r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/AaronDaPanda • 22h ago
Meme needing explanation Petah?
What's chaser and egg? Found on a Facebook group where everyone says the word 'egg' only
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u/NiemandSpezielles 21h ago
There have been some explanations what chaser and egg is, but it might be worth adding that this references a well known greentext about game difficulty. Thats at least half of the joke:
https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/1j9m5tt/for_that_one_anon_looking_for_it/
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u/FoghornLeghorne 20h ago
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u/Spinhavel 20h ago
This is where I learn that the “creepy or wet” version isn’t actually the original, wow.
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u/elPerroAsalariado 19h ago
Rumor has it that the creepy wet was an AI attempt at the joke. Back when ai could barely speak.
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u/JoJoModding 19h ago
Exactly. This was then picked up by some (early/bad) AI bot that replaced "based or cringe" with "creepy or wet" which kind of started the meme of replacing key words in the story with similar words.
Or apparently the meme of replacing things is older than that, starting with a post asking if a movie theater is "4chan or reddit:" https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/she-laughs-and-says-its-a-good-x-sir
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u/toxiclight 22h ago
Meg's big toe here. Egg often refers to trans people before they realize they're trans. And a chaser is someone who seeks out specific types of people for fetish purposes. Trans chasers being one those.
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u/sadimem 20h ago
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u/TheBeesKneads 15h ago
I believe this is the original:
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u/zehamberglar 15h ago
The original was the "is the movie reddit or 4chan?" one, and the second one was what you posted but the options were "based or cringe".
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u/Pleasant-Basket-7526 21h ago
It was always worse than now, seriously.
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u/Silly_Guidance_8871 21h ago
Doesn't mean I have to like what it's become 😉
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u/Silverton13 20h ago
it hasnt become anything different, we just know how to label things and talk about it openly now rather than being freaks in dungeons.
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u/actual_real_housecat 20h ago
Aww, I was promised the dungeon thing was still on the table...
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u/mrv_wants_xtra_cheez 19h ago
It costs extra nowadays… 😢
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u/BocchisEffectPedal 19h ago
Damned fetish inflation. Smh
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u/Metalgsean 19h ago
TBF, that's exactly the opposite to how it was in the 90s, people actively didn't want to be labelled.
Not saying it's worse now, just that it has become very different.
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u/uglyoldcrone0 19h ago
It really was like that back then! I remember songs and stuff talking about not wanting to be labelled or put in a box as a certain thing.
There was a bjork interview and she said she hated being labelled.
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u/droppedpackethero 19h ago
Granted. However, with that has come an unhealthy obsession among some people who make such things their entire reality while being very intrusive about it towards those around them. And since the internet has made everyone "around" everyone else, that makes them very intrusive on everybody.
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u/Night-King-001 19h ago
There's always 1% of every demographic that gets obsessive and doesn't respect boundaries. The issue is that a lot of people are singling out the trans/lgbt demographic in general more than others because they just don't like the idea of trans people on some basic instinctual level, and they don't realise they have pretty strong cognitive dissonance around the fact that all the logic they create is simply to justify an inherent ick they have. These people should perhaps spend more time having an ick for the people who 'intrude' on others about the many, many far more dangerous problems humanity's facing right now.
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u/droppedpackethero 19h ago
And at the same time, if someone is bothering me about flat earth conspiracy or religion or even something benign like an anime fandom, I can tell them to shut up and go away with minimal-to-no repercussions.
But being faced with the false dichotomy of either fetishizing trans people or being trans myself, if I tell them to shut up and go away, there will be a sizable cadre of people who believe I myself have your proverbial "ick" rather than just being annoyed by the individual.
The allies enabling the bad actors are far more of the problem than the general community.
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u/Comfortable_Air5477 20h ago
Labelling things and putting them in boxes is definitely one of the fundamental problems with the world right now.
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u/LeahIsAwake 20h ago
It's gone too far, but labeling things is how we have the vocabulary to talk about them. Human brains need words. If something is identified as existing, it needs a name. And, unfortunately, humans being humans, we like to group things that we've attached a label to in the same box. It's actually one of our biggest superpowers, and it's how children learn about the world around them. But it can also go too far.
Example from this post: when I was growing up, I had no idea trans people existed, because there was no word for that. No label. It was a foreign concept. Then it was given a name, and that allows people who were trans to talk about their experiences. But it also allowed people who didn't know they were trans, who just spent their entire lives thinking something was fundamentally wrong with them and broken, to know that this is something that happens to other people too. Labelling it allowed them to conceptualize it, to learn about it, and to talk about it with others. More than that, it allows them to get the resources to do something about it if they so choose.
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u/Traylor_Swift 19h ago
“If something is identified as existing, it needs a name”
George Lucas/Star Wars fans heard this somewhere and reeeaally took it to heart
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u/Thrasy3 19h ago
I think the problem is just humans. We need labels to understand things, but then the label often becomes more important than the thing it represented.
I’m thinking about things like nationalism, or children brought up in sectarian conflict “mummy, why did uncle have to die?” “well you see we’re X’s and they are Y’s - that’s what Y’s do to X’s, always have done, so we have to be strong and fight back against Y’s - so remember, never trust a Y - they killed your uncle”
Or of course - “you’re not a real [whatever] - there are 10 factors that makes you a real [whatever] and you only possess 9 - and you have 3 factors of [the thing we decided was mutually exclusive somehow] , so you’re just a fraud trying to undermine what it means to be one of us!”
Or like in my country, people born with a certain medical condition were formally labelled one thing, over the years that word became an offensive insult, so now they have a different name - which at this point is also used as an insult.
And the classic - calling someone a Jew - even or rather especially if you are actually Jewish, can be incredibly offensive or hostile.
Of course - then people start blaming things being labelled as being the problem, so now some people are labelling labels as being inherently bad instead of what is actually bad.
Humans just can’t be trusted with language or thought or the ability to construct abstract narrative or meaning.
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u/Min_sora 19h ago
I feel like the war and the starvation and the endemic child rape is more of an issue, personally.
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u/Silverton13 20h ago
I am pretty sure we got bigger things going wrong with the whole right now my man.
Just because people didnt call you autistic back in the day doesn't mean you weren't autistic.
Same thing with sexuality. Being able to identify someone's sexuality isn't going to make anything worse for the world lol.
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u/Defiant-Apple-5486 19h ago
Yea I just realized a couple years ago that I'm autistic...spent my whole life just thinking I was broken and there was something wrong with me but had no idea what it was. Turns out I was right, but now I have a label for it.
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u/Legitimate-Sky-8963 12h ago
Right. But then there's assholes like the guy we're responding to who thinks labels are all bad.
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u/Legitimate-Sky-8963 20h ago
Yeah this catastriphizing of having a nomenclatures is kinda pathetic.
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u/myfancyplants 16h ago
You can have whatever feelings you want and we can think those feelings are hilariously cowardly
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u/lordnaarghul 21h ago
The 90s disagrees.
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u/Dos_Ex_Machina 21h ago
The 90s weren't better, you were just younger
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u/LovecraftianRaven 20h ago
I disagree. Things were cheaper, you could actually live off a salary, buying a house wasn't a fantasy. The divide among people weren't so grand. Social media wasn't a thing so idiots didn't have as much of a voice as they do now. Video game companies were more concerned with making a good game instead of trying to milk you dry. 9/11 and fallout that happened wasn't a thing. We had presidents who weren't a joke. Full on monopolies hadn't formed yet so products tended to be good and affordable. There were a lot of things in the 90s that made it better then the modern day.
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u/Dos_Ex_Machina 20h ago
By and large those are good points, and that's why reducing something to just "better" or "worse" doesn't really work. There's a bunch of stuff that was better, but there's also a bunch of stuff that's worse.
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u/thebigblackfeminist 20h ago
I get your sentiment, but BROTHER "The divide among people weren't so grand."
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u/Beneficial-Act-9933 20h ago
" Video game companies were more concerned with making a good game instead of trying to milk you dry."
What a huge slap in the face to modern day devs and looking through the past to rose tinted goggles. It's out right false
Gaming companies were absolutely trying to milk people dry. Do you have any idea how many bullshit peripherals they were releasing? Every week there was some new gizmo they were trying to sell for a hundred dollars. The power glove, the super scope, tons of controlers, the rumble vest. game shark, game genie, light guns, etc. Often they worked for one game.
Got stuck in a game? too bad, buy the magazine or pay for a help line.
The shovelware. My gods the shovelware, if a movie came out there were people trying to make a quick buck off of it. Or did you really think the people who made the Back to the future NES game really were passionate about making a game with three buggy stages with barely any connection to the movie.
Go get an emulator and look through the SNES or NES library. See how many you would pick if given the choice between modern day games and back then. Are you pikcing Paperboy or baldurs gate 3? ar youpicking Trog or Metal gear revengence? Are you picking Hades over james Pond?
I've been gaming my whole life, they were just as greedy back then as they are now. If the internet was around back then you would bet your ass they'd be selling DLC for donkey kong country.
And for the record, we have significantly more good games now than we ever did back then.
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u/External_Barracuda48 18h ago
The first form of gaming took quarters from you every time you lost three lives.
They been chasing that high ever since.
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u/TicketDouble 19h ago
Yep. Look outside the triple a live service slop market and you'll find more great games than you'll ever have time to play.
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u/GoldenSonOfColchis 20h ago
People were also openly homophobic, racism was even worse, and forget about being gender non-conforming. If you were a woman who dressed even remotely butch you'd be labelled a "dyke" and potentially cop a beating for your troubles.
Social Media wasn't present, no, but billionaire owned newspapers held disproportionate sway over countries politics. Professional rage baiting was still a thing, it was just in a column rather than on Twitter.
Also, the Gulf War, fallout of the collapse of the Soviet Union, and plenty of geopolitical instability.
The economy was better, for the most part, but there was a lot going on that made the 90's significantly worse than the modern day.
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u/Radolumbo 21h ago
just get off Reddit and you'll realize the vast majority of the world is not like what you see on the internet
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u/AthousandLittlePies 20h ago
Of all of the fucked up shit happening in the world right now, this is the thing that triggers a reaction from you? Like really, what's the harm in this, and how does if make the world worse?
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u/EscapeSeventySeven 20h ago
Like these words explain repeated phenomena. What’s wrong with them?
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u/mankytoes 18h ago
Declaring other people to be "eggs" is pretty creepy. Not really any better than telling a trans person they're wrong and they'll detransition, or telling someone they're wrong about their own sexuality.
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u/Nut_Butter_Fun 17h ago
So like there's two things going on here, and I will interrupt that teaser with the disclaimer that yeah there's always worse things going on, both those that are culminations of our cultural problems and those that are just people being evil. I won't take anything away from those things.
But we have a world where a lot of us are trying to steadily progress human rights, representative democracy, tolerance, separation of church and state. And not only have reactionaries worked against us, swaths of the population we want protected decide that we just aren't fucking edgy enough or that society and culture isn't complicated enough, that adults aren't bothered enough by what they are doing, or that they simply aren't seen and heard enough or lack a feeling of real identity or actualization and so we get all this stuff added on, invented, reinvented, disposed of, expanded on unnecessarily on and on and on, and it serves no purpose except to push critical segments into the arms of the fucking evil faction. Usually temporarily, but if you look at the last 20 years, we've had overall normalization of somewhat extreme cultural beliefs on both sides of this spectrum and a backpeddling of everything else.
And half of the content produced in favor of this culture war is meant to inflame, created by those wishing only to do this. Sometimes as trolls on the otherside, sometimes by trolls actually in favor, but still with the intent to elicit illogical emotion (as it's fine to elicit emotions that are appropriate to the situation).
So if you don't like what people are posting in response, keep in mind, most of this is intended by those who create the content, or intended by those who created similar content now being copied.
But these things rewire neurons and change the landscape and create more conflict where more people are hurt and ideals that were considered important 10 years ago become buried.
Try to see how it's all connected, recognize the state of our world, let alone the US, and it makes more sense. Some of us have been around a while and things are clearly degrading. The fucking traumas every time this electorate fails the good people has just piled up for so long now. Anyways, that's another post.
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u/PresentationLumpy113 20h ago
i hope you’re referring to the ‘chaser’ part rather than the ‘egg’ part
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u/la_bata_sucia 18h ago
i bet he's referring to the "trans existing and having terms to explain what they encounter" part
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u/o7Wolfcat 20h ago
Nothing about human behaviour has ever changed, big dawg, I promise you.
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u/AntimatterTNT 22h ago
damn that's pretty close minded thinking from a marginalized group
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u/SpaceIsTooFarAway 20h ago
The joke is that the two types of guys that want to date us are chasers (fetishize us) or eggs (trans in denial)
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u/Booker-DeShit 19h ago
Solution: go T4T. That guy has already decided he wants to stay a guy, so there's far less chance of him becoming a girl!
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u/testtdk 17h ago
Attraction isn’t always fetishization.
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u/KingdomsCryOfficial 11h ago
No one says it is. But "Chasers" do exist.
The stereotypical chaser is usually someone who will string a person along. They like the idea of having sex with/casually dating a trans woman, but don't want to commit to a relationship, so it's a lot of lovebombing and attentionbombing in order to get what they want without ever reciprocating like you'd expect any healthy relationship to be.
There's chasing, and then there's..... ADVANCED CHASING...,where a person is wholly fetishizing the person they chase and isn't interested in the human behind the fetish.
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u/SpaceIsTooFarAway 16h ago
Finds me attractive but won't tell his friends about me and expects me to behave like his mental stereotype of me? Not really.
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u/Ontothesubreddits 17h ago
There's finding you attractive, then there's seeing your existence as a kink yk? Feels veerryy different
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u/CanadianSyrup1994 16h ago
People in the fetish category dont wanna date. They just wanna try something new without commitment
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u/NightRacoonSchlatt 16h ago
Because that’s not what fetishisation is. Fetishisation ends in stuff like „owing“ sex and violent crimes.
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u/michealikruhara0110 16h ago
Its not about dating. Chasers are people who are only interested in sex, and lie about romantic interest to get in your pants. Its just a womanizer, a player, a lecher, a skirt chaser, all that with the added layer that it's about a specific fetish and not just hot women in general. And it makes dating when you're trans another level up on difficulty.
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u/AmberMetalicScorpion 21h ago
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u/Motor_Raspberry_2150 21h ago
Buzzer noise
It's this meme actually. It's a good meme sir.
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u/picollo7 16h ago
How is stardew valley earthbound? Never played sdv so legit asking.
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u/AmberMetalicScorpion 21h ago
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u/TemporaryElk5202 18h ago
It's not really though? The joke is that the people who are actively interested in dating trans people (like swipe on dating apps) are often either queer/trans themselves or have a fetish for trans people. It's not always the case but is VERY common. So this person found a BF to date and it turned out their BF was trans but had not stepped into that realization yet at the time.
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u/RicksSzechuanSauce1 21h ago
And more specifically, an egg refers to a M2F transgender person. The joke originating as "One day a chick popped out", although it has been more frequently used for F2M as well as of late
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u/transalt78987 18h ago
That’s actually revisionism, the “one day a chick popped out” thing was made up on reddit well after the term “egg” came to be.
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u/WineSauces 16h ago
Egg is gender-neutral has been since the beginning. You're just noticing a sampling bias.
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u/davebgray 20h ago
I thought the egg was a reference to something being unmendable once cracked. You can't unbreak an egg once you know that about yourself.
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u/IkariLoona 18h ago
I preefer the sense that a creature born from an egg is sort of born twice, first from the mpther, then from their own effort to leave the egg.
Not an interpretationI see often, but works in both directions...
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u/Solonotix 20h ago
As someone with no say in the matter, I think it's an apt term that doesn't directly convey any negative connotations. I do like the added pun of the original meaning, though.
But yeah, the idea of someone being "closeted" for their preferences in others makes a lot of sense, as the imagery of only being able to indulge in the privacy of your own. Added poignancy for young people who often only have a bedroom and a closet to call their own.
Meanwhile, calling a trans person closeted doesn't fit as well. Usually they are unaware that there is anything hidden, until they "hatch" into their true identity. Usually at that point is when the harms begin because they have left the minor safety of that "egg" and are now open to the dangers of the world.
So...yeah. I always liked the terminology of an "egg" being a trans person in-waiting, so to speak.
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u/Dinierto 21h ago
And that's the only two types of people? Guess I got some reflection to do
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u/Illustrious-Set-7907 20h ago
This seems like a "broke containment" tweet.
I think its a trans person making a joke about there only being two types of people interested in dating her as a trans person. Eggs or chasers.
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u/evocativename 21h ago
No, they're trying to avoid dating either of those two, and asked if he was one of the two (so they could turn him down if he was).
He says he is neither, which is why they end up dating him. And then they are frustrated because it turns out he was one of the two.
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u/Gotelc 12h ago
But its a ridiculous thing to ask. If they knew they were an egg they wouldn't be an egg... they would know they are trans.
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u/petrasdc 9h ago
I'm pretty sure it was a joke post. I don't think this is a real retelling of events.
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u/evocativename 12h ago
Presumably, the question was intended to cause some introspection on the topic, but I agree it is very unlikely to be productive.
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u/Jojosbees 21h ago
Not everyone falls into these two groups, but I guess when you’re trans, it’s low key suspicious when someone is immediately interested in you because a lot of the people who are are either fetishists who want you because you’re trans and don’t care about you as an individual (chasers) or they’re trans but haven’t realized that yet (egg). There’s nothing wrong with being trans, but presumably this person is only attracted to men, and she is disappointed when her boyfriend turns out to be a woman.
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u/Relative-Relief-8816 21h ago
What is it called if I was trans myself for a year.
Then I decided to detransition, but I am still interested in trans people, although not exclusively trans people.
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u/ChefCano 22h ago
Giant chicken here, because I know all about eggs.
An egg is someone who is trans and doesn't know yet, or won't admit it to themselves.
A chaser is someone who dates trans people. Sometimes used in a derogatory manner, especially if they fetishize trans people instead of seeing them as people.
There is a stereotype that a large number of eggs date trans people before they realize they are trans themselves.
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u/AdventurousCommon551 22h ago edited 21h ago
I have never understood this.
By using terms like this isn't it making it ok to tell people what they are? With this same logic all the people saying people really are "not gay they are just confused" are right.
So by this logic it's ok man. I know you think you are trans but you are really just confused.
I don't care if you are trans or not - just trying to show you how fucked up this logic is
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u/AegisThievenax 21h ago
Egg culture is extremely toxic, for a group that prides itself on removing gender labels and roles, trying to shove people into a label and role for acting non-standard to their gender is really gross.
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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 19h ago
I have a huge issue with some of the newer elements of the LGBT community.
Nearly a century trying to get away from labels and boxes.
And the newer lot label everything and want everyone in boxes.
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u/No_Deer_3949 8h ago
people say that the queer community has been trying to get away from labels and boxes but I never understood that. it seems to me that the majority of trans people are and always have been trying to go "hey, actually i'm THIS label, by the way!" or lesbians have been fighting to go "hey, i AM this label, i AM a lesbian, i AM in the box of people who are not attracted to men."
we've always been pro label. it looks to me that the biggest problem has been people respecting them.
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u/Square-Formal1312 20h ago
Entirety of whatever wave of liberalism we’re on. Everything has to be labeled and it has to be the CORRECT label and all the things and jfc can we just vibe
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u/BasedEmu 20h ago
Tribalism is one of the major points of the current wave.
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u/1Negative_Person 16h ago
Tribalism is part of the human condition. There has never been a time or society without tribalism being at its heart. It’s why we are here, and the Neanderthals and Denisonvans are not.
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u/Perfect_Pin2500 14h ago
This is my biggest problem when it comes to trying to fix the systems in which we live, mainly focusing on transphobia and homophobia in this conversation, but also addressing what I call "queer conservativism". The million dollar question we've been asking for decades now is "how do we stop hate?" And in short we can't. Our species has evolved to reference, categorize, and stereotype on the fly, because for thousands of years it's been the difference between life or death. In today's day and age though it's much more harmful on average to assume based on prior knowledge and the only way to fix the issue is balanced education and exposure to different types of people and situations. Unfortunately the current US administration isn't as dimwitted as they seem to be at times because they're aware of this and have been working hard for the additive six years now to deconstruct the public education system and make it harder and harder for international travel both in and out.
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u/stoppableDissolution 19h ago
And there is fifteen opinions on what is the correct label, and every month new snowflake decides that it wants its own the most correct label which goes viral and the spiral goes on.
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u/wazeltov 19h ago
Let's back up a step here:
This is a result of unfettered internet culture where interaction is entirely based on text.
This has nothing to do with liberalism or progressive attitudes. The internet has caused everyone to label everything in order to advertise and search on the internet as a necessary condition to being able to utilize the internet in general.
Case and point: you never hear these terms offline, unless you're part of the specific audience that would use these terms, and only then if your in-person community has members that participate in online communities as well.
No one is using "egg" in a serious manner in person. It would be extremely cringe inducing to do so, for the exact reasons that others have pointed out. It's extremely anti-social to call someone closeted, which calling someone an "egg" is the most similar to.
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u/Ok-Relationship4113 19h ago
I first heard the term "egg" offline, actually. I have a friend who is in uni for psychology, and her class is VERY stilted in its LGBTQ student numbers, according to her.
My friend is quite androgenous and doesn't act very feminine. A few of her classmates casually called her an "egg" to her face.
Perhaps those people are online too much, but I can attest to the fact that it can happen outside of social media. And it is, indeed, cringe as fuck.
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u/Demon_of_Order 17h ago
Had someone call me an egg before as well, didn’t exactly like that. Especially since there’s no good reason for that, I don’t act or dress feminine, I’m just your average nerdy dude, feels like some people try to push you into it
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u/Aiwatcher 12h ago
That sucks, and was really rude to you. I admit im curious about the context. Like did they think it was funny to call you egg? Like they were in on something you didnt know yet?
Seems super demeaning to just assume you know more about someone than they know themselves.
I feel like we should probably only be using this term retrospectively not descriptively. Like "when I was an egg".
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u/Thin_Exit4917 18h ago
Its about as cringe as suggesting that trans individuals aren't really trans and are just mentally ill.
ie: its just the abuse cycle pattern playing out in real time.
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u/Ok-Relationship4113 18h ago
I recently ended a friendship over that rhetoric.
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u/retroman1987 16h ago
I feel like there is a weird like between being nice and propping up someone else's delusion. It isn't know ND or good to allow people you care about to live in fantasyland.
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u/average-eridian 18h ago edited 18h ago
I think I mostly agree with you but with some caveats.
I agree that this doesn't necessarily relate to liberalism or progressive attitudes, but I think the boundary between the internet and real life is thinner than you give it credit for.
I also accept that the nature of the social media can lead to over labeling online. We can influence the direction, people as a whole, I also feel like we see a constant deeper and deeper churn on all of these ideas, sometimes with the ideas getting further away from how they started, and then we often see a greater sense of disconnection between people caused by the how the new ideas are just generally further away. And then we see real life being influenced by these ideas that went through this feedback loop.
I don't think it's a leap to argue that some people who identify themselves as progressives can be so influenced that they eventually feel the need to hold onto these ideas and truly live them to still identify as progressives, because there's a good chance that they see that so much from their own niche community online.
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u/TheJapanMistake 17h ago
So many people thought I was a closeted something when I grew up and even convinced me I was...
I was not lol I was just weird 😭
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u/Flashbang-Meringue 17h ago edited 17h ago
I stopped hanging out with a decade long friend because they became trans and were constantly accusing everyone in our group of being an egg. It was legitimately like being back in 5th grade where you couldn't say anything even slightly sideways without getting called GAY, except now saying something TOO masculine or TOO feminine would get me called EGG.
I consider myself an ally but I can't help but think that a huge majority of the trans communities problem is thinking everyone pays attention to gender and perception as much as they do. They wonder why they feel isolated when they can't shut the fuck up about it and drive everyone else away.
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u/AegisThievenax 14h ago
This happened to me with some people in my friend group and it drove me up the wall. I am comfortable with my gender, just because I like traditionally effeminate things doesnt mean I want to become a woman.
Its, ironically, an extremely bigoted thing to do to begin with. "You like female things so you must be a girl" is literally just the dismissive playground talk kids told each other when they were young.
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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 16h ago
I don't think it inherently is a problem with trans or LGBTQ, but online echo chambers. Most queer spaces online have turned into echo chambers where all anyone talks about is gender and sexuality and occasionally how great the USSR and north Korea. They spend all their time online in these spaces and forget how to interact like a human being.
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u/Used-Lake-8148 16h ago
Nah it’s always been an inherent problem with the culture. That feminine lisp voice some gay dudes put on is a great example of self-isolating behavior.
The vast majority of the time, no one gives a flying fuck where you like to stick your dick. They’re just trying to get through the day. Shoehorning your sexual identity into every interaction and putting it on full display constantly is just off-putting and inappropriate.
And that goes for everything, not just being queer. All your clothes have a weed leaf on them? Cringe. All you talk about is your jacked up truck? Cringe. Making your whole identity about one thing is just irritating no matter what that thing is.
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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 15h ago
Every neurotypical human gives cultural, gender or sexual signifiers that's not necessarily cringe that's just human behavior. It especially rational that gay men would want to publicly signify they're gay when the gay male dating pool is like 3% of the population at maximum opposed to 50% for heterosexuals.
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u/Used-Lake-8148 14h ago
Sure it’s rational when they’re looking for a date, but in other settings it often comes across as inappropriate and makes people uncomfortable. And again, that’s not exclusive to being queer. Wearing a 420 t-shirt to a business meeting probably won’t do you any favors either
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u/ThomasVivaldi 13h ago
You have to wonder how much of that is due to bad actors in those spaces reinforcing the toxic behaviors among impressionable people.
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u/CheriColaProduct 21h ago
Hey random trans person here
Always hated the egg thing
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u/Zrkkr 20h ago
I also find it funny how they'll lable every femboy or crossdresser an egg, like damn I thought we were supposed to be getting rid of gender norms.
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u/Friendly_Pride_4904 19h ago
Fuck, I hate that. Femboys are femboys, sometimes a guy just likes to look pretty, doesn't mean that he's trans for fucks sake. Maybe some are, but do I really need to pull out the old "#notall"?
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u/CrabWoodsman 19h ago
Many trans people are ultimately in favour of gender norms and simply want to be on the other side of them, and hold distorted ideas about them as well.
Certainly not universal, but trans people are no more universally progressive nor level-headed than the average person.
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u/asphid_jackal 21h ago
My understanding is that it's perfectly fine to label yourself and egg, and perfectly toxic to label someone else an egg
Similar to how it's fine to say that you used to be in the closet but it's offensive to say other people are in the closet
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u/dustyjuicebox 18h ago
I'm confused, can you even label yourself an egg if the definition requires not knowing you're trans?
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u/asphid_jackal 17h ago
It's more of a looking back type label. Less "I am an egg" and more "back when I was still an egg"
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u/MysteriousArtPatron 21h ago
My rule of thumb is that it's ok to think someone might be an egg but it's wrong to try to push them one way or the other or out them. You only really know if they were an egg when they come out. It's best to only use it to refer to yourself before you realized you were Trans. You shouldn't refer to other people as eggs or dismiss them as eggs.
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u/Princelyprincessboy 21h ago
(keep in mind I'm not trans fem and people tend to use egg to describe trans fem people)
I think egg stuff started as well intentioned-trans people tend to show similar "flags" so to speak that might indicate their identity. Same could really be said for any lgbt identity. Or neurodivergence. Or literally anything that goes "against the norm" for lack of a better phrase. Trans people often see these flags in others because it's behaviors they exhibited as well. And of course there's room for error and one or two signs doesn't mean something, but if person a feels like person b is just them five years ago being brought back to life then there's probably a reason ya know?
The problem with it is people now take it and slap "egg" on anyone who is even slightly gnc even if they're a complete stranger and then try to force it on the person to their face. The key is to stick with people you are very close to like friends, family, and partners, and not force it on them to their face. Talk to mutual friends if you feel the need to, offer gentle guidance if the person is in need and expressed that need, and be encouraging rather than forceful and in their face. Otherwise if you do happen to be right you may end up just delaying their transition.
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u/Orthas 15h ago
Yeah, I'm cis myself but had a very good experience where my best friend kind of helped me figure out I'm autistic. They were super gentle about it and mostly just talked about their own experiences figuring it out and getting diagnosed. It helped having that safe space to get over that knee-jerk negative reaction.
Some one I don't know seeing me tap my fingers on my leg and trying to tell me that I'm stimming and denying my true self? I'd have locked up and probably denied it for another few years.
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u/Ok-Influence-5349 20h ago
I think the whole "egg" thing started because it was a more discreet way to ask someone when they figured out they were trans than just asking outright (especially if they're passing)
Saying "oh when did your egg crack?" sounds odd but its reasonable enough that people probably wont bother questioning it, saying "oh when did you figure out you were trans" quite openly outs someone as trans. It kinda got co-opted by bad actors and made toxic for reasons other people have explained.
Thats my understanding of the egg situation but I'm not entirely sure.
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u/BetterThanOP 21h ago
Agreed. Also seems to reinforce the idea that a cis straight make would never date a trans woman which kind of goes against their whole thing of a trans woman just being a woman.
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u/OhImNevvverSarcastic 21h ago
Yeah, egg culture is toxic af, but you won't get a lot of brownie points for saying so on Reddit.
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u/AdventurousCommon551 21h ago
Who wants brownie points - I want freaking brownies with the cream cheese swirls on top..... Slightly undercooked.... Maybe a glass of milk
If culture is toxic say so or a factory is made
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u/BeneficialRip6350 20h ago
Actually there's a ton of pushback against it on reddit nowadays (rightfully so). 5-10 years ago it was ridiculous
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u/lunar1099 20h ago
This is honestly the reason that I don’t tell people that I’m queer at all. Because no matter what I just end up pissing off homophobes because I’m not straight and I end up pissing off the community for merely existing as myself
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u/AdventurousCommon551 20h ago
I had a group of LGBT friends that we used to game and such. I don't really know what the big deal with any of this stuff is.
They all thought I was like closet gay or something because when they found out I was not, suddenly we couldn't talk or play games anymore?
I still play games with one dude from the group and even he doesn't understand. It's like they found out I don't go to brown town and decided I didn't belong. Was a friend group for over a year before the radical shift.
I'm just a dude doing dude activities and don't give a f what people want to do with whoever. I talk to everyone as if they had the same freaking gender.
LGBT people are so cool but kind of assholes over weird shit. And idk - maybe they just thought I was a freaking egg or a chaser. But they lost a friend 😞
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u/lunar1099 20h ago
Not exactly what I meant. There’s a weird level of animosity between different sub groups of the community. For me, I’m pan and get a lot of shit from gay men that either I’m “just being a fence sitter” or that I’m “in denial” or that I’m “just doing it to be trendy”. Honestly the same animosity gets levied at bi people, and ace people. It’s always turned me off from wanting to hang out in queer spaces because it feels weirdly unwelcoming, especially because I’m not visually queer
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u/FunyJackal 17h ago
My bi boyfriend and I talk a lot about how so many LGBT people end up basically self-segregating. It's not good for them and they miss out on so many things because of it. We see Facebook posts about guys looking for "LGBT" barber. Just go to a barber? There is a clear sentiment in some of these LGBT clubs they they don't "need" cis-hetero people, and that somehow translates to not wanting to interact with cis-hetero people...the majority of people.
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u/SnooGadgets9967 21h ago
Don't worry! It is a common understanding among the community that you never tell a person if you read them as an egg. Doing so is regarded as unethical, for a) exactly the reason you state, and b) because if it is true that they are trans, you potentially delay their inner process by years, as they now have to examine whether their feelings are authentic or a product of your suggestion.
That being said usually pattern recognition is pretty good in that regard and most eggs turn out to be actually trans or at least queer in some other way.
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u/lordnaarghul 20h ago
The correct thing to do is to not make assumptions at all. If they are Trans, they'll figure it out in their own good time.
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u/Chip_Medley 15h ago
I mean it’s pattern recognition so it’s kind of unavoidable, they important thing is to not act on the information
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u/tin_can_fucker 20h ago
I had to stop being friends with a trans friend. She keeps telling me I'm trans and it is so infuriating and condescending. She acts like my gender identity as a feminine man is invalid.
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u/SunStarved_Cassandra 15h ago
Same but opposite. I'm a lifelong tomboy. I had a friend who transitioned (FtM) who kept telling me I was an egg.
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u/Ethicaldreamer 21h ago
Is the implication that they break through the egg and a chick comes out?
Or that they literally break out of their shell? Or is the etymology caused by something else?
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u/waxteeth 20h ago
No, a chaser is someone who fetishizes trans people. You can date or fuck trans people without being a chaser. Signed, a trans person.
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u/Independent-Wafer-13 20h ago
This stereotype dichotomy kind of quietly undermines the validity of trans people’s genders doesn’t it?
Like people who date trans people are either dating them because they are trans or because they are a fetish object?
Is this just the unfortunate reality of trans dating that you simply don’t pull “regular” heterosexual men as a trans woman and vice versa for trans men?
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u/SilverSquirrel6 22h ago
Hank Hill here,
Tell you what, the term egg means trans who hasn't realized it yet, and chaser is something along the lines of fuckboy - a person interested in trans only for sex/fetish reason. So the situation is that after dating trans person the guy realizes he's trans himself.
Don't see what the humor is, though. Like propane. There's absolutely nothing humorous about propane.
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u/joshuahtree 21h ago
Rusty Shackleford here. This is an imposter Hank replaced by the Rothschilds during his stint in Saudi Arabia in order to shove all the trans people into chicken eggs! The real Hank would never even acknowledge sex much less explain it to the entire Internet – which is controlled by the government-alien task force! 🚬
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u/SilverSquirrel6 21h ago
This boy ain't right ! As a proud Texan I stand up for what's right, even if it means I have to watch hours upon hours of porn. https://kingofthehill.fandom.com/wiki/Hank%27s_Dirty_Laundry
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u/TheGreatLeapingDingo 20h ago
aside from the chaser and egg thing this post is also using a meme post template. i just can't remember how the original goes, but the "they're good X miss" is the give away. (so likely just a joke and not something that happened)
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u/musnteatd1ckagain 21h ago
Ah yes because dating a person means Im either trans or a fetishist. Cant just like them for them🙄
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u/Ch33sus0405 14h ago
Its not a joke, its frustration because the person posting this doesnt want to date either of those people and tried to be up front about that but the boyfriend turned out to be Trans, likely something they didnt know at the time.
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u/pong-and-ping 17h ago
The joke is that it's unfortunately way too common for this to be the case (like really, it sucks).
But the joke has reached the wrong audience now clearly, it was originally posted in trans subs who have mostly experienced that first hand or know the sub context. So it's all a little lost now.
Dating anyone should be because you like them for then, always. Especially liking a trans person for being themselves, in this world we live in, that really means a lot.
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u/loosegriplarry 20h ago
In addition to everyone explaining the terms, this is referencing another greentext

Being based is good, cringe is bad, so the structure of the meme here is that you want reassurance that X thing is gonna be good, not bad, but it ends up being bad anyway.
So, with chasers vs eggs, you would think him being a chaser would be the bad outcome. But the joke is OP actually wants a chaser bf.
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u/numbersthen0987431 20h ago
Chasers persue and fetishize transpeople. Eggs are people who are "pre trans" (they will transition later, but haven't been open about it yet).
Both terms are extremely toxic, and only toxic people talk about other people like this
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u/Little-Ghost303 21h ago
Egg culture is grooming.
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u/Throwaway_Raccoon2 19h ago
I guess. Thats why most trans communities generally frown upon calling other people Eggs, lol
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u/smileymonster08 18h ago
I think it's ok to use the term in hindsight or like if the person themselves is the one making claims.
Howevr yeah it can be so toxic in some spaces. I know a local support group for trans people that is basically just a grooming club that tries to tell every autistic lonely guy that they are actually an egg and that they will help them crack their egg.
Also they of course want to pressure you into joining their giant polycule orgy. To make it worse the age gaps are pretty extreme in some of these relationships. Just turned 18 with a 38 year old who is "teaching" them how to be a woman.
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u/Eikuld 16h ago
I remembered when 196 or whatever its called and the egg subreddit used to be prevalent on my popular page. One of the things that stood out to me was this one meme saying its okay to push feminine guys into becoming trans with generic cutesy anime girl thingy and a lot seem to be onboard whoof. Thought it was weird haha
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u/ShingledPringle 22h ago
If I recall and Egg is someone who is transgender but hasn't realised it yet. Like, not denial/in the closet just not there? And chaser means they have a specific trait they fetishes in the people they date.
Egg thing may apply to those that are gay to but in the same situation.
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u/Imaginary_Winner4909 17h ago
Everyone who talks or posts like this will eventually stop when they reach a higher mental maturity, or have enough responsibilities in their life that they begin acting like a normal person. A person will eventually be bogged down by the weight of life and evolve from their meme filled thought patterns. Life is too annoying, too disappointing, and too exhausting for these types of people to exist in the form they currently are. Egg and chaser bullshit gimme a break. When they're in their 30s, they will hopefully realize nobody gives a shit about their meme language.
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u/Moon_Monk676 14h ago
Well an egg is the embryonic offspring of reptiles, birds, and fish. And platypuses.
A chaser is something like some sprite or coke or juice that you drink right after drinking a shot.
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u/Appropriate_Word1469 20h ago
The loudest part of trans community are unfortunately the fucking weirdos
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u/hiihihihihihihihiihi 18h ago
Yeah unfortunately. I tried doing some community stuff when I first transitioned but other than the fact that we were all trans I had nothing in common with most of them and just felt super uncomfortable with most of the shit they talked about.
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u/DC2SEA_ 22h ago edited 17h ago
Trans folks refer to people who are likely to transition in the future as "eggs" which carries connotations of being closeted or just not having figured it out yet.
A chaser is someone who seeks specific characteristics for their kink. The trans community often has to deal with folks who pursue specifically trans folks.
OOP, who in this context is likely trans, is wondering if their boyfriend is an egg, that they may transition in the future, or a chaser, that they are dating OOP for being trans.
Their boyfriend denies being either, and OOP is coyly saying "they're an egg" which is to say they either later transitioned, or otherwise gave indication.
There is an undertone of sentiment and love here, I think.
gigty
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