r/ShittyFanTheories 13h ago

Comparing Owl and Chief Bogo's secret tests of character and trickster mentor moments in "Pooh's Grand Adventure" and "Zootopia 2" Spoiler

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I theorize that in both “Pooh’s Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin” and “Zootopia 2” Owl and Chief Bogo had been giving Pooh and his friends and Nick and Judy a secret test of character in the form of Batman Gambits to prove their true potential and improve on their flaws all along as a trickster mentor would and here is why:

In “Pooh’s Grand Adventure” Owl despite the honey being on Christopher’s note did read it correctly and spelled “School” as “School” correctly and not “Skull”, but rather than just be honest to Pooh and his friends about what happened to Christopher and him going away to school for the autumn, but will be back every afternoon, he decided to test Pooh and his friends to prove their true potential and solve their biggest problems (Like for Pooh, his sadness over Christopher leaving, Piglet, his fears, Tigger his doubts about his strength and Rabbit his intelligence and whether he can have original thoughts without following directions.) without Christopher’s help and accomplish things independently by tricking them into assuming that the note said that Christopher was captured by a Skullasaurus and held prisoner by him in the “Eye of the Skull” at the Skull Cave in the “Great Unknown” and therefore sends Pooh and co. on that mission to save him and undergo the secret test of character described above and the reason why he never accompanied them was to avoid making it all look easy for them making the test meaningless and providing an inaccurate map for them to follow also part of Rabbit’s test and their intelligence test (They have to get to the Skull Cave by following the landmarks on the map, not its footstep directions leading in circles.) and once Christopher got home from school Owl explained to Christopher the situation and sent him to the “Eye of the Skull” at the Skull Cave to meet Pooh and his friends at the rendezvous point to prevent their journey from being a “wild goose chase”. (Owl also sent them on an easy journey; it looked harder and more dangerous from the point of view of Pooh and his friends due to their illusions created by their fears and loneliness that disappear after they reunite with Christopher.) So the test seemed harder from the point of view of Pooh and his friends than Owl original intended. It’s unknown if he found it out at the end after they returned. 

Despite it happening the hard way, Owl’s test worked exactly as planned and Pooh learned that no matter when he and Christopher are apart, they will always be together and therefore make peace with his absence since he will always be in his heart, and Piglet learns that he is braver than he believes, Tigger learns that he is stronger than he believes and Rabbit learns that he is smarter than he believes and doesn’t need to follow directions from a guide or book to accomplish things. Eeyore also admitted that his friends still also would have learned these lessons even if Owl didn’t send them on that journey. 

In “Zootopia 2” doing so in a similar way to how Metro Man did with Megamind in the titular character’s 2010 DWA movie, After Nick at the Zootennial Gala manages to prove to Chief Bogo Gary De’ Snake’s existence and convince him to call off his and Judy’s firing from the ZPD despite betraying his police code of conduct twice in a row to help them deal with Gary, Bogo while he grudgingly obeys realized that if he did let Nick and Judy off the hook and keep being the partners and cops they are, they might still repeat their same old mistakes as ones over and over again due to their dysfunctions he constantly tried to get them to realize and learn from and improve on but failed and knew the only way for him to do so was to send them on a life-threatening adventure to cause them to realize those problems he was nagging them about and resolve them as a direct result, since he tried to convince them of them the strict, threatening and therapy way, it never worked. So that might be his last option. 

So Bogo does so by arriving in the fireplace room Nick, Judy, Gary and the Lynxleys are in and despite being aware of Gary’s sudden surprise by the cold climate and rather than dodge it allows himself to be fanged by the viper accidentally allowing the Lynxleys to take advantage of this and Captain HogBottom’s gullibility to frame Nick and Judy causing them to go on the run from the law having to clear their names and solve whatever Judy is obsessed with regarding Gary on their own, (The Lynxley conspiracy) but also realize the consequences of their dysfunctions and problems that he had been trying to nag them about in Jerkass Realizations and resolve them as a direct result since the fugitive thing and near-death experiences will further fuel it, because though Bogo gets quickly cured of the viper venom he was injected with with the anti-venom while in the hospital, (Since Judy and Nibbles also recover from the snake venom that PawBert injected them with very quickly with the anti-venom, less it could be assumed that PawBert injected them with lethal cobra venom smuggled across the seas alongside Gary and the venom Gary injected into Bogo accidentally was viper venom that just puts Anyone injected with it in a coma before it either wears off or it is cured with cobra venom, and it takes quicker to recover from viper venom than cobra venom using the power of anti-venom.) but pretends that he is still ill from his viper venom and recovering in the hospital and never calls HogBottom and tells her that Nick and Judy are innocent so they would be set free instead having Nick and Judy clear their names and have HogBottom and the cops figure it all out on their own, also to test them as well due to them letting their jealousy over Nick and Judy’s fame as cops blind their common sense and fall for the Lynxleys’ lies about their betrayal to arrest them to get the fame they got even if it meant not using protocols cops shouldn’t normally use to do so, and once they finally figure out the police brutality that they are committing they will learn to resolve those flaws that they personally have as well. With Bogo unintentionally also taking advantage of Milton Lynxley being more obsessed with hunting down Nick and Judy plus Gary rather than put him down in the hospital with poison and lie that he died from his viper venom to do so, to keep Nick and Judy’s true innocence a secret with the truth of it never being revealed because in case Nick and Judy do fail, he can always jump out to save them and help them clear their names on his own. (And defeat the Lynxleys who he may find out are actually evil at that point in time.) 

Although Bogo’s test worked out at the end, despite also happening the hard way, because while on the run from the law having to clear their names and solve the Lynxley Conspiracy, Nick and Judy both succeed with this but also with Gary and Nibbles' help and realize the problems and dysfunctions in their relationship and personalities that made them bad cops and friends that Bogo had been trying to get them to understand, (Jerkass Realizations), especially after it nearly destroys their relationship, separated them, put them in near-death experiences and nearly allowed the Lynxleys especially PawBert to win, though it more so also took emotional support from both Nibbles and Gary for them to realize and admit it and they both tearfully apologize to each other for it, and admit their emotional insecurities that made them that way in the first place and form a healthier more positive relationship that finally becomes romantic plus partnership and become better friends and partners, and better morality and compassion which they use alongside Gary and Nibbles’ teamwork to finally bring the Lynxleys to Justice, it also caused more harm than good in terms of in four examples: 

  1. Costing Zootopia yet another mayor after a short lived period in office as one after both  Lionheart and Bellwether since Milton took advantage of Winddancer’s ego and fear of losing his job to work with him and send the police after Nick and Judy to arrest them and though Winddancer redeems himself and turns against Milton, Cattrick and Kitty and aids in their arrests he may as well be removed from office as mayor once the De’ Snake family arrives by them exclusively for his mistake and make the grizzly bear vice mayor of the city the city’s new mayor. Though it was never confirmed. 
  2. Nearly allowed the Lynxleys to win in terms of destroying all evidence of Agnes De’ Snake being the city’s true founder keeping reptiles outcast from the city and expanding TundraTown across Marsh Market relinquishing the remaining reptiles in the city as well. As if he cared more about convincing Nick and Judy to change than what’s truly best for the city. 
  3. Indirectly giving Nick and Judy karmic overkills for their dysfunctional relationship and flawed characters because while they were selfish, immature and delusional, they still would have eventually learned to grow out of them and become better people and partners even if they didn’t go on that on the run from the law adventure Bogo set them up to go on, that also nearly got them killed and turned them against each other Déjà vu to the Enchantress who cursed Prince Adam and turned him into the Beast in Beauty and the Beast (1991) as well as its human castle servants into household objects. It also caused Gazelle and her tigers whom Bogo was a big fan of to get themselves arrested for fending off the Zebros and cops pursuing Judy, PawBert and Gary in crimes of assaulting cops and aiding fugitives until Bogo managed to pardon them and bail them out of prison offscreen due to Gazelle and her tigers being shown pardoned in their concert for the end credits for the movie. 
  4. Allowing Captain HogBottom, Truffler and the cops who chased Nick and Judy to become more relentless, incompetent and selfish than originally intended in terms of how they quickly fall for the lies of the Lynxleys after they frame Nick and Judy and make Gary look evil just as Agnes is, nearly aiding the Lynxleys in repeating history in the process, and become manipulated by them minus PawBert to the point where they commit police brutality and reckless endangerment and protocols cops shouldn’t traditionally use not even Nick and Judy despite the cowboy cop antics they committed at the start, (Especially given the fact that Officer Bucheron tried to tranquilize and cause Judy to fall to her death just because he saw her as a dangerous criminal and Officer Chevre downright assaults Nick ragefully and HogBottom almost fired a poison dart on Judy before deciding not too until Higgins bumped into her and accidentally caused her to fire it anyway.) and though they do come to their senses about it after HogBottom overhears Milton ordering her to use lethal force on Judy, PawBert and Gary and witnesses Judy nearly sacrificing herself to save PawBert and Gary and Nick, Nibbles and Flash coming back to save her and Higgins, Bloats, Chevre and Bucheron witnessing Gary saving Judy with anti-venom before knocking them out and locking them in the weather wall control room to save Nick from falling to his death. Though HogBottom and these cops do redeem themselves for their mistakes at the end by helping arrest the Lynxleys, their police brutality must have gotten them fired from the ZPD or taken off the field as cops and given mandatory therapy with Dr. Fuzzby for this reason while also straining their relationships with Nick and Judy (But they were likely also at therapy to learn how to forgive them.) who only acted nice towards them while in public in the final scenes in the sequel causing the ZPD to lose most of its important cops and teams that Nick and Judy have to do the duties for. Speaking of the devil, it also caused Nick and Nibbles to cause a prison breakout in order to escape and Nick, Judy and the ZPD now have to work hard to re-capture all the criminals that were freed starting with Bellwether. 

Although Zootopia 2 ended with Chief Bogo being happily visited by Nick and Judy plus Gary and Clawhauser in the hospital with Nick and Judy now understanding why Bogo nagged them in the first place and apologized for rebuffing it, (Bogo also quickly forgives Gary for accidentally fanging him since he intended for it to happen.) and him happily partying in Gazelle’s concert in the ending for how his test in changing Nick and Judy worked, he may have to face the consequences for his trickery when he admits that he set Nick and Judy up to be framed in the first place and faked still being ill while in the hospital to get them to undergo their secret test of character by going on that adventure causing him to be admonished and fired from his job as police chief or worse arrested for that and abandoning his duty as police chief and never once confirming Nick and Judy’s innocence while they were on the run from the law to solve it themselves that caused all these problems mentioned above also indirectly allowing crimes and police brutality to happen making Officer Pennington or Officer McHorn the new police chief of the ZPD for seniority and having a more positive attitude. 

Rafiki the Mandrill acted as a trickster mentor in The Lion King (1994) towards Simba in an obvious way maybe same towards him again and Kiara, Timon and the other characters in the 1998 sequel, 2004 Midquel and The Lion Guard series, but Owl and Chief Bogo do so in a less obvious way.


r/ShittyFanTheories 1d ago

Headcannon: the Chao gardens restaurant we see in the Third Sonic movie is owned by Movieverse Clutch the Opossum as a front for smuggling Actual Chao

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For the Uninitiated, Clutch the opposum is a character from the IDW comics known for doing…not so nice things to Chao. so opening a tacky restaurant themed around them lines up


r/ShittyFanTheories 1d ago

Why Alex Myers Is getting Canceled and how Obsession Exposed him. Spoiler

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r/ShittyFanTheories 2d ago

Obsession movie theory

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r/ShittyFanTheories 2d ago

Theory of Donny

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An interesting fan-theory that Donny exists only in Walter's mind.

The Dude Abides.


r/ShittyFanTheories 2d ago

We had already seen Red's children before! (From Angry Birds Movie 3)

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My boyfriend noticed in a promotional video for "The Angry Birds Movie 2" that the chicks looked remarkably similar to Red's children—so much so that they might actually be them. I started connecting details from the promo video with the trailer for the third movie and came to the conclusion that they *could* indeed be his kids.

First of all, the chicks' appearance closely matches the official designs for Red's children. For instance, there’s a light-blue chick with tufts of feathers sticking up—just like Red's eldest son—and at one point in the video, its eyebrows shift to resemble its dad's. While there are slight differences, these can be explained by the fact that the earlier versions were likely concept art; over the years, the creators probably tweaked or added details to make the characters more appealing to the public (and, of course, to sell more merch). A good example is Red's daughter: in that promo video, she had green eyes, but in the third movie's trailer, her eyes are light blue, and the baby son is a lighter shade of blue-purple.

Secondly, that promotional video (and another featuring Silver and Red) shows the characters hosting a livestream. This doesn't quite align with the second movie, where the most advanced technology seen consisted of the inventions created by that one pig—meaning there were no computers, tablets, phones, or AirPods (like the ones Red's daughter wears in the trailer). Since such technology doesn't appear to exist within the world of the second movie, we can infer that it arrived after those events. Consequently, the chicks must have come along later—after Silver and Red’s relationship had developed and the technology on Bird Island had advanced. This leads to my next point.

  1. After the second movie ended, Silver and Red continued to deepen their relationship, eventually starting a family—likely the very same chicks seen in that promotional video from six years ago. We know they are a couple because they interact tenderly and gently, a stark contrast to the movie, where they constantly bickered and shared a tense dynamic. It is also reasonable to infer that the chicks belong to them, given that they were seated at nearby tables (perhaps to keep an eye on them while still allowing them some space). My theory can easily be disproven by the age difference between the chicks; the trailer for the third movie clearly shows a noticeable age gap between the children—the eldest son, the middle sister, and the baby. However, this can be explained by my first point: since these were initial designs or conceptual ideas, their ages might have been altered to make them more distinct.

Here are the two promotional videos, in case you want to go watch them: https://youtu.be/NkayX2PTDII?si=pqW8Of90nroMZ_sL
https://youtu.be/5X1XrYphBr0?si=I35FeDHc6Gb3n4Lt


r/ShittyFanTheories 3d ago

Fan theory im working on

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r/ShittyFanTheories 4d ago

minions and monsters reality warping theory

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so I know this is random considering its a kids movie but I feel like there's much more to the plot than what is shown.

For one, Goomi is a Cthulhu. In H.P. Lovecraft's mythos, the Cthulhu is a reality warping monster that can change the perception of people and make them go insane.

With this knowledge, and the implication of the movie having the movie inside of a movie trope, I believe it is possible that the minions (James and Henry) were tricked by goomi into believing that they are just making a movie and nothing else, when it is highly possible that in reality the world they live in is in total chaos as seen by the monsters that were unleashed in courtesy of the two. This can be further proven by how in the end we see the monsters being taken in carts, and appear to be fake, as opposed to what we saw in the movie beforehand, which wouldn't make much sense considering goomi, along with the other monsters got sealed in the book, but we still see goomi in the ending with James and Henry.

I know this sounds insane but hear me out on this..


r/ShittyFanTheories 4d ago

Obsession for Cats Spoiler

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MY THEORY ABOUT BEAR AND THE CAT REFERENCES:

Bear died just like his cat at the beginning of the movie. And here's why:

As we all know, when he made the wish, Nikki started to act like a cat, just because it's one of the things that loves him most and that he truly love (like his grandma and Sarah in the ending). We have cat references during the whole movie, including the tabi CAT curiosities trademark. Even Bear's clock is a cat (we can see it when he's crying after Sandy's death).

Than, Sandy becomes a Sandy-wich, in the scene in which Nikki Is waiting for Bear in front of the door and "meows" when he returnes home (listen It in english).

Coming back to the end of the movie: he dies in the same way Sandy died, just after fake nikki wished for his exact same wish. In a circular fashion, she made him become the thing that loved him most, as she had become the same (thinking that in this way he ended up loving her like she loves him) and it all ended with him dying, lying on the ground and drooling, from the same pills as Sandy, closing the circle itself with fake Nikki crying for him (like he cried for his cat in the beginning).


r/ShittyFanTheories 5d ago

Logical Gap? - Why did freaky Nikki not erase "Not me" from the Polaroid???

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Hope it's an apt post for this sub....


r/ShittyFanTheories 5d ago

Jennifer’s body: Jennifer’s real soul was trying to escape.

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Jennifer’s body: Jennifer’s real soul was trying to escape.

Theory: Jennifer’s real soul was trying to escape after she was possessed by the succubus.

I have theory about Jennifer’s body that may or may not make sense, but I think it’s interesting. Hear me out.

So in Jennifer’s Body, if someone dies while not being a virgin in the sacrifice, they resurrect as a succubus and must feed on the flesh of humans to live. And the only way to actually release the demon is through a knife to the heart.

“Release the demon.”

This is interesting because in cases like vampires, the only way for them to die is a steak through the heart, which will break the curse, because vampirism is a curse. However, when they’re undead, still “living” in their body, they still retain their personality, hobbies and interests as they did when they were humans, because they’re undead, just like Jennifer. Jennifer still remains her same personality and behavior as she did in the beginning before the ritual, but now she’s been overtaken by a demonic force. But at times in the movies, it seems like she’s fighting something else that’s internal.

What if Jennifer’s mortal soul is still inside her body and trying to fight with the demon that’s also living inside her?

In the scene with the picture I put up there, Jennifer is putting on makeup and getting ready for the dance, but she’s also crying. You could chalk this up to her being hungry, since the demon gets weaker without flesh, but it seems more symbolic. You could also chalk this up to her insecurity pouring out, and trying to cover it up with her looks, but what if those fears are from the real Jennifer trying to fight off the demon and failing so? What if she’s crying because she’s giving audience a sign the real Jennifer is in there? That her tears are part of her soul leaking out, but the demon is stronger and that’s why she covering them up with makeup, symbolizing the battle between the two and who’s winning, which would be even more interesting because Jennifer uses her looks as a weapon, and the demon knows that she could hold this over Jennifer who is deep down super self conscious, in turn Jennifer’s need to be pretty is stronger than her need to be free, ultimately taking advantage of Jennifer’s vulnerability.

Throughout the movie, as I rewatch there’s multiple times where Jennifer seems to be switching between two people. For example, in the fight scene with Needy, Needy rips off Jennifer’s friendship necklace which causes Jennifer to pause her attack. If Needy didn’t do this, Jennifer would’ve most likely either killed or harmed her, but it’s like Jennifer suddenly snapped out of what trance she was in. In the beginning scene when they’re at each other’s locker, Jennifer is playing with the necklace while talking to Needy. It’s like Needy is a key to her humanity in a way, despite the horrible treatment she put Needy through. The demon knew this, as this will get into my next point, but continuing, when the connection to Needy was ripped off, the real spirit of Jennifer became stronger than the Demon, which is why the demon didn’t seem to fight Needy off when she had the chance, Jennifer was now in control and didn’t want to kill her best friend, she wasn’t going to let it happen like how she didn’t want to kill those boys either.

Into my next point, the demon was mimicking
Jennifer’s behavior. I notice from the beginning of the film to the end, Jennifer’s personality seemed much more, how can I say it, exaggerated? Yes, from the start we already knew the type of person she was, vain, mean and egotistical. But, there was still that innocence and awkwardness of every teenage girl. In the scene where they’re heading to the bar, Jennifer starts pushing Needy around with some force, they all are laughing but you can tell Needy and Chip seem a bit weirded out by the interaction, while Jennifer is oblivious to the vibe around her, she just keeps laughing and pushing Needy. In the bar scene, she flirts with one of the band members in Low Shoulder, and you’d think from how popular and successful she is with boys, this would be a breeze, but no. She’s super awkward, stuttering over her words, and timid. She quotes “I can’t wait till I’m old enough to get wasted.” Showing her obvious age and that she still in a way, follows rules. After the ritual, when she gets back to school, she interrupts class, is rude to her teacher and laughs about the fires. While we don’t get any prior scene of how she is in a classroom setting, it seems out of character for her if we reflect on what she said at the bar, she respects authority, which is why she waits till she’s drinking age to get wasted, because that’s the law. We can assume to apply this with authority in school. But with the demon living inside her, all that seems to change, including her way with boys. That childlike sense is gone, she has much more perceived confidence and snide to her, example is how she flirted with Colin.

We can also apply this to the opposite, with Needy, when Jennifer was alive, she seemed much more crass and harsh with her attitude towards her best friend, there wasn’t really a moment of softness and vulnerability between them before the ritual except for the bar scene when they’re holding hands. After she changes, she has much more “nice” moments, telling Needy about how PMS is sexist, how she could never hurt Needy, the kissing scene etc, and yes, she still treated Needy awfully, I have to wonder was she much more “kinder” after her transformation because she realized how alone she really was, and that she never considered going through such a tragedy obviously, but now that she did, the only person who can really understand and be there for her is her best friend, and in a way she’s sucking up to Needy a bit which is her way of winning over the demon in that aspect, by showing her humanity side.

I really love the ending where she says “my tit.” After being stabbed, it shows that even after such a horrible act, she still cares about her appearance. But one thing I noticed was the way Jennifer looked at Needy as she was being stabbed in the heart. There wasn’t a look or pain or discomfort, and while yes, the demon has high pain tolerance, as shown when it gets stabbed with a pole and continues home normally, I interpret it as Jennifer’s real soul looking through Needy and thanking her, thanking her for releasing this spirit that is controlling her. The look on her face seems to be admiration, which can also be a tale of Jennifer finally seeing how strong Needy has become, something she was scared of in the past, but now thankful, it’s also a factor that the first way Jennifer died, was by men. Boys have always been a detrimental influence on Jennifer, as she craved their validation, yet still ended hurt and used. (That weird cop who was preying on her at the bar, Roman I think his name is.) This situation she was in happened because of men, and now that’s she’s finally let out, it’s by the only person she really trusts, the only person who really saw something in her besides a pretty face, not to mention, Jennifer represents a lot of repressed female homosexuality, so put two and two together.

All in all, I don’t think Jennifer’s mortal soul was gone.

By the way, at the end if you didn’t notice, Jennifer gets her color back when she dies. And something else, the mirror scene when Jennifer burns her tongue, that can be the demon playing with its new fresh body. Just some food for thought!

Side note: We know that Jennifer didn’t attend the dance at the school that night because she was targeting Chip out of hunger, but a part of me thinks she uses this as a getaway because Low Shoulder was playing. Jennifer recognizes what they did to her, from how annoyed and upset she gets at the mention of their band in school, or how she tells Needy what happened the day of the fire, she seems so distant, kind of like she’s dissociating from that horrid event. This shows Jennifer’s humanity taking over in a way, if the demon was hungry, the school dance would be an all you could eat buffet, obviously the trauma is very strong and fresh, so much so it hindered her ability to attend the dance and that’s the real reason she had went to look for Chip that night, and with trauma, some survivors try to find a distraction, that could’ve been her distraction. Of course, the demon manipulates before attacking but she seemed genuinely interested in talking deeply with Chip at the pool, almost like she wanted to tell him what was really going on until rejected, which angered the demon, reminding the entity of its hunger once again and that much being more powerful than any emotion felt before.


r/ShittyFanTheories 5d ago

The dark side

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r/ShittyFanTheories 7d ago

Charles Xavier fabricated the whole thing.

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What if the world was actually at peace and harmony with mutants and Professor X was just a bored billionaire with a jet who used his psychic powers to drive the whole world mad, and use a bunch of teenagers to dress up like superheroes and fight his billionaire fantasy.


r/ShittyFanTheories 6d ago

READ THE BODY! Cap didn’t lift Mjolnir because he was worthy. He figured out Odin's spell triggers on "holding" (squeezing) the handle, not lifting it. While Stark and Hulk blindly pulled it up, Steve tightly gripped it and hacked the system.

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Everyone forgets the exact wording of Odin’s spell from the first movie: "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor."Notice the key word here: HOLDS (grips/squeezes), not lifts.In Age of Ultron, during the party scene, Tony Stark, Rhodey, and Hulk were all blindly lifting and pulling the hammer upwards against gravity. But Steve Rogers is a tactical genius. Remember the iconic flagpole scene in his first movie? While other soldiers used brute force, Steve found the loophole, pulled the pin, and dropped the pole. He always analyzes the system. He did the exact same thing at Stark's party.Steve walks up and simply grips (holds) the handle tightly. The hammer's Uru metal registers the physical trigger, and it instantly moves. Steve realizes it's light as a feather, but being the ultimate nice guy, he immediately pretends to struggle and fake-pulls so he wouldn't crush Thor's ego in front of the Avengers.Because he successfully triggered the spell back then, Thor's power slowly accumulated in Steve over the years. That’s why in Endgame, he doesn't just hold Mjolnir — he commands lightning like a god.Even Stormbreaker works this way. It's made of the same Uru metal, and the magical property transferred to it. Groot didn't lift it by worthiness; he tightly gripped the hot pieces to bind them. Thanos later caught Stormbreaker and almost killed Thor with it simply because he had a massive, tight grip on it.Steve Rogers bypassed the magic with pure observation. What do you think about this?


r/ShittyFanTheories 7d ago

FAN THEORY: GREG HEFFLEY IS BEAR

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r/ShittyFanTheories 8d ago

DHMIS is a political allegory about the 1988 US presidential election Spoiler

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r/ShittyFanTheories 9d ago

Historians Theorize Declaration Of Independence Started As ‘Twilight’ Fan Fiction

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r/ShittyFanTheories 9d ago

All the protagonists in Big Hero 6 are drug addicts.

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I was watching big hero 6 the other day and saw Fred and thought "this dude smokes hella pot" but then I noticed the other teens, honeylemon is always extra and energetic like she's on coke, wassabi is so organized and has such extreme reactions that he seems like he's on adderal, and gogo is so calm and collected even in near death situations where she must be on Xanax. I'm assuming Todashi is an alcoholic and we didn't see it on screen because he didn't what to show that to his brother, though there's little evidence for that last one.


r/ShittyFanTheories 9d ago

Rick Sanchez delusion theory

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r/ShittyFanTheories 13d ago

The biggest villain isn’t a monster… it’s Victor’s memories.

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r/ShittyFanTheories 14d ago

Szalony sofa theory (just hear me out)

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So upon revisiting my core hyperfixation of the 1989 movie honey I shrunk the kids yes I know talking about it in the big 26 but I came up with a theory lol

It all started because OH MY FREAKING GOD WHY IS THE DOG SO SMART

Hear me out just hear me out ok?

I think Quark has a fraction of Waynes consiousness and I can PROVE IT

I CAN PROVE IT SERIOUSLY

Its established in the movie that Wayne has a sofa in the attic he dubbed as the thinking couch. Hear me out I generally think this couch is one of his early inventions/prototypes think about it NO ACTUALLY

. This mf builds the most insane shit especially in the TV show he already built a device that could SWAP BRAINS THERE ARE PARALELLS HERE and since the TV show takes place canoniclly after the first movie it would make sense he would build a better version of the thinking couch. Did I mention his brain in one episode got zapped into Quarks BODY??!

So its safe to say he would bs the type to build a device that oompths up his brain power everytime he needs to think. Now heres where my theory gets either interesting or stupid

.Quark goes on the couch all the time with him HE CHEWED ON THE COUCH

what if him chewing on the couch messed with the physical wireing making it malfunction and Waynes consiousness like a fraction of it was transported into Quarks brain. Like his brainpower was transported through both of their buttocks. Like maybe it works because the heat from their butts power up the thinking couch too. Since heat creates energy. Prehaps it works because buttocks are famously warm parts of the body and the thermal heat triggers the couch to power up but thats just a specualation rather just a idea on how it might work though the movie dosnt really hint at how it works this is a rough idea of how it might idk lol

It explains why the dog is so smart but it also explains waynes behaviour.

He saw his child in a bowl of cereal and didnt look horrified half the time this dude is ligitimately absent and clumsy as hell which can be explained with the fact he lost some of his consiousness. This can also be said for when he noticed the sofa was missing and didnt think for one single second that maybe the machiene worked I mean if u make a device that midgetficates things THEN a couch DISSAPPEARS RANDOMLY you would at least think for a second maybe?

LIKE MAYBE YOU WOULD THINK OH MY GOD IT WORKED?? BRO WHAT

He is also very impulsive as well throughout the movies (and the show) which some could pin it up to a simple personality trait but honestly it makes the brain consioussness thing make more sense though it could be a combination of both. Whats also very weird is that in the sequal Wayne is consitantly figuring out how to make things grow which does NOT make any sense because at the end of the first movie he literally made food huge for a family gathering. Even the most scatterbrained man on earth would forget such a thing he wouldve brought it up right.

But conviantly he remembers he can do this with the original machiene which he uses to blow up Diane. I thought this was a plot hole but then again it would make a ton of sense for him to forget such a important detail if he has lost some of his consiousness. I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS IS A PLOT HOLE

. Quark on the other hand was smart enough to stop wayne from committing child cannibalism accidently via the cheerio scene. We also see he seems to understand human language especially when Amy tells him to be quiet when the kids are freshly shrunken in the attic. He also understood Amy's command to go and get their fathers attention which most dogs would be confused af if you asked them a question like this. Quark also has traits that completely are the opposite to waynes. Hes not impulsive nor scatterbrained which makes waynes behaviour make more sense he is literally losing a fraction of his brain. He does have moments where he acts more like a normal dog hence why I think its most possibly only a quarter of waynes consiousness and not say 50 percent.

So yes

In conclusion Wayne's consiousness and brainpower was thrown into Quarks brain by a quarter and Im convinced

But hey thats just a theory

I literally thought of this randomly and wrote it down because I thought it was funny


r/ShittyFanTheories 14d ago

How there is evidence of a shared Goosebumps universe throughout the series and spin-off series (REPOST)

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THIS IS A REPOST AND YOU CAN CHECK OUT MY ORIGINAL POST HERE: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooseBumps/comments/1tvrw20/how_there_is_evidence_of_a_shared_goosebumps/

So I wrote an article one time when I was bored and it was an article explaining the possibility of a shared Goosebumps universe throughout a lot of the original series, 2000, Horrorland, and other spin off series released later. I wrote this a bit ago but never thought of posting it until now. So if I have any inaccuracies in the article, you guys can help me sort of scoop it all up and properly place it into this article. So, without further a do, here is the article that explains how there is indeed a shared Goosebumps universe throughout the books.

An Explanation Of A Shared Goosebumps Universe

By: metalsandwich69

Have you ever wondered what it would be like if different characters from different books in the Goosebumps series were to come together? What would it be like if one neighborhood were flooded with strange lawn gnomes while the other one across the road was dealing with a bad batch of Monster Blood? For those who haven’t, maybe you should consider it. But, for those of you who have, you're in luck (maybe), because I have an answer. And this all has to do with one book, and one book only: One Day At Horrorland.

Day At Horrorland has been voted by many as their all-time favorite book from the “Original 62,” as the original Goosebumps series is referred to. As most people should know (if they are a fan of Goosebumps, that is), this spawned a new series, Goosebumps Horrorland, which ran through the late 2000s, into the early 2010s. The series follows a lot of the original characters from the series, and some new ones, as they deal with their own frightening case of the Goosebumps goodies before being transported to Horrorland throughout the last thirty to forty pages. This series reintroduces some famous protagonists and monsters from previous books, like Amazo, Lizzie, Luke, and Clay from the first Horrorland book, The Haunted Mask, Monster Blood, Slappy, Billy Deep, Sheena Deep, and more. This is the first piece of evidence of a shared universe, as the protagonists all meet each other later in the series, where they try to escape.

The spinoff series that ran directly after the end of Monster Blood IV and the Original 62 was Goosebumps Series 2000, which ran (ironically) from 1998 to 2000, with only one book serving the purpose of the series name, The Ghost In The Mirror, which was released in January 2000. Although that is not the topic of discussion for this paragraph. We are discussing book number 13, Return To Horrorland. This follows Luke, Lizzie, and Clay, as it had before, as they try to uncover the secrets of Horrorland to the public, with television hosts Derek and Margo Strange. What you might not remember from this story (if you can remember anything at all from it) was that Evan Ross, the known protagonist in all four Monster Blood books in the Original 62, makes a relative cameo appearance. He is on a television show that Lizzie and Luke are watching, and he is trying to explain the events from Monster Blood II, with Cuddles the Hamster, and how he ate Monster Blood, but nobody believes him. Another reintroduction to characters was Amazo, who was doing a magic act in Horrorland and had more of an impact on the story. This adds the four Monster Blood books from the original series, the two other books about Monster Blood: Monster Blood for Breakfast and Monster Blood is Back!, while also adding Bad Hare Day, which served as Amazo’s first appearance in any of the Goosebumps books.

On the topic of the Horrorland series, we shall now switch our attention to the actual books, while making connections to the Original 62 when the time comes.

The first book of the Horrorland series was Revenge of the Living Dummy, and, as you have guessed, follows around Slappy, the evil ventriloquist’s dummy, who has replaced Curly the Skeleton as Goosebumps’s mascot since the 2000s. This easily introduces the three Night of the Living Dummy stories from the Original 62, the two stories from Series 2000—Bride of the Living Dummy, and Slappy’s Nightmare—in three of the Horrorland books, one Most Wanted book, and eight of the Slappyworld books. That’s quite a large array of books . . . you could almost say it’s . . . massive. Ha, you know what else is massive?

On a more serious note, we will continue to the second book in the Horrorland series, which is Creep from the Deep. This story follows Billy and Sheena Deep, who are two notable Goosebumps siblings, adding the two Deep Trouble books from the Original 62.

The third book is titled Monster Blood for Breakfast, which, sadly, does not reintroduce the protagonists Evan Ross, Andy, Conan, or Kermit, although that last one is probably for the better. Even though it does not contain the same characters, it still keeps Monster Blood, which is why this is on the list (see list on page), along with the Slappyworld book. A little piece of irony on this, Monster Blood was the third book in the Original 62 to be released, Monster Blood for Breakfast was the third book released in the Horrorland series, and, as they were being released alongside the Horrorland books, it is also the third book in the Classic Goosebumps reprints of the original books.

The fourth book is The Scream of the Haunted Mask, and it is a weird one. R. L. Stine said that this was his fulfillment of The Haunted Mask Lives!, which was supposed to be the first book in a series called Goosebumps Gold. Although the series never even lived for just one book to be released, due to Stine’s contract with Scholastic expiring, Tim Jacobus, the illustrator for the Goosebumps covers up until the 2000s, was able to finish the artwork of that book and another one that was supposed to be released in the canceled series, Happy Holidays from Dead House, and they are available online, and in the excellent book by Sarah Rodriguez, with Rachel Deering, and Mark McNabb, The Art of Goosebumps. For those who have bought it, they would agree that it is surely an excellent book for Goosebumps fans interested in the artwork of Tim Jacobus. Back to the actual topic, this story connects the first two The Haunted Mask books from the Original 62, and the Wanted book of the same name as the one in the Original 62, despite it not including Sabrina, Carly Beth, Chuck, or Steve.

Speaking of Chuck and Steve, in The Haunted Mask II, after Steve gets pushed into the mud by the first-grade soccer team that he was coaching, Chuck remarks that he looks like a Mud Monster. Could this be a reference to book fifteen in the Original 62, You Can’t Scare Me!? Is it a useless misconception to be taken as a reference, but it is meant to be taken as if it were a comic book monster? Is it a simple joke by Stine to make idiots like me overthink something so unnecessary to overthink? But I digress. Although it is taken like that, You Can’t Scare Me!, will be added to the list for the sake of “just in case”.

The fifth book in the series, Dr. Maniac vs. Robby Schwartz, does not have a connection to the original series, nor do the next two books. Although it has a connection to a spin-off series later, Goosebumps: Most Wanted. The fifth book in the Most Wanted series is Dr. Manic Will See You Now!, which reintroduces the character Dr. Maniac.

As stated previously, the next two books have no connection to the Original 62, although the eighth book does—sort of.

The eighth book in the Horrland series is Say Cheese—And Die Screaming!, which, for those familiar with the Original 62, knows that this story is surely a classic. Despite the name similarities and the subject matter, it is never specified whether the evil camera in this story is the same one that Spidey made in the original two. The same case as the mysterious “maybe-reference” in The Haunted Mask II, with You Can’t Scare Me!, the two Say Cheese And Die! books are going on the list.

The rest of the series and Hall of Horrors are separate from any references to the Original 62, whether they are just similar stories (as is the case with Welcome To Camp Slither and Welcome To Camp Nightmare), or they have the same characters from previous Horrorland books coming together, there seems to be no other references to the Original 62 that points to a larger universe of Goosebumps monsters. Note how I said larger universe. If you haven’t guessed from that point about what I mean, I shall explain it.

In some books, there are small bits of evidence that point to a shared universe, but not one as large as we have just explored. Two cases of this could be possible evidence for other, smaller, shared universes.

In the seventh book in the Series 2000, Revenge ‘R Us, Wade is forced by her friend, Carl, to go to a house dubbed “The Dead House.” This could be a reference to the very first book in the series, Welcome to Dead House. Another case of this also takes place in the Series 2000, in the twenty-fourth book, Earth Geeks Must Go!, a teacher at Jacob’s new middle school tells him that he is in the “trelth grade.” The number trel is used in the forty-third book in the Original 62, The Beast From The East. This could mean that a number-naming language is the same between the beasts and the aliens, or, and this is quite fascinating, the beasts from The Beast From The East are living on the same planet as the aliens in some exiled space, where they were able to learn the language from lost people like Nat, Pat, and Ginger in the book, or other lost alien people. Another piece of reference in this book is the twist ending. Jacob, his sister Arlene, and his Father are taken to a planet that is thought to be Earth, until someone takes off their human disguise and shows them a face that looks similar to a purple alligator, which is a similar description to the Creeps from book fifty of the original series, Calling All Creeps. Is this a reference to the book? Have the Creeps succeeded in creepifying the world? That is a question that I cannot answer.

Now, we have explored the treacherous terrains that are the Original 62, Series 2000, Horrorland, Hall of Horrors, Wanted, Most Wanted, and Slappyworld. But what about Give Yourself Goosebumps? Triple-Header, Tales to Give You Goosebumps, House of Shivers? There is a small problem with those series. Firstly, Give Yourself Goosebumps treats the books as if they are real and you have read them (as in the small trivia moments), and as if you have read them and they are real now (as in the moment where you meet Slappy in Escape from the Carnival of Horrors, and when you try to use the can of Monster Blood to make you big again in Beware of the Purple Peanut Butter). The Triple-Header series only ran for two books, and the three stories in each of those books are separate from any other; the same goes for Tales to Give You Goosebumps. Small, ten to twenty-page-long stories that have no relevance to each other. The newest Goosebumps series, House of Shivers, is too new to have any relevance to other stories. As of March 2026, no stories have any reference to previous stories sharing a universe with them.

The following list will provide the books that are a part of the large shared universe, but not the ones that may be separately shared.

Original 62 contains the four Monster Blood books, the two Say Cheese And Die books, all three Night of the Living Dummy stories, the two Haunted Mask books, along with the possibility of You Can’t Scare Me!, One Day At Horrorland, the two Deep Trouble books, and Bad Hare Day. Series 2000 contains Bride of the Living Dummy and Slappy’s Nightmare, along with book thirteen, Return To Horrorland. If I am not mistaken, all of the Horrorland series will be apart of this list, although I have not gone through the full series, so please correct me if I am wrong on that. The Wanted book, The Haunted Mask, will also be added to this list, along with two Most Wanted books, those being Dr Maniac vs Robbie Schwartz and Son of Slappy. As I have discussed before, the entire Slappyworld series will not be put on this list because, although they are spoken and basically Narrated by Slappy, few of them contain him, those being Slappy Birthday To You, I am Slappy’s Evil Twin, The Ghost of Slappy, The Dummy Meets The Mummy, Diary of a Dummy, My Friend Slappy, Slappy in Dreamland, and the special edition, Slappy, Beware! The only other story in Slappyworld that shares the same universe as this massive one is Monster Blood Is Back.

Thank you if you have stayed long enough to read through everything, and if you have any advice or I have made a mistake, please tell me in the comments on this post. Enjoy diving into this deep rabbit hole like I have!


r/ShittyFanTheories 15d ago

What about the secret of the double lives of the toys from Toy Story?

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So... even though I haven't been on Reddit for very long, I know it's a great place to discuss random things you're curious about. With the new Toy Story movie coming out, my grown-ass self is once again wondering about something that has bugged me since childhood.

Since all toys lead a double life and are fully alive, sentient individuals when humans aren't around, do you think there have ever been cases in their universe (outside of the main plot and the characters we know) where people discovered their secret and were like, "Holy crap, you're actually alive?!" or something like that? Or are they just that good at playing dead that absolutely nobody in the world knows? What are your theories on this?

P.S.

Yes, I know Sid found out the truth in the first movie and all, but I'm specifically curious if there could have been other instances in their universe where someone found out the truth about toys.


r/ShittyFanTheories 16d ago

Jimmy neutron is Jim from American Pie

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Same name and parents are basically the same characters.


r/ShittyFanTheories 17d ago

Could Obsession (2026) be showing Bear's psychological breakdown instead of a supernatural curse?

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This is just my interpretation.

Bear seems like a lonely, emotionally dependent person who only had his grandmother. After her death, he inherits her house, and Niki's bold personality becomes something he emotionally clings to.

Ian appears to recognize that something is wrong with Bear. Instead of confronting him directly, he subtly prevents Bear from acting on his feelings for Niki. Sarah also seems to be trying to help Bear understand that Niki is actually with Ian and doesn't share his feelings.

The hallucinations seem to begin when Bear realizes Niki is leaving. The "Wish Tree" becomes important, yet the shopkeeper asks, "What stick?", making me question whether the stick ever existed.

Later, when Sarah is supposedly attacked, the car window is undamaged while Bear's hands are covered in blood, which made me wonder if Bear actually hurt Sarah himself.

Other details also stood out to me: the mannequin in Bear's house, Niki appearing with Sarah's tattoos, Ian's concern for Sarah and Niki before Bear shoots him, and the final scene where Niki appears beside Bear during his seizure. Together, these moments made me question whether we're watching reality or Bear's increasingly unreliable perception.

Did anyone else interpret the film this