r/gaming 1d ago

Microsoft Is “Working” To Restore Player’s 25-Year-Old Xbox Account It Deleted

https://www.thegamer.com/microsoft-working-hard-to-restore-players-25-year-old-xbox-account-it-deleted/
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u/heymikeyp 1d ago

They're only "working" to restore it because of the attention it got.

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u/Ched_____ 1d ago

It's because of a solicitor

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u/Nixilaas 1d ago

Most likely yes, however it will make recoveries easier in future. Though not sure how it would work with the EU data deletion laws.

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u/Ched_____ 1d ago

They've been forced to give people their accounts back plus compensation in the past, they'd rather litigate for stupid money every time even though they know they're going to lose. The people running these companies are genuinely simpletons.

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u/Steve_3vets 1d ago

wouldnt call them simpeltons, they've done the math and its cheaper that way. most people dont sue over an deleted Account. If it is cheaper to break a law and pay the fine companies will so so every time.

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u/CartsOfDarkness 23h ago

Yea reddits ridiculous for thinking this wasn't a simple math problem for them, redditors are also ridiculous for always assuming they're the smartest people in the room even with just a headline to go off of lol. Microsoft sucks and is evil but they're not idiots.

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u/Raz0rking 1d ago

Might also be to keep up apearances.

Kinda in thr same breath that one needs to defend ones copyright else it becomes void.

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u/Ched_____ 1d ago

They're lawyers are just trying to justify their paycheck. They'll argue over anything because they're paid by the hour. And the people in charge facilitate it. Everyone gets paid, no one is happy. Late stage capitalism is a trip.

Edit: Not tryna argue with you btw, this shit just pisses me off

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u/dnew 17h ago

You don't have to defend your copyright. You have to defend your trademark. (I don't remember about patents.)

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u/ToMorrowsEnd 1d ago

More Evil than stupid in them. Upper managers in these big companies are all evil fucks.

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u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits 23h ago

, they'd rather litigate for stupid money every time even though they know they're going to lose.

No they would rather litigate for stupid money for each time people actually sue. Not every time it happens. Each time people actually bother to sue. The distinction matters because they are not willing to pay every time. If people pushed for their rights regularly, they would drop this strategy quickly. They get away with it because not enough people care

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u/Really_McNamington 22h ago

I think they also operate on the principle that only one in a hundred will jump through all their bullshit hoops to get to the expensive legal shenanigans stages. The system is designed to make people give up.

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u/kfpswf 22h ago

The people running these companies are genuinely simpletons.

It's kind of the opposite. The people running the companies are genuinely intelligent, but they're so wrapped in shitty corporate practices that their intelligence takes them full circle into stupidity. It's stupidity through ideology.

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u/khaotic_krysis 21h ago

You actually just created a paradox within their own intellect, I would argue that they are not intelligent if they cannot break that cycle with introspection.

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u/kfpswf 19h ago

True that. I just meant that they're not really stupid. It sort of takes away the danger of capitalism by just attributing their decisions to stupidity or incompetence. They aren't stupid by any measure of intelligence, they're a special kind of stupid, the ideological kind.

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u/HumansNeedNotApply1 1d ago

When they say deleted, it's usually not deleted right away.

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u/Silver4ura 23h ago

I think the devil lies in the details of Microsoft's particular phrasing when discussing the state of "Deleted" accounts

They refer to them as "Permanently Suspended" and "No longer accessible." I don't think Microsoft specifically claims to delete anything.

If you had a paid OneDrive subscription, anything above your limit is automatically scheduled for deletion after a period of time without an active subscription. (I forget how long but I know it doesn't exceed a calendar year.)

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u/Sir_Bax 1d ago

The issue here is that you don't own digital games. Since they are tight to account and account is a personal data which is subject to GDPR, you may lose them. You could theoretically have them restored having proof of pruchase, but people have to start demand ownership from these platforms.

There are forms of digital ownership which don't need account. E.g. Nintendo's approach with physical tokens (game key cards). But this can be done the same way digitally via secure wallet where you will own the tokens. The beauty of this solution is that you are owner of the token, you can borrow it, trade it, resell it or do whatever you want with it. It's anonymous so it isn't subject to data deletion and it's secure proof of ownership.

But again, we have to start to demand digital ownership. Not just renting.

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u/Zalvren 20h ago

All of that is according to them though and their user agreements have as much legal value as toilet papers really. You can always contest those and I don't think most courts have judged on this definitively.

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u/Sir_Bax 20h ago

Absolutely, I still believe we should push companies to do things which are already well explored by laws and courts. The thing is they intentionaly came up with renting to creat a new legal case which would have to be contested.

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u/Uilamin 22h ago

You don't own physical games either - in both cases you own a license. The issues that come into play are the ability to transfer that license and the ability for the company to terminate (and enforce the termination) of that license.

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u/LinAGKar 23h ago

Though not sure how it would work with the EU data deletion laws.

That would only apply if the user has told them to delete the data.

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u/Nixilaas 20h ago

If the account is compromised and the request for deletion appears genuine it’d complicate things

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u/Playingwithmywenis 1d ago

Why not both?

I suspect this was a major tech support F’up. Someone screwed up and then they figured they could cover it up with this terrible “excuse”.

None of it made sense from a security and incident response perspective.

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u/These-Reference-7277 22h ago

It definitely raises questions because when the explanation doesn’t add up, people naturally start looking closer at what really happened.

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u/tuenmuntherapist 22h ago

A lawyer for anyone else confused.

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u/HardwareSoup 21h ago

Got it, solicitor is metric for lawyer.

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u/slur-muh-wurds 1d ago

I don't understand who or what a solicitor means in this context. Could someone explain?

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u/ThyKingdomDecay 23h ago

A lawyer

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u/ManiacalShen PC 22h ago

Though I do think sending a steady stream of door-to-door solicitors to someone would be an effective way to make them give into demands. Just relentless pitches for new windows, junk food that funds children's activities, gutters, religion, and pest control services until the person cracks.

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u/Syssareth 19h ago

It was certainly effective in getting me to buy a ten-inch square "this is the list of types people who are not allowed here, and if I don't know you and you don't have an appointment, then you're not fking allowed even if you're not explicitly mentioned," sign, which I put on top of the "No soliciting" sign that everybody was ignoring.

...Though it puts it more diplomatically than that.

Edit: This sub automods swears?! My comment wouldn't show up until I deleted letters. Fk censorship.

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u/RizzwindTheWizzard 22h ago

It's a lawyer, specifically a lawyer that handles the case, talks to the client, drafts letters, negotiates settlements etc. If it goes to trial they'd then bring in a barrister which is a lawyer that handles the trial side of things. The US doesn't really have this distinction though so it might just be being used as a stand-in for the word lawyer.

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u/LordHoughtenWeen 23h ago

It's a type of lawyer.

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u/Aromatic-Heat225 1d ago

yeah if this hadn't blown up i doubt we'd be hearing about a restoration effort at all

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u/TheLPMaster 1d ago

Any now only HE is getting his account back, if you go to the reply from XBOX Support, you will see many other users saying they also want their accounts back (myself included).

We will 100% never hear from them unless we also go viral with this.

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u/Beneficial_Chest_954 Console 20h ago edited 20h ago

Ughh same. My gf's 20+ account also gone. With the same reason and we got the same excuses as well. thousands of games, email and photos of her family. No one gave a shit though.

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u/No_Assignment1857 22h ago

How did you lose your account?  

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u/TheLPMaster 22h ago

In short, i fell for a fake github page and installed a Session Token Grabber which instantly changed my Microsoft Account Details.

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u/pingo5 20h ago

same thing happened to me a few months ago(basically). the whole experience pissed me off so bad. you can't contact a person, you have to use this one form! and despite filling out a ton of info that only makes sense if you're the original owner(previous passwords, credit card info)good luck getting an automated response from the system! I never did.

the real kick in the dick was they kept fucking sending MEemails that my gamepass was expired. I haven't made a new microsoft account, too salty about it. lost so mucu game progress.

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u/No_Assignment1857 22h ago

Damn, people really suck. Sorry that happened.

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u/JamesJohnson975 1d ago

Public pressure helped.

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u/cycopl 23h ago

Unfortunately it's the best way to get MS to do something if you're having account issues. My account got hacked back in 2010-2011 and it took eight months of back and forth with them before I saw a popular twitter thread about people having Xbox account issues and posted on it. I was pretty vocal about my negative experience. I had Xbox sending me DMs on twitter soon after that connecting me to a Tier 2 technician and I had my account back within a couple days of twitter shaming them. I had called them literally 20+ times before that and got nowhere. Had hundreds of dollars spent in games and thousands of hours in game saves on that account I didn't have access to for nearly a year. Needless to say PS3 became my main console during that time.

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u/halfc00kie 23h ago

classic corporate speedrun: ignore, get shamed, suddenly "working on it"

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u/Mccobsta 1d ago

If he didn't sue them and win they'd not do shit

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u/grtk_brandon 21h ago

Nah, that was another person's account they deleted.

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u/Mccobsta 20h ago

For fuck sake you'd think they'd learn some lessons

Considering they've forgotten about the 90s antitrust suit againts them im not suprised

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u/Mr8BitX 23h ago

Same thing happened to Colin Moriarity and his PSN account. Plenty of people have lost their account and never got it back but he’s a known person PS didn’t want to look bad. Hopefully this and the lawsuit that guy won will start of what would be a long journey for seeing new digital rights ownership laws.

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u/SmegmaWarrior0815 1d ago

Fixing stuff after backlash is the least a company should do. Or just ignore the whole thing when you're a shitty company.

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u/Kevin-W 20h ago

This. They're only sorry because they got caught.

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u/Vaiden_Kelsier 20h ago

Bingo. They couldn't give two shits until there was a stir.

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u/EarthIllustrious8045 16h ago

Yes, after they are done with his account, there are 20k accounts waiting for the same that will never get any help.

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u/BuhayNiChin 1d ago

wait how did they even delete a 25-year-old account

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u/ccricoo 1d ago

So unless your post goes viral, Microsoft just does nothing? How does that help the next person who loses their account? Fix your shit Microsoft! 

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u/I_Heart_Sleeping_ 1d ago

Yes, sadly this is the reality of things. A somewhat similar thing recently happened with somebody’s PSN account. Only reason he got it back was because he’s a well known game journalist and was able to use his connections to get it resolved.

Imagine how many people simply don’t have that avenue and have had there entire digital library stolen from them.

It’s a really shitty situation and it seems like most governments around the world refuse to implement laws that would protect consumers from this shit.

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u/RollingHillsRamsay 1d ago

I know this is completely irrelevant for the most part, but when I got a false ban on a RuneScape account (Genuinely never broke any rules , no idea how botting even works), I got contacted back by a game moderator within 2 hours, and we talked for like 20 minutes. I explained details of my account and what I was doing , and he was pretty much just like "Yeah, sorry about that dude. We are giving you a month of free membership. Our bad." I said thanks for the help and I got the account back the same day. Didn't need any attention or privileges to get help. Just actual KINGS doing incomparable customer service.

I've played for over 20 years and this just happened like two years ago .

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u/lazys_world 20h ago

This is funny because it's a meme in the OSRS sub that you need to be a streamer to get real customer support.

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u/416Kritis 19h ago

Or gain traction in a reddit post and hope people don't just tell you to sit

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u/ShiraCheshire 1d ago

You see it on small social media accounts and small youtube channels sometimes. Same kinds of situations, across many platforms, creator asking for help and for people to make noise. But since the following is so small, it's not a PR issue and nothing ever gets done.

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u/Prior_Permit 1d ago

That's because consumers don't have lobbiests to line their pockets

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u/Turnip_Fight 22h ago

PlayStation customer support is worst in the biz, bar none.

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u/I_Heart_Sleeping_ 22h ago

100% agree. When I had issues with my launch ps5 they would outright close my support tickets before even fixing the issue. It got so bad I ended up getting a full refund and just bought a slim when that launched from Amazon instead of Sony direct.

Worst company for customer service in gaming.

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u/peepeebutt1234 22h ago

You really showed them that you won't stand for their terrible business practices by.....just buying another one of their products instead! that'll show em!

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u/eiamhere69 7h ago

Many PS accounts have been deleted

Millions of PS accounts were locked, when Sony were breaching various legislative policies and ignored prior warnings PSN eventually got hacked, Sony ignored the advisory, ignored the deadline and pretended it never occured.

They used the opportunity to locked all accounts many users never got their accounts or games back

Worst of all is Sony were never punished for the laws the broke, only a small fine for the data breach. Everything was pinned on Anonymous 

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u/MessiLeagueSoccer 21h ago

At this point I don’t even want to turn on my ps4 ever again. Thankfully the amount of digital games I had on there were very limited like 3-5 tops. I remember not knowing that a psn sub meant that whatever games you got for free weren’t available anymore.

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u/Saeuno 1d ago

google does this too, par for modern companies. any data they hold for u could be lost instantly.

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u/WedgesofGlory 1d ago

Apple did the same thing to my account that was compromised. Instead of returning it? they just told me to piss off and can't do anything about it

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u/Respawn-Delay 1d ago

Happens all the time in tech, unfortunately.

I recommend reading Colin Moriarty's posts about his experience with his PlayStation account being hacked, and the level of support he received as an influencer versus the average person basically being told there's nothing Sony can do for them.

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u/BlueGoliath 1d ago

Same thing in other situations where a YouTuber or Twitch streamer has to get involved for anything to be done. It's insane.

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u/MetaCognitio 1d ago

“Trust us with your digital purchases” 👀

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u/Sage2050 1d ago

There's not really any information in this article, most importantly what's actually meant by "deleted". A similar thing happened to me back around 2011/12 with my account during the Xbox360 era. It was hacked and someone bought a bunch of fifa ultimate team packs. Microsoft permanently locked the account when I reported it and made me create a new one. It took like 8 months of me complaining at them to get my original account back. I most likely still have all the emails, but I bet most of it was done over the phone.

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u/Mottis86 1d ago

This is how all companies operate. Only deal with a problem if it becomes a problem.

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u/LazarusDark 1d ago

When Sony announced the disc production end date, the digital only people were all like, doesn't matter, I have all digital! They refuse to believe it will happen to them, but this is exactly what can happen, you can lose it ALL. In an instant, for a number of reasons. Account hack, credit card stolen/issue, two factor failure or lost access to two factor, violating a ToS that you didn't even know existed, being accused of violating ToS in a way you don't even think you did, or just straight glitch on the other side that says you violated ToS or something when you actually didn't. And then... customer support is just an automated AI email that is programmed to reject and close every ticket and you have zero actual recourse to get the account back. It's happened to a dozen people I've known that lost access to various services, losing all their photos, or documents, or emails, or even games and movies and such. I back up everything and I don't buy anything I can't backup or isn't a physical copy.

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u/naturallysonny 22h ago

Microsoft basically told me to fuck myself over $300 worth of controllers lost by USPS and basically dared me to file. A charge back because that would automatically ban my account, lol. I guess that would be covered under ToS?

After that and another incident, I’ve fully switched to PC and have transitioned back to buying physical media.

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u/Earthbound_X 18h ago

How are you buying physical on PC? Older games?

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u/Faustias 1d ago

it's always like that lmao

local celebrity tweets about our ISP not working on their repair ticket, then it got attention. different celebrity tweets about badly repaired car, it got fixed the second time for free. local pageant winner got catcalled by the taxi driver? arrested immediately.

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u/GodKingDingus 1d ago

Yup, Lost my account because I used it at a friends house I'd already used it at and they flagged it as a stolen account. the credit card used when the account was made didn't exist anymore, or the email, for years, so I couldn't give a security pin or email. Called them and they told my I was SOL. Had to start a lot of games over, and stopped playing even more because I put so much time in just to start over.

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u/Kjufka 22h ago

So unless your post goes viral, Microsoft just does nothing?

Yes, on some other subreddits there is a post every 3 days, from someone who lost their account because Microsoft decided to delete it instead of restoring. It's been like this since forever.

Considering that this must be a small percentage of people actually coming to reddit to complain about it, we can guesstimate that just this year there must have been at least 50k-100k deleted accounts. That's millions to tens of millions of dollars in potential revenue if these people just re-buy their games again.

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u/GadgetQueen 1d ago

Can confirm. They deleted mine years ago during a glitch and told me I was shit out of luck. I had 100k achievement points and tons of games. My next account was named a very angry gamer tag. They did give me codes to redownload all my games on the new one, but still I was pissed and bought a PS.

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u/topmato 21h ago

They refused to even do that for me. Just an automated message.

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u/SparklingLimeade 1d ago

That's the goal. That's why they're willing to take bad press. If they can just not provide customer service then they can save so much money by making the department a skeleton crew. What are some upset customers? It's not like they have a choice.

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u/Falsus 23h ago

Basically go on twitter, @ microsoft and then also @ some big content creator who is chill and ask for help and awareness.

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u/Striking-Ad-6815 22h ago

So unless your post goes viral

That's the name of the game these days and not just Microsoft

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u/moritsunee 1d ago edited 22h ago

The world's been like this for a good while now. The true support is ran off of Twitter. While the official one either does not exist to ordinary people or you need to be a partner. It's just the norm to fuck the customer over now.

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u/_Kzero_ 1d ago

That's how all of it works. Most hiccups by big companies only get solved 2 ways. Social virality or someone in the chain gives a shit and actually wants to help.

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u/LEDKleenex 23h ago

Pretty much the way of the world. The standards don't change unless citizens demand it. These companies want you to think that government is inefficient so they can dismantle law and institutions that protect consumers. In reality, the most efficient way to make these companies behave is to have laws that punish them for behaving badly in the first place.

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u/LinAGKar 23h ago

That's what happens without consumer rights

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u/Wally__Mc 1d ago

Hey everyone, here’s how to get your account restored:
Step one: go viral
Step two: maybe after enough backlash you get enough attention for them to respond

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u/wolflordval PC 1d ago

Step three: Win a court case and get the courts to order MS to restore the account

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u/SordidDreams 22h ago

But only the one account. The entire process has to be repeated by the next person.

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u/A_Pointy_Rock 1d ago

"Hey Copilot, restore this account."

Wipes hands

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u/the_monkeyspinach 1d ago

Permanently deletes all Microsoft accounts in existence.

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u/AearieRush 1d ago edited 21h ago

That doesn't sound like a bad thing lol /hj

Edit: /hj = half joking

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u/hal-baleigh-6699 22h ago

Handjob?

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u/ThatITguy2015 22h ago

Sure, I’ll take one.

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u/pasta-knifeer 1d ago

Copilot: "I'm sorry, I can't help with that. But I have successfully pinned Microsoft Edge to your taskbar."

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u/jazzarfist 1d ago

Error: Copilot is currently unable to connect to your stack, contact your administrator for support

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u/Material_Ad9848 1d ago

"restoring all accounts to initial state. no games, no purchases, just screw 'em" -copilot

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u/SolisArgentum 1d ago

Harsh lesson in always keeping a backup. MS would rather folks make a new account and continue to use their services. The only reason this is getting resolved is because the account holder is an EU resident and has a bit more leverage when using legal support. Anyone on the US side would be chronicly fucked.

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u/torn-ainbow 1d ago

MS would rather folks make a new account and continue to use their services.

It's not even that. They have likely just determined when defining their processes that it is too difficult and expensive to properly recover accounts that are in dispute. So rather than have some system that requires employees and validation of people's identity and restoration of accounts, they just dead-end it.

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u/Crismus 22h ago

They don't want the public to know that Microsoft actually can see their data and that they give access to the  police whenever asked with no actual true encryption. 

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u/dfddfsaadaafdssa 21h ago

Yep. Happened to me with a PSN account I created a week before the PS3 released. Got jacked, got it back after a month of emails, and as soon as I enabled 2FA it got permabanned with no recourse. I only buy physical when possible so only thing lost was my username (I found out later my account was sold for a nice chunk of change) but it permanently soured by view on Playstation as a whole, to the point where the only reason I still have a PS5 is for GTA6. All game purchases since 2022 have been through Steam.

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u/Lantern61 1d ago

I have an almost 20 year old account (got my first Xbox in 2007) and I buy almost everything digitally, at this point. If my account were to get deleted, I would sell my Xbox and never buy anything Microsoft ever again. I would also at least LOOK into suing them for all the money I've spent on games, videos, and subscriptions over 20 years. Probably SOL, but I'd at least try

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u/EnoughWarning666 1d ago

I haven't pirated games in a very long time. Buying digitally through Steam is just so convenient and simple. I make good money, so it's just easier for me than fiddling with cracks and what not. I don't get a lot of time for gaming these days anyways, so any time spent messing around with that stuff really cuts into my enjoyment.

If Steam nuked my account for any reason I would go right back to pirating everything and it would take A LOT for me to go back to buying anything.

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u/RainEls 1d ago

Backup Xbox account? 

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u/maxgbz 1d ago

Yeah but the only meaningful way to get your account back, even if you're from EU is through the legal way, there's no special support for us either. I'm in the exact same shoes as the guy from the news and thinking about suing MS with a free lawyer but again... it's such a hassle to begin with ...

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u/TexBoo 19h ago

Harsh lesson in always keeping a backup

Which is probably why he used OneDrive... To utilize Microsoft as a backup service

This is what hundreds of Millions do, Google Photo, Apple iCloud, Dropbox, OneDrive etc...

This is their backup service, A lot of people don't have the technical knowledge to buy an external harddrive and make their own cloud

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u/CurvySexretLady 23h ago

To be fair, a backup in this case would have only saved their personal files. It would have done nothing for the games associated via digital license; the game files would have been unplayable even if somehow backed up.

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u/kingdead42 21h ago

I really wanted to know if MS deleted all the data on this account or if it was whoever got access to the account requested it be deleted (not uncommon for hacked accounts). I do think MS should definitely restore access to the MS services this account purchased, but I didn't have a lot of sympathy for someone who keeps all their precious personal data in one place without any backups.

He lost all his personal photos for 25 years? I keep all of those on my phone, in a Cloud account and on a local computer. Many of those are also shared with my wife who has them stored on her phone, in her cloud account and on her computer.

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u/Dead_HumanCollection 20h ago

What exactly do you mean by a backup?

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u/itc0nsumesmYMind 20h ago

ignorant statement

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u/BrianShogunFR-U 1d ago

Wow the bare minimum effort.

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u/Jeo_1 23h ago

Microslop noises

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u/Trixles 20h ago

Microshaft

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u/FriendlyBee94 1d ago

If he did not make this issues into public matter, they would gladly let it rot lol

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u/TheLPMaster 1d ago edited 22h ago

Any now they will ignore everyone bringing this up with their accounts. If you go under their response, you will see many comments asking to also get their accounts back.

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u/icallitjazz 1d ago

Yeah, im also “working” on that project my boss gave me. Thats why im on reddit right now. Unless he comes and checks on me, im “working” on it.

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u/Fortune_Cat 1d ago

Theres a fine line difference between slacking off cause ur boss sucks underpays you and doesnt recognise your efforts, vs gloating over slacking off whilst being paid likrle its a heroic thing to brag about

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u/icallitjazz 1d ago

Just to be clear, because i cant read between the lines like that. Which side of the line is Microsoft ? Because im not bragging, im making a joke about the quotation marks.

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u/Necronomicommunist 22h ago

All bosses underpay you, it's how profit is made.

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u/RAMChYLD 1d ago

And what about the person who had the same issue right before this guy posted? And the hundreds prior to the Brazilian lawsuit guy?

Microsoft needs to restore ALL accounts, not just that one.

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u/TheLPMaster 1d ago

Probably more like in the thousands, i have been banned as well for getting hacked like 3 weeks ago. Its good news that he will get his account back with all his memories, but they cant just ignore everyone else until they will also go viral again and start a PR Nightmare for them

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u/Appropriate-Berry816 1d ago

It seems that they care about bad PR. Otherwise this account never gets restored. They don’t care about anything but money

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u/Truth_Walker 22h ago

At least they have a PR team.

Looking at you Sony.

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u/Helpful_Helping_Crow 1d ago

"Working"
Really, it a press of button for the people working in Microsoft.
It should be "Restored" or "Never Happened"

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u/screamicide 1d ago

Got my account unjustly permanently banned after 10 years, they don’t even have the option to dispute it (they do but it doesn’t work)

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u/Ched_____ 1d ago

Wow, they're amazing 🫪

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u/Immediate_Quiet4354 1d ago

/s

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u/Ched_____ 1d ago

Correct

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u/hal-baleigh-6699 22h ago

Please bro I need the /s to understand jokes!!!

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u/MuchBow 1d ago

Reminder that these are the same f**** who would gladly handover Bitlocker encryption keys to the FBI so they can access private accounts of people.

They would go out of their way to let the government hack into people’s private accounts but pretend they cannot restore one simple account. This is the kind of sc*m that we are dealing with and trusting to keep our data safe when using windows or any Microsoft service.

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u/sugarklay 1d ago

If the FBI requested it legally, then isn't Microsoft required to help them? What then do you expect them to do, just get taken to court?

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u/1d3333 23h ago

Not required, apple has denied giving law enforcement back door access to phones for decades

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u/Thardoc3 23h ago

Isn't bitlocker more like the keys to the front door?

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u/BitGladius 18h ago

I don't know the full details, but: 

  • There are requests and orders. It's harder for the government to make an order, if a company is security/privacy conscious they should force the government to make it an order. Not all of them do.
  • Companies don't need to have the knowledge required to unlock consumer devices. If it's local to the machine and not shared with the company, the company doesn't have the tools to help even if they're ordered. The downside is it's possible for the user to lock themselves out , but that was going to happen anyway with this support policy.

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u/moritsunee 1d ago

You'll get basic customer support over a compromised account... if you have a big twitter following.

And if you don't then go f yourself lol. What amazing company. Truly the final form of customer service.

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u/spazface03 1d ago

Or here’s an idea, restore everyone’s accounts instead of deleting them.

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u/ManLegPower 17h ago

I don’t care what Microsoft says, they have far more access to our accounts that what they try to make us believe. So does Apple. So does Amazon. So does Facebook…. Etc etc etc….

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u/Sage2050 1d ago

There's not really any information in this article, most importantly what's actually meant by "deleted". A similar thing happened to me back around 2011/12 with my account during the Xbox360 era. It was hacked and someone bought a bunch of fifa ultimate team packs. Microsoft permanently locked the account when I reported it and made me create a new one. It took like 8 months of me complaining at them to get my original account back. I most likely still have all the emails, but I bet most of it was done over the phone.

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u/Revenge_of_the_User 23h ago

Microsoft is not a serious company.

I kept getting locked out of my email because my password was...working.

Some scammers would blast attempts at logging in, which would fail, and lock the account. So I'd get it unlocked, just for it to happen again an hour later. They aren't getting in - why is this continual lockout cycle a possibility in 2026?

So i looked up ways to address it. The ideal way is you basically get to make a second email handle, but it's still the same inbox and you still get all your mail addressed to the original email address. Because that's now the login, attempts to log in with the original name doesn't trigger lockouts. or something.

I'll never know, because multiple levels of microsoft support and I couldn't figure out why the system refused to let me set this new email alias as my default login. Their expert response at the end of a week: just make a new email.

The solution that actually worked? selecting "stay logged in" in my browser. not a single professional even mentioned it. Which I still don't like doing, but im no longer locked out because my security is working.

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u/Syed117 23h ago

All it took was universal online backlash

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u/demonfoo 17h ago

Oh, so now that it's turned into bad PR they're "working" on it.

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u/Frostsorrow 13h ago

How much of this is because of it being plastered absolutely everywhere?

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u/VikingSven82 5h ago

I'd say 100%!

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u/MakimaGOAT 1d ago

fuck microsoft

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u/r0nni3RO 1d ago

Stop acting shocked. Customer support nowadays is basically NON EXISTENT in most places, unless it is bad PR, goes viral, or the authorities can get involved/fines are on the table.

One of the reasons I love consumer protection laws in Europe.

If not for these, it's mostly FAQ pages and MAYBE some chat AI, but nobody to actually receive help from.

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u/d_lev 1d ago

And this is what to expect of digital purchases. A waste of money.

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u/Greenfire32 21h ago

But only because it got media attention.

I've had MS tell me to fuck off before and because I didn't take it to the local news station, I didn't get anything more from them.

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u/CharityDiary 20h ago

This is like their automated "refund" system that denies your refund because you earned 1 achievement at the title screen with 30 seconds of gameplay, then you have to call agents on the phone and beg them to give you your money back.

Completely archaic and indefensible consumer "rights", if you can even call it that, and it won't end unless legislative bodies come down hard on this stuff.

When you design automated systems to completely screw over the people giving you money, that's kinda messed up and you're not a good person.

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u/Phate4569 1d ago

I bet there is wording in the ToS that says they don't.

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u/Nixilaas 1d ago

But the PR for doing it would be worth more than the actual reimbursement, don't get me wrong they wouldn't do it from the goodness of their hearts or whatever theyr'e still a soulless corporation but free PR in a world where its hard to come by thats an easy win for them

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u/Acrylic_Starshine 1d ago

Working to reverse a supposedly unreversal action which shows that its all bullshit and they could reverse it at any given time.

What if someone had a 2 year old account and only a few photos of their kids backed up? Its still a loss for them as a 25 year old account.

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u/yuusharo 23h ago

How about the dozens of accounts that have been reported in r/Minecraft who also had their accounts lost and were told “tough luck, rebuy the game”?

They’re only responding to this one account because it got so much news coverage. They’ve been having this problem for months, if not years. Those people are still screwed.

Microsoft sucks.

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u/azab189 1d ago

We should be a sub to help get attentions to issues like r/getmicroslopsattention

PS. I'm drunk

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u/Jim3001 19h ago

This isn't even unique. A Brazilian player had his account deleted and he went to a government watchdog. Now Microsoft is falling over themselves to return the account, which you know, should have been the FIRST option.

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u/Agitated_Reveal_6211 23h ago

MS needs to remember they need us far more than we need them, and they need to treat each of us with fucking respect.

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u/Skennedy31 23h ago

Considering the thousands I've spent on my collection, I'd hope they would work to restore my account too if it were compromised. That being said, you should be doing everything in your power to protect it, including two factor authentication.

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u/SillyMikey 23h ago

If the person can prove it’s his account, this should be a no brainer.

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u/jasonbecker83 22h ago

Truly sad and pathetic from Microsoft. They told him to kick rocks and they're doing something only after some tech websites started hitching about it. Shit tier company.

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u/IFCKNH8WHENULEAVE 22h ago

I was locked out of my Microsoft account for a couple weeks because their 2 step verification wasn’t working correctly. Couldn’t access email. It was a mess. Not once in the entirety of the fiasco was I able to talk to an actual human. All AI chatbots for support. Immediately switched all sensitive emails off of my hotmail account because of that and now i refuse to spend any money on microsoft digital products because i dont know when im gonna lose access potentially forever. There needs to be a reset with all these big tech companies. They hold entirely too much power over our everyday lives.

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u/damtagrey 22h ago

Unfortunately the people best suited for the task were unionized and purged in recent layoffs

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u/WinkMartindale 21h ago

I started my xbox live account the day it came out and it's not 25 years old...

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u/Aprilprinces 20h ago

It's a massive blunder on Microsoft side, but on the other hand - what idiot keeps important things without back up?

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u/RachelMcAdamsWart 20h ago

Microsoft doesn't want to look bad, it was already too late for that.

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u/slothboy 20h ago

Everyone: why don't you trust the cloud bro put your stuff in the cloud you don't need a big hard drive bro.

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u/brnccnt7 19h ago

Cloud bros L

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u/hdtv00 19h ago

Yea I know two people myself that lost their accounts. And they weren't even hacked. They just REFUSE to reset password.

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u/Freakk_I 19h ago

As we can see, Microsoft can restore hacked accounts if it wants.

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u/IronicStar 12h ago

The entire industry needs upheaval and class actions.

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u/IceBlue 10h ago

Why is it standard policy to delete hacked accounts when they know the account was valid for decades?

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u/KNOWFEAR1337 4h ago

Becauae then you'll just buy all those games again right ? /s

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u/filanwizard 10h ago

It cannot be that hard to uncheck the suspended account box. Also MS must run regular backups so if data is deleted they can just restore from the last viable image.

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u/nowhereright 7h ago

When I lost my original Xbox account there was nothing I could do to get it back despite having all the necessary information.

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u/VikingSven82 5h ago

"We’re sorry this happened, it’s not the experience we want anyone to have when their account is compromised."

And yet that's exactly what they programmed (or document if manual...) to happen, so it's the experience everyone is going to have!!!

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u/NuclearReactions 1d ago

Still better experience than with PSN who kindly asks you to fuck off and make a new account just for moving to a different country. It's like sony thinks we still live in the middle ages

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u/ThatAirsickLowlander 1d ago

I gave up on my account when Halo Reach dropped. I was a completionist and wanted to speed run Halo Reach achievements as a former top Halo 2 and Halo 3 player.

I picked up Reach at the midnight release and IMMEDIATELY began grinding. Finished solo legendary before the sun came up. By evening I had all but two achievments. 1 was soft locked because you needed to reach rank Captain which was not yet achievable as they had a level cap preventing it. The second achievment was bugged. You had to prevent a falling death by assassinating an enemy. 100s of attempts and no achievment when midnight hit. I went to bed feeling accomplished I did what I did.

Woke up to my entire account wiped of achievments. I no longer have the account and am no longer a completionist because of this. Edit: Added one too many zeros to 100s.

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u/Dreams-Visions 1d ago

What the fuck does “working to restore” mean? Either the account is encrypted and inaccessible to MS or it’s not. If they have the ability to use a skeleton key on your encrypted data, that seems even more problematic than someone losing their account due to a series of mistakes on MS’ end.

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u/Spiritual-Pudding-70 1d ago

Guy should sue tf outta them. This only got attention from them because of the attention.

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u/ParanMekhar 1d ago

I wonder why would they do that?

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u/COE33isBad 1d ago

After the Internet had an outcry. But ask all the other people who Microsoft and Sony did the same to and you will see they still don't have their accounts back they put thousands into just to own nothing.

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u/BigMack6911 1d ago

Hell I guess I should have put pictures of my son on my xbox account to get it back. I'm in the same situation, I've had it for twenty plus years. And lost it due to a hacker and all my Two FA bs is wrong and I DIDNT EVEN WANT IT.

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u/DrachenofIron 1d ago

It only took it going viral for them to do the right thing.

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u/Kaelrie 1d ago

I doubt it. I also got hacked and my account was still pending for 2 years.

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u/Funerailles_sci 1d ago

Which if they recover it, shows once again that nothing you upload to the internet will ever be deleted. It's all there, somewhere 

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u/DeithWX 1d ago

They don't have backups that aren't overwritten fast? That's basic IT infrastructure... 

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u/JeveGreen 1d ago

They better fucking be!

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u/AustinTanius 1d ago

Would be cool to get back my account. Got stolen back in 2009-2010. I had all the info but the password was changed and they couldn't do anything. I kept tabs on my account with a new one, I would message them and plead for it but received nothing back obviously. They just changed the name of my old account last year, after almost 15 years of having it.
That account had a huge library that is just gone to me. I also loved my gamertag which is why I suspect it was taken in the first place.

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u/Sonoran_Ghosts_81 23h ago

Being semantic but how are Xbox accounts that old? First accounts went live end of 2002?

I got mine when halo 2 released, it’s pushing 22 years now.

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u/DarkPolumbo 23h ago

They'll erase 1000 more while they fix this one thing

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u/Forcasualtalking 23h ago

I'm sure they put their finest intern on it.

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u/Pm-me-ur-happysauce 22h ago

They would save more money if they just paid for the games themselves and gave it to this person

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u/AnonymousFriend80 22h ago

Is this for a new, third person? Or for the Brazilian or the Netherlands?

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u/LongJumpingBalls 22h ago

While it's possible to keep a history of account details, names, partial payment info, etc. They probably don't do any restores due to the potential of phishing attacks and having a scammer steal your account. It's one of those both sides thing.

Is there a way to safely verify accounts? Absolutely without a doubt, does it require critical thinking and people doing that work? Yes, absolutely. Does this cost money to do? Yes absolutely.

Sorry, we can't recover your account.

This is the true reason why this is happening.

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u/ripyourlungsdave 22h ago

Way too little, way too late.

I've already been leaning towards making my switch my primary system and selling my xbox, stuff like this really does not help.

Nintendo customer service has trouble like any other does, they've never deleted one of my accounts and cost me thousands of dollars as a result. I've had that happened twice with xbox, except my story didn't get enough media traction to get fixed by posting about it on 2008 Facebook.