting for a “killer app” in the vain of Mario or Zelda to get one, but the pricehikes forced my hand and I bought one last month. It’s just such a solid piece of hardware that it makes the original Switch look like a toy. My only complaint with it is the lack of OLED.

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u/OnePossibility5868 17h ago

Nintendo are winning. They made a less powerful console than can perform when devs put the effort in while managing to keep prices reasonable in tough times. They dominate the portable market by being th cheapest compared to even 5 year old PC handhelds often with longer battery life too.

It helps them that Xbox is pretty much on life support going into major surgery and Sony are literally shooting themselves in the foot right now too though.

Hopefully this means more games come to it in physical form. It will be so strange if, after Helix and PS6 come out, that the Switch 2 is the only console you can buy a physical copy of your game!

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u/OhMyTummyHurts 17h ago

Smart move by Nintendo to stay in their own lane and keep making good games.

I will never understand how Xbox made the fatal assumption that having a lot of good exclusive games didn’t matter. Why buy an Xbox when the PS5 can play Xbox games AND PS5 exclusives?

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u/John_Delasconey 15h ago

I would actually argue that I many respects to switch to was actually them leaving their lane in a way that staying in their lane. The DLSS on the switch essentially allows it to pretend to be a console much more powerful than it is, and as I understand, it basically means that it can run functionally almost any GPU dominated game of the current generation as long as actual effort is put into the port.  This actually allows it to be a functional third-party machine again in a way that Nintendo consoles haven’t in terms of power since the GameCube and haven’t functionally been since the SNES.  Like the switch to is them actually more directly competing with PlayStation in a way that doesn’t make them leave the lane they’re currently in

Like so far, it’s been noted that third parties have done a better job making use of the hardware than Nintendo, which is unheard of for a Nintendo console. I’m aware that part of the third-party return. It’s also because of the tremendous success of the switch, but they also did everything in their power to make it compatible with these third parties on the design end.

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u/cyberspaceman777 17h ago

This.

I love my switch 2 more than the swirch 1, and with this new announcement, I'll not buy a ps6

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u/WrenReverie 15h ago

I bought a PS5 and played two final fantasy games on it that didnt come to PC. Didn't buy a single other game.

Never again. I will wait on PC releases.

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u/gman5852 13h ago

What an r/gaming boycott does for a company.

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u/juhix_ 16h ago

I was planning on skipping this console, but might just get it after all since this might be the last console to get physical games. Even if they are key cards, they're better than nothing and i can buy them used.

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u/defiancy 18h ago

I bought a switch 2 to beat the price increase but haven't played it much yet

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u/PlantQuick 16h ago

How come?

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u/defiancy 16h ago

Don't have any switch 2 games yet, just all my switch one stuff

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u/PlantQuick 16h ago

Any switch 2 you're interested?

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u/defiancy 16h ago

Just Mario Kart and Metroid so far. I still haven't played the second Zelda game from switch one so that one too

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u/CerberusZX 17h ago

Same here, but Splatoon is probably my favorite Nintendo franchise, so I anticipate getting a ton of use out of it later this month.

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u/Iggy_DB 17h ago

I will probably get one in the future for Xenoblade

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u/petetakespictures 4h ago

Good choice. Got my Switch in 2020 after being a PC user all my long life, had never even played a JRPG before, and was astonished at just how great Xenoblade 1 & 3 were. Just started 2, which I'm loving despite its obtuse mechanics and slightly embarrassing cleavage - I'm thankful it's an outlier in that respect. So I'm very excited for the next one. I'd say its my favourite RPG series ever, maybe even my favourite game series.

Also tremendously excited for Fire Emblem.

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u/Xyro77 14h ago

Switch 2 remains king

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u/EpicKri5 16h ago

I love my Switch 2. I also have an XBOX Series X and a PS5, but the Switch 2 is my main and I could not be happier with it.

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u/ExistentialRafa 17h ago

Nintendo being not that evil after all. Reasonable hardware price and good games.

Good luck Playstation and Xbox with their comming 1000$+ consoles.

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u/Konabro 17h ago

The irony when Nintendo is the one who wanted to charge $90 for a game. 😂

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u/djwillis1121 16h ago

What game was $90?

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u/yungsteezyyy_ 17h ago edited 17h ago

so… genuine question! did sony leave japan or purposefully abandon japan? like these low numbers aren’t making sense to me lol. what happened?

or are the japanese just over sony?

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u/OhMyTummyHurts 17h ago

I’m honestly not sure either, because it’s not like Xbox has ever had a foothold in the JP market. I think it comes down to:

  1. The PS5 being nearly 7 years old now
  2. The domestic model of the Switch 2 being cheaper
  3. Sony essentially leaving Japan like you mentioned

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u/MuDotGen 8h ago
  1. This depends on which PS5 model, but still, even comparing a 7 year old console it's pretty obvious how f***ed Sony is. Even at this moment, the Switch 2 region-locked version has gone up to 60000 yen (again, buying power, it's closer in feeling to buying a $550-$600 console, above average, but possibly manageable for average consumers), while its region-free version remains at 70000 yen. PS5's cheapest option is 55000 yen for the region-locked digital edition, but its standard disc version rose from 55000 yen at launch to 97,980 yen.

Which means, if you are a Japanese speaker, your cheapest options for typical latest-gen consoles are 55000 yen for a 7 year old PS5 region locked digital only or 60000 yen for a 1 year old Switch 2 region locked version (with physical media still supported more or less). Then you hear about the PS6 launching and delay your decision, only to realize if a 7 year old console is this expensive, you're going to be looking at at least a whopping 100,000 yen (we're talking like the feeling of $1000+ USD) just to play the dang thing. If you're a consumer, and you're finding out Switch 2, which you can play on the train and long commutes, at home with you family, or long solo plays on the TV with exclusives and high third-party support for your favorite series outside of Nintendo and the entire massive Switch library, it's just... looking like a no brainer at this point.

I mean, just look at it. You will be able to play Final Fantasy VII remake trilogy all on a Switch 2. Final Fantasy Remake, the high graphics, originally Playstation exclusive. That should show you just how far Sony is falling when their exclusives are really hard to maintain as exclusive. It's like when Sonic just started getting put on Nintendo consoles after Sega's hardware died out. I don't mean to glaze Nintendo, but you have to admit they've been pretty smart to really just run their own race over the last few decades, playing the long-game, while their competition shoots itself in the foot.

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u/Ciles 16h ago

Yes, they literally moved their HQ from Japan to America

Then they raised the price of the PS5 three times since launch and only introduced a cheaper japanese-only digital edition after Nintendo released the switch 2

Also, they closed their japan studio back in 2021

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u/Keaten88 13h ago

Well, the incredible success of the Switch 1 combined with the incredibly high price of the PS5 in Japan ultimately led to Nintendo dominating the region, and they continued to do so with the Switch 2, which regularly would have that insanely high price that the PS5 had, but doing that region locked ~¥50,000 sku helped Nintendo effectively secure the Japanese region. That’s probably why Sony came in behind them and did that as well.

Sony also just stopped focusing on what the Japanese gamer seems to care about, from canning handhelds following the Vita and ultimately having most of their heavy hitters, if not all of their heavy hitters, come from Western studios, probably alienated their local fan base.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 17h ago

Japan wants different experiences from the rest of the world and more portable experiences. So sony chose to focus on the rest of the world instead of a smaller region where sales have been declining over time anyway.

Like the weekly famitsu charts these days it's not uncommon for the #2 game to sell like 12k copies. For the yearly charts the amount of games that reach 100k+ have plummeted versus 15 years ago. And japan is not nearly into digital as the rest of the world, so the digital excuse doesn't save the numbers.

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u/FewAdvertising9647 16h ago edited 16h ago

Japans fine with digital, its just theyre far more prone if given the option, to pick the physical option if available.

Keep in mind, Japan and the rest of the worlds stance on Game Preservation are different, to the point that Japan and the rest of the world has at times, actively bidded against each other on some lost japanese game dev content that was found and auctioned off(Japanese have more of a, this belongs in someones private collection and should not be made public, vs the rest of the world, who thinks old content should be made public like a museum). They like collecting, and physicals offer them that opportunity. but it doesnt stop them from supporting methods that have no physical return (e.g Arcades)

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u/DeLurkerDeluxe 11h ago edited 10h ago

So sony chose to focus on the rest of the world instead of a smaller region where sales have been declining over time anyway.

Japan bought 38 million Switch consoles to to the 46 in the US and the 40 in Europe, despite having like 1/3 of the population. And if you know anything regarding the japanese market is that they have no issue throwing money at games (with the shit ton of gacha games in Japan outprofiting the rest of the world combined minus China). PS Vita lasted 8 years solely on the back of the Japanese market.

Sony just made the choice of focusing on the western market, and that was a stupid choice to make because despite of what you think, the japanese market is still huge.

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u/Iggy_Slayer 9h ago

The rest of the world still far eclipses japan though, and the markets are not very compatible with each other. They made the right choice because they've been the highest grossing gaming company for like 10+ years now.

u/DeLurkerDeluxe 8m ago

The rest of the world still far eclipses japan though

So you decided to ignore the numbers that say otherwise. Got it.

hey made the right choice because they've been the highest grossing gaming company for like 10+ years now.

Profit, on the other hand....

But hey, it's your fantasy world.

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u/FewAdvertising9647 17h ago

japan is mobile forward, so unless sony produces a mobile product, japan isn't as interested in it.

Japanese aren't entirely over sony, its just theres no sucessor to the vita yet. Only a small fraction of japanese go out of their way to buy home consoles.

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u/Due_Teaching_6974 17h ago

nobody buys home consoles in Japan

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u/Dawakat 12h ago

I bought a Switch 2 a month ago and I’m really liking it a lot. I got my Switch 1 on release day and played it a lot when I got it but I soon switched to my ps4 until about a year and a half ago when I started playing my switch again like crazy. And I waited a year for the switch 2 then the price hike was announced so I figured it’s time to finally upgrade. Pokopia is such a cozy game and been loving the Zelda upgrades too. Looking forward to more Switch 2 exclusives in the future as well

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u/Shadowsdeepx6 3h ago

Is 6 mil consoles supposed to be impressive? lel

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u/methiasm 12h ago

Yea, screw Sony. Imma buy a PC and then a switch 2 👎👎

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u/pr0newbie 10h ago

Gullible gen x parents and their grown up alpha - gen z kids who maybe haven't had enough gaming exposure. Nintendo have been very poor for at least the last 5 years charging insane prices for reskins or even the same games from 2 generations ago.

To me this shows the market's desire for a competent all-in-one console gaming handheld. Especially when the steam and windows ones have sold decently despite their issues.

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u/Ecstatic_Dinner_992 17h ago

I feel like if you truly want to understand the performance of the SW2, you should drill down to include metrics such as actual play time and how are many games purchased/installed.

I know a family that had 4 switch 1s. They played maybe 1-2 games on each and then abandoned them when they ran out of games to be interested. The switches then collected dust for years and were eventually given to other younger family members. One of them sits in a drawer in my house because I don't have any reason to get it out.

They didn't buy any SW2s. Which shocked me because they are very much a "Mario Kart/Mario Party/Animal Crossing/BoTw" family

How common is that outcome among the total number of consoles sold? Probably more than Nintendo wants people to know about.

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u/Admirable-War-7594 17h ago

That's common for a LOT of consoles. My cousin and 2 of my friends have ps5, my cousin played with it for a month and now he only plays fortnite on it, hasn't made a single purchase for the last 2 years. Both of my friends only played some games like god of war and spiderman 1 in like 2022, one of them switch to pc and the other plays mostly on his xbox.

This is definitely not a switch thing, this is common for every console. You nust see more examples for switch considering twice as many people have a switch than a ps5

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u/Ecstatic_Dinner_992 17h ago

right that's why I don't think sales numbers of the consoles actually mean anything other than brand loyalty among consumers being high. yet people act like console sales numbers means that their favorite is 'winning' at something.

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u/Alonsey 17h ago

Never had a switch one, entire family had one and they still play theirs occasionally. Got the switch 2 for my girlfriend’s Christmas gift, figured I’d jump into the deep end of Nintendo and see what they can offer.
The fact that I can buy and play cyberpunk on the switch 2 gives me hope for other triple A titles to make their way, turning switch 2 from a “friendly Nintendo console” to a true competitor to my computer. My PC will always have more grunt, but man. You can’t beat the experience of gaming in bed when you’ve got yourself perfectly comfy. Or travelling, or need another controller that’s built directly into the device.

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u/MuDotGen 8h ago

Honestly, I've been curious about the experience of those who jumped into Switch 2 having never had a Switch 1. At that point, you've got a huge library at your finger tips already (heck, the Switch 1 games may be even cheaper, especially 2nd hand), and already in the span of 1 year, the Switch 2 already has a pretty good set of games, 3rd party ones and exclusives, with some heavy hitters coming like Ocarina of Time remake and the new Pokemon games, Dusk Bloods, or whatever you're interested in.

Plus, the new hardware just makes the Switch 1 games run better in general, lots of QoL options like the stand being infinitely better, so the table top built-in two player experience is even simpler (and the charger on both top or bottom, so very easy to just take on a trip and keep it charged while playing together). Little things you might take for granted if you didn't have a Switch 1.

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u/jeffdickbutt 17h ago

I got a Series S as a gift and literally never touch it whereas I have a Switch 2 and at least one person in my household uses it everyday. I know it’s anecdotal, but it kind of happens to every piece of tech to some degree.

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u/mch84 17h ago

six million units moved is crazy but honestly most home consoles just gather dust while gamers reach for portables smart pricing and a killer game lineup always beat raw specs.

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u/Number1OchoaHater 18h ago

I don’t remember the others but I think it’s kinda low compared to the ps4/5 and original switch right?

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u/wicktus Switch 18h ago

It's higher than switch 1 and the PS4 or PS5 for the same interval of time.

I can understand your original switch comparison, but PS4/PS5, Sony is really not that relevant anymore in Japan

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u/Due_Teaching_6974 18h ago

They can never be relevant again unless they create a handheld

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u/Number1OchoaHater 18h ago

I missed the Japanese part, makes sense

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u/BuddyRedSkull 18h ago

The original switch sold 3.8 million units in japan during its first year and the ps4 sole 1.1 million units in japan during its first year. 

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u/geodetrain 18h ago

I think the ps4 has sold about 9.6 million in japan and the ps5 about 7.5. Switch 2 might outsell ps5 in japan by early next year if not the end of this year.

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u/BuddyRedSkull 18h ago

It'll probably surpass that after Splatoon Raiders comes out, Japan loves those games. 

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u/sopheroo 18h ago

Raiders will probably be the biggest release of the year in Japan

Yes, above Pokopia and OoT remake :)

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u/CaptPants 18h ago

Those are numbers just for Japan. In comparison, Switch 2 has already outsold the base model PS5 for the country, and just over a million to go to have outsold all versions of PS5

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u/DragonRoompa 18h ago

Couldn’t have happened to a less deserving console. This thing is weaker than the pS4 for god’s sake. No premium graphics. No achievements. 🤢

Need a PS6 handheld yesterday to out ourselves out of this misery.

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u/awkward_triforce 18h ago

Because graphics and achievements are the most important quality of a gaming

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u/_sharpmars 18h ago

Seems to outperform PS4 in pretty much every game while also receiving current-gen games.

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u/sopheroo 18h ago

Your PS6 handheld will be around double the price of the Switch 2, will not support physical and will probably have less than a dozen exclusive in its lifen

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u/locke_5 18h ago

You don’t wanna spend $1200 to play The Last of Us: Revisited on the toilet?

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u/sopheroo 18h ago

SONY HIRE THIS GUY

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u/Lavaissoup7 17h ago

"Introducing...The Last of Us: Remastered Remake Refurbished Restored Kiwami, all it does is add an extra door in some random building, now pay us 200 dollars"

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u/fortysix_n_2 13h ago

& Knuckles

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u/Hi-Finn-ate-Ed 18h ago

Switch 2 games look good. Having these lower powered devices leading in sales helps everyone. The bar for graphical fidelity stays manageable and if any games developed for the switch 2 are cross platform with PC you can be certain to be able to play it on a gaming pc from the last 8 years.

When graphics cards and ram are so expensive why cry for a more powerful handheld to be the standard?

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u/Caerum 18h ago

I played RE Requiem on PS5 and tried it on Switch 2 and I was pleasantly surprised by how well it ran and looked!

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u/John_Delasconey 15h ago

Yeah, the whole thing about the switch 2.  While it was specs or more in the PS4 category, it has all the bells and whistles like the dLSS and ray tracing to make it much more compatible with current gen games.  Like they all aren’t going to be technically as graphically impressive as the PS5, but he can still functionally play these games without developers, having to spend years gouging their eyes out trying to make the game run

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u/SPACEXDG 18h ago

Lmao keep coping its way more powerful then ps4 had double the cpu performance and double the gpu performance + more docked and has dlss a ps4 and ps4 pro wishes it could run requiem or pragmata and look anywhere near damn as good so I say cope and cope with the fact a ps handheld would cost x2+ the switch 2 and get nowhere near it

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u/eldhand 18h ago

who cares about achievements, you 12 years old?

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u/OldMoneyBurns 18h ago

Ah yes, just what we need after all the recent Sony news, a PS6 handheld.

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u/-FT_ 18h ago

Having less powerful consoles like Switch 2 and Series S is very good. It forces the developers to optimize their games and not totally rely on dlss/fsr

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u/Devatator_ PC 16h ago

The Switch 2 does have DLSS. Two versions of it in fact, tho idk what all the differences are. I know one is lighter

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u/John_Delasconey 15h ago

Yeah, which two is actually the strongest argument in favor of dlss as he does essentially allow them to make the console behave like it’s one generation more powerful than it is graphically

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u/FelPhil 18h ago

Boo hoo

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u/Lil_Intro_vert 17h ago

Lazy ragebait

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u/locke_5 18h ago

“No achievements” is such a millennial-coded complaint, nobody has given a shit about achievements in 10+ years

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u/Enchelion 18h ago

As a millennial I have never understood the love for achievements. I turn them off any chance I get.

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u/MuDotGen 8h ago

Same. If anyone wants achievements, why not just join the speedrunning community? The hardcore achievement seekers. For the average person, I just don't feel like they matter that much. I feel like if you have to artificially inflate your core game experience with a bunch of side achievements that are not really in the game itself (with no real reward), then you're probably not making a worthwhile game.

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u/HorrorMatch7359 13h ago

JP fans don't care about achievements

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u/WonderSuperior 15h ago

That's crazy sales numbers. Now imagine how many it could sell if it had any games.

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u/TheGreatTao 14h ago

Ha, the Switch 2 has an obscene release schedule. What are you talking about?

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u/EpicKri5 14h ago

The Switch 2 has plenty of games and has had an impressive first year. In fact, their first year could almost rival all of PS5's exclusives.