I saw joji in concert and no one knew who he was. They would ask who he was, who was i going to see? I told the filthy frank and they knew. It was weird. Especially because I thought filthy frank was lame.
The Haircake video was probably the final straw for him because Filthy Frank was always meant to be a one off thing but he kept going because it put him on the map and helped him get money for his personal projects. But that video...even Filthy Frank couldnt take it anymore lmao.
I heard of that as well. But he also stated Filthy Frank was never meant to be a huge thing and only was supposed to be a one off video. He continued it because of how famous he was getting off it (Justifiably he was extremely entertaining).
Not to mention, everyone here who has ever played an online game has heard (and possibly said) many worse things. Speed just happened to be doing it on cam. And like most of us (I'd hope), he grew out of it.
Yea, for shit teenagers say, that is extremely mild. People just LOVE to hate on LSF. Most of the people here are hate watchers. They're mad that someone else is living their dream and will cheer for their downfall.
And i'm happy from him being able to escape from that mindset because he does seem to be a good dude. Unlike Logan Paul that proves times and times again that he is a Fing idiot.
Lol what? I don't hold it against him at all, but is that actually extremely mild? Could you give an example of what teenagers commonly say that is much worse than that?
Yeah that’s a great point. WWE was smart to see the vision and bring him on. So many new eyeballs, and Speed has the athleticism to make these matches entertaining.
Honestly they needed it. There's just not the same amount of kids growing up watching wrestling every night or whatever. For sure they still have an audience, but the majority of what would've been their audience has been taken over by stuff like gaming/streaming. Having people from the gaming/streaming world come over to WWE will keep them alive.,
Wrestlers are well known to be in constant pain. I've heard that to be a wrestler is to live a life of pain. You can't abuse your body like that and not hurt.
What they do is really impressive. It's why I always defend wrestling even though people say its fake or whatever. We know. But this kind of stuff is rough on the body, it's difficult to do these kind of stunts and have showmanship at the same time. It's an art form of its own.
Technically it was in the gym days before a match, but he decided to wrestle the hardcore cage match anyway.
If you want an example of somebody tearing stuff in a match and continuing to wrestle and finish the match... look no further than HHH. He did this no less than 3 times. HHH tore his quad and proceeded to finish the match which involved the torn muscle being forcibly stretched. He tore his other quad several years later and proceeded to finish that match too. Then finally he tore his pec in a terrible Saudi Arabia match and finished that match too.
CM Punk tore his triceps and finished the Royal Rumble. John Cena tore his pec and finished the match. John Cena also delayed surgery on his torn triceps for weeks to wrestle the Summerslam main event in 2013.
Say what you want about Triple H, and there is plenty to criticize him on over the years, but his toughness regarding things like this is second to none.
Idk if you have heard of the new guy they signed to WWE, Danhausen, but he's just wrestled his first match with them after being a bit only guy for a while because of a pec injury. They're no joke.
The results of the fights are made up, and they are surely not punching with bone breaking force, but to have someone smack you with a steel chair and be dropped from a ladder hurts
Have a family member who was a household name in the 90s- early 2000s. Nothing in wrestling really feels "good" but if done right most things shouldn't "hurt" in the moment unless somebody screws up. By the time these guys are in front of an event like this their bodies are incredibly conditioned. Getting there is hell though and the days after are usually worse in terms of pain/soreness. Usually the wear and tear is what leads to a lot of injuries rather than one specific moment unless something is bothced.
That isnt typically applicable to high risk things like the speed clip though. They both felt that for sure.
I can appreciate a lot of what WWE has done to limit the risk especially out of the attitude era even if the product itself has suffered (just my opinion.).
The product hasn't suffered due to safety stuff they've done on the wrestlers' behalf, it's sucked because the people handling creative and the people above the people handling creative fucking suck at making a coherent and enjoyable show. Fuck the Fed forever.
Yeah, he spent half that match thinking he should call it off, while Foley (who was the one actually taking most of the punishment) kept telling him to keep going.
Don't forget the fact that AFTER he was tossed through the Spanish announcers' table, he fought off the medics and returned to the top of the cage. The plan was that 'Taker would do THREE Chokeslams, until the cage broke through enough that Mankind would dangle via his feet, then land upright and be facing 'Taker as he jumped down to continue the fight. Hell, 'Taker even stood on the support bar to try and keep the "roof" from imploding....but it still did.
Mankind himself said that if he'd landed "properly", he probably would've died; instead, he bounced off of the chair that fell through, and was knocked out (and lost several teeth in the process)...yet he still somehow fought thought it all (and shoo'ed off Terry Funk, a feat amongst its' own) and continued the battle against 'Taker.
So...Mankind shoulda died (from the initial toss), and the plan was that he'd feign that off and then eat 3 more Chokeslams, into another giant fall....but instead it went off accidentally, after the first, and he SHOULD have died...but didn't, and kept going well past the point of consciousness. And another HUGE hardcore wrestler, Terry Funk, was there to oversee it all....and tried to wave it all off, thinking Mankind HAD died during the stunt. Despite all that, he fought through and finished the match, much to the chagrin of everyone backstage.
It's "fake" in the sense it's scripted and sensationalized, but it's not fake in the sense that they're doing some dangerous shit and need to be on their game to not end up paralyzed.
It's like rodeo clowns. Except in reverse. It looks goofy as fuck, it's for entertainment value rather than the safety of the athletes doing the dangerous shit.
I’ve always found it so fascinating how integral the referees are to pro wrestling. Like obviously they’re not actually refereeing anything for real but they are an essential part of the process, both looking out for the wrestlers’ safety and relaying information between the wrestlers. The refs are super underrated, not appreciated enough
In my weird shift towards learning more about wrestling all my research points to: Yes, it does. The only reason these guys aren't all dead is that they do their absolute best to minimize impact across these moves but at the end of the day you're still getting hit and slamming heavy people into the ground.
The ring floor isn't soft, it's basically fuckin plywood that's a little springy.
Like, you can hit someone in the face with a folding chair, and you can do it in a way to minimize impact by holding the legs that lets the chair fold out on hit, but you're still being hit with a fuckin chair in the face.
And while they definitely fake a lot of punches and slaps, it's extremely common that in an effort to sell it they do accidentally hit each other and these people are strong as fuck.
And then there's this shit, idgaf what that table is made of if it's not a big fuckin pillow that hurts badly.
Speed may have practice with a crash pad but spots like this you do not really practice, you just do and hope nothing goes wrong. They are not gonna set up the table and practice this though beforehand as it just adds unneeded risk.
Hence why I said he may have practiced with a crash pad. But you are not gonna practice that on that exact table, from the ring with someone laying down. That is now how wrestling works at all.
Ahhh nvm I see what you mean. I thought you were saying like "omg it's crazy Logan Paul is doing a wrestling move" and was kinda confused if you've been under a rock but I realize now you meant like Logan trusting him to do it right (which I don't think he did lol) is crazy
Yeah thats worse... rookies have harder times mastering techniques so it is much more dangerous for both party. Especially if youre the one getting hit.
i used to dislike speed for being loud and anoying. but after some clips he is a decent human being, who cares about the places he visit(instead of making misery porn). and today i find out that he support palestine and also make paul logan suffer.
10/10 goat
Not a Speed fan, but a wrestling fan, and pretty impressed with the work Speed has put in to show up on these shows. IIRC, this is Speed's third Wrestlemania as a performer, but first time as a wrestler in a match.
The Table breaking is actually the main “Movie Trick” with spots like these.
It looks more dramatic while lessening the impact for both wrestlers.
Whenever you see sports like these and the table doesn’t break, then you know it really hurts.
Normal functional wood and fiberglass table thats used during the show, just the joints holding it together are made to separate when impacted which is why it falls apart the way it does.
There's tablets, drinks, equipment, etc that's all held on the table, commentators lean in it. It's the sudden force that makes the joints let go
Hard to get over organically when the parent company is more interested in bringing in celebrities than promoting the wrestlers actually working for the company.
i get that this is scripted and its choreographed to look worse than it actually is but I just don't see a world in which this just doesn't hurt like a motherfucker for both of them (moreso logan )
The majority of moves hurt at least one party, if not both. Splash moves like this are known to be brutal, especially so since there's not a wide flat surface like the ring. No one who has seena chokeslam could think its all fake.
logan probably felt very little pain as speed doesn't even really touch him when he landed. speed, on the other hand, probably felt some pain on that landing.
Most things in wrestling hurt. They do a lot to avoid injury, but doesn't mean the stuff doesn't hurt like crazy. No way to jump off something 10 feet up and land on top of another human or to hit someone with a metal chair across the back and have it not hurt.
Honestly it's not just for jocks. There's a huge contingent of nerds too. I took my kids to a show and honestly it was probably the most diverse crowd of people at any large event I've ever attended.
It's a Broadway level soap opera with gratuitous violence.
There is a reason that the best of them eventually move into acting. They have some level of acting skills, and some level of athletic ability. Translates well to action movies.
WWE is equally massive outside of America, they do tour Europe for instance and sell out. Helps that those places don't get shows as much, but I imagine they would sell out most large hubs around the globe.
Refs have also been known to make an X with their arms when there is someone badly injured. But this is fairly well known nowadays and is occasionally faked for dramatic effect.
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