r/LivestreamFail • u/Vegetable-Local-9840 • 2d ago
Drama StableRonaldo got heated on stream after Myth accused him and the former FaZe members of having their viewers botted by FaZe Banks
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u/NexrayOfficial 2d ago
For a guy like Stable Ronldo who intentionally ragebaits people as content (scripted or not) to be upset is kinda cathartic to see.
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u/Hellwinter 1d ago
I'm not even sure his ragebaiting is intentional this kid is just so fucking stupid (genuinely dumb) he might just tilt people by chance.
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u/NexrayOfficial 1d ago
I feel its a mix of both. He clearly has the audience that probably buys into the ragebait and when I did see him talk on that one interview about his analytics and money, he does have some sense in finance at least.
Regardless, can’t say I’ve watch an actual stream from this guy.
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u/130nard0 2d ago
Myth said Faze banks viewbotted Ron behind his back, and Ron gets defensive and says he never viewbotted a day in his life.
Yeah Ron might need 3rd grade reading lessons icl
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u/kingpussay 2d ago
Its also weird that he mentioned before that he had faze management recommending him to get viewbots when he first started out his career but he is acting like he can't possibly get viewbotted
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u/Alive-Map-1994 2d ago
His denial was an admission of guilt. He is getting defensive because he view botted himself, they all do. It’s why he went on vacation when Twitch took down view bots for a week.
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u/Pr0spect 2d ago
Their entire groups success stems from artificial growth through paid clipping and viewbotting
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u/XiXiWiiPee 2d ago
he never went on vacation that week every botter went into hiding
u are just lying and its being upvoted lol
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u/Heartagram23 2d ago
Kinda how this place runs tbh. No actual facts go around
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u/XiXiWiiPee 2d ago edited 2d ago
its crazy cuz i remember him and jason were some of the few big streamers that were streaming the day of the bot purge and duration of the end of august when twitch was cracking down on viewbots and weren't affected
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u/GeneralSEOD 2d ago
It runs on good faith, we assume people aren't lying on the internet. Shocking I know. But if someone counter acts it, people should heavily downvote it.
Reddit probably should have a community note system similar to twitter that alerts people that interacted with it tbh.
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u/DeucesX22 1d ago
Isnt it supposed to be reversed. I thought you werent supposed to believe everything you see on the internet? Times have really made philosophies change.
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u/Seven2Death 2d ago edited 1d ago
watch this ... hasan abuses his dog!
edit: crazy how this "actual factual"TM gets downvoted when i call out people brining it up needlessly. its crazy.
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u/XiXiWiiPee 2d ago
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The comment is saying he went on vacation, I am saying he didn't. Read it again
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u/ChampagneSyrup 2d ago
I found a guy on twitch recently that was like a wannabe gym/alphamind supplement peddler playing valorant. He had 90 viewers locked for 1 hour straight with zero chat movement besides his mod, and kept flexing that he had viewers and was blowing up etc. Claiming he was Radiant in Val but had mechanics like a gold player.
Eventually I just said he was viewbotting and lying about peaking Radiant and he absolutely melted down. Banned me, talked about me for 30 minutes and then got off. Made me chuckle so hard
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u/Juno_Malone 1d ago
Same with a friend from high school. He's been streaming racing games/call of duty the last few years, always to 1-5 viewers. A couple months ago, out of the blue, his viewcount was consistently in the 90-110 range. With absolutely zero interaction in chat outside of the couple regulars. I sent a joking message along the lines of "wow dude, your stream is blowing up!" and he got very defensive despite me not actually (directly, at least) insinuating he was viewbotting.
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u/InternationalGas9837 2d ago
Shirtless guys not near water reliably say some of the stupidest shit.
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u/smktr33 1d ago
Yes but if you put it into the context that if he was botted he wouldve known based on his analitics because you dont get ad revenue after botted views. And he did say that he shown all his analitics. Its more like failing 8th grade level of understanding things on your part. There I have to defend shouting zoomer streamers because LFS cant believe that anyone is being more popular than their favourite streamers from the ultra funny OG circlejerk streamer club.
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u/ASS_BASHER 2d ago edited 2d ago
Either way, his views aren't any different before and after leaving FaZe or before/after the viewcap happened like it did to Emiru or Banks himself. Banks went from 30k viewers to 1k after the bot purge. Emiru went from 20k to 12k. Ron basically stayed the same.
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u/hsien88 2d ago
Wtf are you saying he’s averaging 10k more viewers now vs last year.
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u/ASS_BASHER 2d ago edited 2d ago
...right, so Myth's claim that Banks viewbotted him doesn't make much sense. If Banks was viewbotting Faze “behind their backs”, then they would’ve had lower viewers after they left but they didn’t.
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u/AnswerAi_ 2d ago
This dude would make fun of everybody non-stop, but say something that hurts his feelings all the sudden hes gonna cry about it.
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u/Abel2TheMoon 2d ago
He has a meltdown anytime sodapoppin mentions his name its so funny because soda is obviously joking and doesn't care lol
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u/RussianPravda 2d ago
If you get offended by sodapoppin making fun of you its pretty telling. He's usually just trying to have fun with it and not make it weird, yet some people make it weird.
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u/JeaniousSpelur 2d ago
Crybullies are the worst people, and social media is full of famous crybullies
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u/infinitay_ 2d ago
You summed up every streamer ever. Quick to drama farm and hate, but as soon as their on the other end of it, they'll flip out and can't handle it.
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u/Ferret_Rough 2d ago
He’s like 5’4” no duh he has ego problems
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u/AerieDapper6384 2d ago
This is so unnecessary lol, why can't people just call out bad people for being bad people without attacking their physical appearance
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u/ASS_BASHER 2d ago
Because in most cases, people are bad because of some sort of insecurity.
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u/AerieDapper6384 2d ago
Then I'm sure targeting that insecurity will make them become better people and prevent others with the same insecurity from being radicalized even further lol
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u/runnyyyy 2d ago
he had a meltdown over LSF when he got called out for being a shit and inconsiderate driver
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u/CookiesMeow 2d ago
Ahh yes calling out view botters is making fun of them… I’m sure they had very non emotional comebacks.
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u/MesocosmFather 2d ago
Ron talking about “drop the ego” lmao. That kid has the biggest ego just because he has money and acts like a moron.
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u/RussianPravda 2d ago
Someone needs to tell him that the shitty T1, viggy, mccool bit has been played out and isnt his thing. Let's see how he handles that.
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u/KoreanSamgyupsal 2d ago
Ron has a giant ego ever since he climbed back out of falling off. I applaud him for being a grinder. But if Faze and banks didn't pick him up, he'd be in a similar position with Myth except he'll have no friends.
I hate Banks but he pretty much accelerated these guys careers. Lacy/Jason/Ron would be absolute nobodies grinding with 1k or less viewers if Banks didn't fund the climb up.
Banks has connections to these clip channels. He's been doing it since the trickshot days. He's using the same exact formula.
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u/Due-Score9970 2d ago
Myth hit some soft spots. Bro got way too heated.
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u/Ishaan863 2d ago
Yep. Myth didn't even say "you viewbotted"
And like....we know what Banks is like. We know what's up with the viewbotting situation now with hindsight.
Myth is saying the most obvious shit
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u/Ranger_Aggressive 1d ago
He bscly said. "People say you've viewbotted before, here's a way to show people it might now have been you but your crazy ex boss." Stable said "nah i'm good."
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u/CatchAcceptable3898 2d ago
Based. We can be confident Myth doesn't view bot.
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u/ZYRANOX 2d ago
myth view count is really low for how famous he is tbh.
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u/NojoNinja 2d ago
I mean I don’t think he cares. He’s also thrown away his audience countless times not that thats a bad thing necessarily. He was big with fortnite but quit it because he didn’t like it, killed his audience in doing so. Switched to apex and gained viewers back but quit that too because he didn’t like it and killed his second audience, got big again on valorant and quit that because he didn’t like it and lost 50% of his viewers, and then he took the YouTube deal and killed his entire career.
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u/Rude-Violinist-2119 2d ago
You shouldn't be losing so much of your fan base due to switching games like that
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's an ignorant take, I think. It's notoriously difficult for streamers to transition away from one-game streamers to variety streamers. Attempting to do so often results in people losing tons of viewers. Usually how it goes down is that people try it and their view count plummets and they get understandably scared and never try variety again. Transitioning to variety means doing things like playing their main game for 75% of stream and playing some other game for the last 25% of stream and then doing that for a long time to "train" the audience into staying tuned to variety.
I guess success or failure at the transition is basically about what percentage of the streamer's entertainment is due to their gameplay rather than their own ability to entertain via their personality, but even that is overly simplistic.
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u/Cause_and_Effect ♿ Aris Sub Comin' Through 1d ago
Not really. It all depends if you are a streamer known for your personality or a streamer known for a game. Game oriented streamers have a very hard time transitioning to variety gaming because people were typically only watching them for that game.
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u/ZYRANOX 2d ago
i dont think you lose ur fanbase just because you switch games. some streamers change their fps games all the time and contain the viewers. some streamers even try every fps game out there that gets even slightly popular
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u/LostMyMainRedditAcc 2d ago
You definitely lose viewers switching games. You can still be a fan of someone, but not have any interest in watching them play a game you don’t relate to or is just boring to watch.
An example off the top of my head was when shroud played the first descendant. His viewership dropped and he said the game isn’t good enough for him to not care about viewership, so he moved onto the next game.
Another example was when Ninja averaged like 200k viewers in 2018. There was like a week where everyone tried the Realm Royale game and his numbers dropped significantly. He obviously had a huge fan base, but it’s clear they wanted Fortnite content.
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u/HempFanboy 1d ago
??? Streamer plays game I play? I watch. Plays game I don’t? I don’t watch. What’s the confusion?
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u/instructi0ns_unclear 11h ago
depends on the game depends on the streamer. rust for example not a single rust creator gets more than 25% of their rust peak on anything else and its claimed a lotttt of names that tried
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u/Chadsawman 2d ago
I mean I think Myth is fine from what I'm looking at, just obviously nowhere near his prime. But I feel like that happened with a lot of those from the fortnite wave, even guys like Tfue and Ninja to an extent whittled down a lot for almost similar reasons. Some creators I used to watch don't even post anymore lol
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u/KoreanSamgyupsal 2d ago
Cause he isn't a sell out. He wanted to play things he wanted. He wanted to be a pro player not a content creator. He got burned by the industry early. Hamlinz and Dae with Myth was the best content of the Fortnite era. But Myth wanted to be a pro but the other guys didn't despite TSM forming this team to compete. He mentioned this on a podcast.
He gets invited to things like Shitcon/camp and countless events and he also saw people burning each other after spending a weekend bonding. So he isn't going to sell his soul for views and it's so underrated in this industry.
He could have just went back to fortnite but he didnt. He posted 1 fortnite video and it instantly got 700K views compared to his 10-20k view videos. But did he continue making fornite videos? Nope. Continued to post what he liked.
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u/banal_remarks 2d ago
Myth was at one point a top 5 streamer. He lost massive viewership, moved to YouTube, lost even more viewership, and now is averaging 2k viewers while collabing with 10k streamers and hitting peak viewership at 600 viewers otherwise.. As you said, I think it's a safe call he's not viewbotting lol
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u/AlerionOP 2d ago
Im convinced 99% of all big streamers from the last 5 years viewbotted to the top. Its really just like buying your way into music industry and getting your song spammed on the radio and boom famous
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u/Reasonable-Cap3389 2d ago
Yesterday only he started streaming and in 2 mins he had 20-25k viewers, Thats not botting then what else is it?
Lacy had 35k in first 5mins for past 3-4 streams, he acknowledge it as botting and says he is not botting it, somebody else did it.
Its so easy to spot.
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 1d ago
I think the part that upsets me isn't even the viewbotting, but the audacity to not even try to intelligently hide the viewbotting by gradually increasing the view count over a long period of time.
They know the viewership numbers can be seen by anyone on third party websites tracking it. It can't be that hard to hide viewbotting well. I have to think there is competition among viewbotting services and that one major feature one of those competitors could offer is automation of the process of gradually increasing viewbots to mimic a real viewership growth curve over the course of one stream.
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u/thedickbones 2d ago edited 2d ago
He’s shown his analytics where his subs always track to his avg viewers tho. He has notifications go out too, and his YouTube vids average around 400k views. I get how it’s a lot but idk how u can just say that man. Didn’t Xqc try to expose all the big view botters and never called out Ron? & doesn’t Xqc also get similar numbers off the jump? Like I get this sub doesn’t like the guy but like geez man there’s like little to no evidence this guy has been botted.
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u/MeowingNaci 2d ago
Bro really read his comment and said the exact opposite of what myth said. reading comprehension of a newborn
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u/Ogamiitto33 2d ago
Of course they're botting. Everyone does it.
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u/Thunbbreaker4 2d ago
I honestly have no clue what viewer numbers to believe anymore when I watch a stream. So many people are obviously botting with thousands of "viewers" but chat moves like there is 200 people in there.
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u/Nature_Electrical 2d ago
the crazy part is that they bot almost every social they have, its a company doing it for sure
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u/Ogamiitto33 2d ago
Let's also keep in mind that their agencies have an incredible incentive to either encourage view botting or do it themselves.
As someone who's worked in media for nearly 16 years, this is a very likely scenario.
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u/RussianPravda 2d ago
I've worked in traditional media production my whole adult life and at first social media presence was new to a lot of the people I worked with and they HATED it. The reason they hated it was because they couldnt curate it they way they wanted. So they would get really upset when people took photos backstage without permission. They wanted to decide every picture that went online.
Now that social media IS the way they get attention there is no way they arent boosting that stuff every chance they get and trying to take down everything they dont want. Its control thing.
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u/LtSMASH324 🐷 Hog Squeezer 2d ago
Eh, some streamers surely have more lurkers than others. Some chats are definitely faster per viewer than others. It's hard to know for sure, and hard to know if someone else is viewbotting their stream for them without their consent.
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u/Professional-Pungo 2d ago
I mean, I can understand it a little but...why would it matter much?
I watch a streamer because I like the streamer, not because he has so many viewers.
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u/Ogamiitto33 2d ago
Yeah, I hear you. I just assume any known streamer is botting/knowingly being botted.
It's kind of like pro cycling - everyone is doping, if you don't you fall behind.
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u/Rude-Violinist-2119 2d ago
Ron's not an example of that is the thing though. He actually has one of the most active chats when it was ranked
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 1d ago
That's just not true but of course quite a few do it. Going after viewbotters is one of the best things Twitch ever did.
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u/Suspicious-Carrot924 2d ago
Obviously money was dumped into promoting all the faze streamers during that reboot they did I couldn’t get those clipping accounts off my feed
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u/wubbaduq 2d ago
why he is getting defensive about what banks probably did behind his back
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u/thedickbones 2d ago
Because the idea that his success wasn’t due to his hard work and rather someone gaming the system behind is back is not something he wants to believe.
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u/Maximum-Ferret1938 2d ago
every human on the platform knows the first faze subathon was massively viewbotted.
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u/Arrowdynamic__ 2d ago
Why tf is Myth going viral rn? Theres nothing new going on
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u/jhascal23 2d ago
"Most of the biggest streamers have been caught botting, BUT NOT US BRO! We have too much integrity"
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u/Intelligent-Arm3629 2d ago
Crazy apparently people can even bot chats to be active, I’m guessing it works on chats where emotes or words are spam
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u/Jamieb1994 2d ago
So, this lad gets upset because he's been called upset, yet there he is calling someone a r****d.
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u/kazcinco 2d ago
Considering how hard and shameless banks botted during his recent comeback, this is believable.
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u/Fragrant-Moose1678 1d ago
Everytime I’ve seen myth in 2026 he’s just spamming the n word every other sentence… like I get he’s “allowed” to but it’s so corny bro
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u/Ranger_Aggressive 1d ago
Wasn't he the ragebait/troll guy. Weird how on this topic he became al serious all of the sudden...
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u/seaperrt 1d ago
Faze banks viewbotted them all lmao and just cause they weren’t aware doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening
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u/sonicxdelta 1d ago
its funny how much of a open secret this stuff is and yet people still gotta keep up the act
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u/Shiresan 1d ago
Is Gen Z making the r word come back? I know gutting education over decades has been disastrous for the younguns but I guess now we're also regressing?
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u/AdWeird7366 1d ago
"You don't think banks was viewbotting you behind your back?"
"I never viewbotted a day in my life if YOU THINK I VIEWBOT? YOU M-"
Bro didn't deny it
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u/Visual-Economics-819 2d ago
the fact that he got defensive over him accusing banks, and not himself, of viewbotting is really weird and just makes him seem more suspicious lol, i never really suspected stableronaldo of viewbotting since his chat has always been among the most active on all of twitch but idk
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u/Weak_Access7766 2d ago
I think it was a combo of what Myth said in his chat and a clip of Myth talking to NMP about viewbotting and mentioning the Faze boys a few days prior to that
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u/RussianPravda 2d ago
"going viral right now?" because a security guard knew him? wtf is this moron talking about?
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u/Rude-Violinist-2119 2d ago
There's been a bunch of popular Tiktoks making fun of him during his Fortnite days. And now it's become a trend
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u/HankHillbwhaa 2d ago
I don’t watch Ron but myth is mad that he fell the fuck off
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u/whatdoyoufear123 2d ago
Myth couldn’t give less fucks, he’s chillin streaming to sub 100 viewers after getting the bag.
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u/Abel2TheMoon 2d ago
The difference is Myth is still enjoying life and seems like a good guy. When this guy starts losing viewers its going to be sad to watch.
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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ 2d ago
you have no clue about his history then. why are there so many people who love being confidently incorrect?
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u/HankHillbwhaa 2d ago
Top Fortnite streamer during the good ol days to a streamer that no one really talks about. What is confidently incorrect? Do you think he doesn’t wish he was still pulling those numbers from the tsm days? Because he’d definitely still be active if he could have kept up.
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u/Rude-Violinist-2119 2d ago
Ron was one of those people that was a Fortnite streamer that fell off. He just recovered and blew up again unlike Myth
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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ 2d ago
you are confused. i'm replying to the person who said
"The difference is Myth is still enjoying life and seems like a good guy. When this guy starts losing viewers its going to be sad to watch."
the part about him saying "when this guy starts losing viewers its going to be sad to watch" clearly means they have no clue about stableronaldo's history. he fell off hard once and came back already.
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u/Born_Cobbler_9383 2d ago
If falling off is being rich and hanging with his friends all the time then I wanna fall off like that😭.
The older streamers were never gonna compete with the newer streamers anyways. Also Ron gets pressed so much about it when everyone knows the top streamers are botted, he takes it personal or something.
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u/PapaMoist0000 2d ago
Myth the last guy to talk
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u/MaximumIce5632 2d ago
wdym, I highly doubt he viewbots considering he only has like 20 viewers now 😂
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