r/LivestreamFail • u/lukigeri • Feb 02 '26
KSI’s whole mood changed and almost got out of the car after JasonTheWeen called himself the WORST term in UK slang possible
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u/Drakon_Lex Feb 02 '26
People in the comments being shocked in finding out that British people call each other pedo as a general insult and no, they didn't mean idiot is really fucking funny.
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u/UpsetKoalaBear Feb 03 '26
Had to once explain to someone on this site that “geez” in the UK refers to a person and uses a hard “g”
Apparently they spell “jeez” as “geez”
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u/Here4Headshots Feb 02 '26
Welcome to the big world, baby meme. I have a feeling you're going to do great things little one 🥰
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u/Biggman23 Feb 02 '26
This picture is him trying to connect two braincells together and its just not havin it.
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u/kkkhhjdyhrthhhjft Feb 02 '26
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u/Siicktiits Feb 02 '26
"ahhh man i'm so dumb im such a pedophile!"
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u/HigherandHigherDown Feb 02 '26
It does track that an idiot wouldn't know the proper term for an idiot.
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u/iama_bad_person Feb 02 '26
I thought it meant idiot for a very long time, I think until last year, but I'm not from the UK.
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u/blanx94 Feb 02 '26
From US myself, I wonder if we associate it with “dunce.” Cause I thought the same thing.
Could also be that Brits use it in arguments more regularly? Like if I’m in a fight, I’m calling the person a fucking idiot, not a pedo
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u/Gilthwixt Feb 02 '26
Based on some of the posts I've seen by Brits, I really think they do.
Edit: and further down the thread we have Australians saying they use it differently, so that's probably the actual cause.
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u/neonclawedgamblor Feb 03 '26
Aussie here. We also say 'nong' and I've heard 'ponce' so maybe they've been combined over time into a different meaning for that word than in the UK.
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u/Blieven Feb 02 '26
I'm literally finding out from this video that it's not just a synonym for idiot.
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u/WalrusInMySheets Feb 02 '26
I had a very similar interaction to this video with a UK friend
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u/Interesting_Gur2902 Feb 03 '26
Did they stay friends with you after?
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u/WalrusInMySheets Feb 03 '26
Yeah lol they were like bro it means pedo and I was like holy shit I thought it meant idiot
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u/EumelaninKnight Feb 02 '26
Same. I don't know where or when last year, but I was very surprised to learned it was NOT just another word for idiot.
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u/urzayci Feb 02 '26
To be fair brits do throw it around a lot. At first I thought it meant idiot as well.
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u/TheRogueTemplar Feb 03 '26
The first time I heard it, I thought it meant dunce.
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u/HotPie1666 Feb 02 '26
I think he was confusing nonce with dunce
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u/hotsexychungus Feb 02 '26
I always thought nonce just meant "idiot" too. Didn't realize it meant pedo or sex criminal.
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u/EarlofHell Feb 02 '26
If you were Australian you would be correct.
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u/CitizenHuman Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
So it means completely different things in different parts of the English speaking world? That's nonce sense.
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u/OfficialUberZ Feb 02 '26
I’m Australian and a bit confused because I have never once heard any Australian use nonce to mean stupid and nonce in general isn’t that common of a word here.
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u/EarlofHell Feb 02 '26
It probably depends where you are in Oz tbh because I’ve had other Aussies say they do use it to mean idiot.
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u/Saw_Boss Feb 02 '26
http://www.51allout.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Nonce-sense.jpg
Genetically, pedophiles have more genes in common with crabs than you and me. Now that is scientific fact. There's no real evidence to prove it, but it is scientific fact.
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u/-PhillySaxon- Feb 03 '26
To you, this may look like an ordinary picture of a field. But in the background is a 4-year-old girl, and if you try to show this picture to a paedophile, they will immediately attack it.
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u/andobrah Feb 02 '26
I'm Aussie and thought I was going crazy when I opened this thread hahaha
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u/Objective_Resist_735 Feb 02 '26
Is that where I heard it? Crocodile dundee or something?
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u/EarlofHell Feb 02 '26
Yes but in that context Dundee would have meant an idiot and not a sex offender.
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u/Perisharino Feb 02 '26
Oh so it's a br*tish thing
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u/EarlofHell Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
In the UK a paedophile (pee-do-file) is called a nonce. No-one knows where the term comes from originally except that it is used in the prison system for a sex offender. Some say it stand for non-conformist or not of natural civil etiquette. Some suggest it is a derivative of a ‘70s term ‘nance’, short for ‘nancyboy’ but no-one is entirely sure.
A nonce in Australian slang is an idiot, probably a misinterpretation of the British term. A sex offender in Australian slang is called a rock spider.
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u/maybeitsundead Feb 02 '26
Hm, a rock spider? I'd never have guessed that one
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u/Ashtray_Floors Feb 02 '26
Yes. Because they...like to get into little cracks or holes...
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u/Oretell Feb 02 '26
I'm Australian, nonce is definitely used as meaning idiot here
But I've never once heard the term rock spider before
People generally just call a pedo a pedo where I'm from
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u/Dosa-dosa Feb 02 '26
Most of the replies to you are misinformed.
Not on normal courtyard exercise is a backronym - folk etymology which sounds cool but was created to fit the word, not the other way around.
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u/Illustrious_Big_7980 Feb 02 '26
To be fair it literally means paedo but it is often used in slang for generally "bad".
Someone calls you a twat, you call them a nonce. Someone steals your bike? Fking nonce's.
Your friend buys cream soda? Nonce
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u/under_ice Feb 02 '26
I did too.....has it changed recently?
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u/AngryArmour Feb 02 '26
Are you from the UK? I'm not, but I am European and I remember reading Jimmy Savile was revealed as a "nonce" back in 2012.
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u/MonstrousGiggling Feb 02 '26
Ive been learning so much about this dude ever since 28 Years Later lmao I wish I had never known about him
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u/cherrioes Feb 02 '26
Maybe you got hit by the mandella effect? Nonce has always meant pedo in the UK.
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u/Enconhun Feb 02 '26
I'm feeling like gaslit by people. I've NEVER heard 'nonce' being referred to pedos. It always meant 'idiot', no matter who I talked to.
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u/FogoCanard Feb 02 '26
As an american, I'm on the other end. I've only heard the word in reference to pedos or pedo activity. This word isn't even rare for UK people. They say and use it all the time online
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u/tehcraz Feb 02 '26
American chiming in, only ever heard of it used as UK. Slang for calling someone a pedo.
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u/Deiselpowered77 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
Nah, Kiwi chiming in here. Even here we know that word is implying nonsery.
Now someone could be a bit of a silly twit, and you call them a nonse, or a nonser, in a playful less-than serious manner,
possibly rooted in the etymology of nonsense (I ain't looking that up),
but when more serious, calling someone a nonse DOES imply you 'is an up hill gardner. You is playin' for de other team. You is de only adult in da kiddy pool, yous a shifta, a ducky. You open de crisps at de wrong end. Yous a batty boy. YOUS A BATTY BOY AY NOW BRUVV"18
u/3506 Feb 02 '26
Wait, I'm even more confused. I always thought that playing for the other team/batty boy means gay man? But you're saying it means pedo?
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u/CandidDust4504 Feb 02 '26
Yeh you're right. Dunno why they were included in there. Nonce = pedo. Batty/other team = gay.
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u/evenbeats Feb 02 '26
Etymology is word origins, entomology is about insects lol
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u/krill_ep Feb 02 '26
I've also only known "nonce" to be something you call an idiot, but I am not from the UK.. even though Googling it, it does say it's commonly used as a way to call someone an idiot
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u/Substantial-Flow9244 Feb 02 '26
This is a very American mistake to make, I've definitely thought the same
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u/AdNo2342 Feb 02 '26
I'm an American with strong British heritage....I had 0 idea it meant pedophile lmao my uncle would say that shit all the time
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u/HummaKavula95 Feb 02 '26
As an American, I always assumed nonce meant idiot as well….
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u/FabulousGap9150 Feb 02 '26
I've made the same mistake 😭 I thought it was a synonym for an idiot or a dunce
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u/chironomidae Feb 02 '26
I could've sworn I've heard people on British panel shows calling each other nonces in a playful manner, but I wonder if I only heard them say it about people they don't like who weren't present, like politicians. Fortunately I didn't have to learn the hard way, but I almost did 😅
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u/Imkindofslow Feb 02 '26
I know we aren't crazy for thinking this.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nonce
I checked this book and it has idiot as a definition
T. Dalzell and T. Victor (eds.), The New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English: J-Z, Taylor & Francis (2006), p. 1381.
This cites Princeton man, this one can't be on us
https://wordnik.com/words/nonce
from WordNet 3.0 Copyright 2006 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.
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u/MulanMcNugget Feb 02 '26
This is like how soccer came into being and subsequently out of fashion in the UK originally it came from rich oxford (where English dictionary is formalised) kids who used to call rugby football/ rugby football/ruggers who wanted to differentiate it for what poors called football and was very popular. Still the vast majority of the country called it football.
This is the opposite nonce did mean idiot to upper class people but the working class co-opted it to mean gay and eventually to pdf
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u/thewhombler Feb 02 '26
got it confused with dunce
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u/Finityx_ Feb 02 '26
Man yall must really love clip farming. Cause that’s all this dude does.
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u/DarkIcedWolf Feb 02 '26
That’s everything these days, can’t go into ANYTHING without some sort of ragebait/click/clip farming. Shit makes people dumber and makes them radicalized depending on the day an algorithm felt like giving you it and it keeps feeding you it.
Hell I’m to blame to because I haven’t even join LSF, Reddit just recommends it because I’ve seen a few clips lmao.
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u/Imperium42069 Feb 02 '26
Yeah he totally called himself a pedophile 😂😂😂😂😂 cant be that he was just confused 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/Leading_Budget_2764 Feb 02 '26
Im not from the UK I always thought it meant idiot too until this clip tbh
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u/Future_Goose_7010 Feb 02 '26
same here, my uk gaming friends all say it to each other in an "idiot" way so i thought it meant that.
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u/Darrelc Feb 02 '26
Nah they def mean it in a nonce way - weird, suspicious behaviour that iplies moral indecency.
"You're putting ketchup on a sandwich? Fuckin nonce"
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u/AznKian Feb 02 '26
TiL it doesn't mean idiot. Figured that's what it meant through context clues.
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u/dickermuffer Feb 02 '26
Same, I’m American but grew up with a good amount of media from the UK. The show Skins, I was really into UK dubstep and DnB back when that was popular.
Always heard that term used, and I always assumed it meant “idiot”
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u/MGM-Wonder Feb 02 '26
Dunno how its possible to watch UK skins and not figure out what nonce means
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u/FlatbreadPaladin Feb 02 '26
Probably because it's seldom, if ever, used in a manner befitting the severity of its true meaning lmfao
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u/eatmygerms Feb 02 '26
Totally unrelated, that is such a well crafted sentence.
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u/dickermuffer Feb 02 '26
I was a 15 year old to be fair or some teen age. Maybe my mind didn’t really understand it at that point.
Also, I’ve heard many UK people use the term “pedo” directly. So “nonce” sounds like “dunce” or just a general word for a bad person. While I would assume they would just use “pedo” if they meant that.
But now I know.
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u/Odd-Guess1213 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
Think it’s origin was a designation for paedophiles in prison ‘not of normal criminal element’
Might be bullshit but who knows, either way means paedo lol
Edit; you can stop telling me the acronym you’ve heard is ‘Not on Normal Courtyard excercise’, turns out whatever you’ve heard it was an acronym for is basically a myth lmao
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It’s amazing that people could just make up an entire acronym and be so wrong
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u/DannyLJay Feb 02 '26
They’re called backronyms and they’re insufferable. None of these are correct, stupid mfs believe anything they see.
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u/Clueless_Otter Feb 02 '26
I can't stand when someone tries to say "meta" means "most effective tactics available" instead of being short for metagame.
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u/Odd-Guess1213 Feb 02 '26
Tbh after doing a few mins of googling it appears they’re all wrong, Not Of Normal Criminal Element, Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise, Not Of Normal Criminal Enterprise, Not Of Normal Criminal Ethic etc etc
These are essentially etymological myths/backronyms and there’s no evidence that the word is an acronym for any of these things or first used because of it
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u/Professional-Hold938 Feb 02 '26
I've been listening to Finn vs history and as an Australian I've heard the word nonce but it wasn't till they started talking about Jimmy Savile that I realised what it actually meant. It is an oddly fun word to say for such a gross thing
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u/Valjz Feb 02 '26
the courtyard exercise acronym comes from a tv show about a womens prison from early 2000s called Bad Girls and it's why people parrot it a lot
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u/OhItsKillua Feb 02 '26
Yeah it sounded like idiot in the way I've heard Brits use it in videos arguing or whatever. The reactions to getting called a nonce are far tamer than I'd expect.
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u/enfrozt Feb 02 '26
Until this clip I just assumed it meant "idiot".
I can't keep up with whimsical british/aussie slang terms.
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u/dazedan_confused Feb 02 '26
In case you're wondering (or aren't British)
Someone you don't know/like calls you a nonce: It's an insult
Someone you're friends with calls you a nonce: It's a term of affection
You call yourself a nonce: It's a confession.
You're the favourite child of the late Queen: It's probably true.
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u/Shantotto11 Feb 02 '26
So UK nationals have just been casually calling people they don’t like pedos for the last 2 decades?
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u/geniusgravity Feb 02 '26
It's a go to insult. If you arent finishing your pint when its time for the next round? Nonce. If you aren't willing to walk 2 miles to the next pub? Fucking nonce. Disagree with the rest of the group over an offside decision? Check his hard drive.
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u/MC897 Feb 02 '26
The most offensive words can just be general chit chat to carry a convo along or for endearment, friendliness etc. It's just a way to chin wag.
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u/ricin2001 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
lol. Given how America centric this sub (and entire website) is, it’s quite nice having something that just makes the people in the UK laugh
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u/Ballsnutseven Feb 02 '26
As an American, the British calling each other pedophiles casually is the funniest thing ever it’s truly great banter
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u/exodusuno Feb 02 '26
Lmao the instant facial change was so funny, someone please make this into a reaction meme
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u/skill1358 Feb 02 '26
Reading these comments got me wondering how many Americans have been calling themselves and others a pedo
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u/HelloRMSA Feb 02 '26
I swear I've heard it used in media when referring to someone as an idiot. And no i didn't confuse it dunce.
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u/Bozzz1 Feb 02 '26
I'm starting to think the Brits are just casually calling people pedophiles in a way Americans would interpret as "idiot". Like if someone cuts you off in traffic, Americans would be like "what a moron", but the brits are like "what a pedophile" lmao
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u/ugonna100 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
Me too. I've seen/heard people use it in way more casual insult scenarios. I'm surprised to hear this whole time it was so serious.
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u/danny321eu98 Feb 02 '26
People use whatever insult here doesn't matter if it's true or not. Nonce means peado but if I'm calling you a nonce it doesn't always mean you are one, it's just insulting
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u/bigitem1703 Feb 02 '26
ive always thought it meant "idiot" or "this guy doesnt make any sense" and i heard it years ago
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u/Rich-Ideal-866 Feb 02 '26
nah it always means pedo, someone will just say it if they don't like a person but the meaning never changed
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u/monsterbot314 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
I won’t speak for the whole U.S. but on the east coast it means idiot or dummy. Some U.S t.v. Show in the 70s or 80s must not have done their homework on British slang I guess.
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u/TsarOfReddit Feb 02 '26
Yeah I’m in the U.S. and I’ve always heard that word used in context of idiot/dummy
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u/ifoundacookie Feb 02 '26
Yeah, there must have been lol. I've gone 27 years thinking it just meant idiot lmao. I've heard it used in such casual context before that would NEVER warrant calling someone a pedophile so im sure ive just heard it used incorrectly, especially being from Texas. We're not known for being great at word.
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u/Darrelc Feb 02 '26
You can make the implication jokingly. One of my mates gets called a nonce on the regular for putting ketchup on a sandwich lol
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u/Shroomhammerr Feb 02 '26
The words not used to call someone an idiot but you can use it as an general insult against someone you don't like. If anything it's used someone who is weird, basically as a way of saying you weird like pedo.
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u/DiaperFluid Feb 02 '26
I love the excuse "i have a whole girl" because it bears ZERO weight lmao. Thats like saying "i didnt walk to the store, I have a car!".
A certain financier had a whole girl as well...
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u/Expert-Excuse8130 Feb 02 '26
"i have a whole girl like come over"
yeah... what age tho
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u/GreyJamboree Feb 02 '26
Note to Americans: "Spaz" does not mean the same thing in US and UK
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u/Max-Volume Feb 02 '26
Doesn't the word in the US still come from the word "spastic"? I'm Dutch myself, but it always seemed very questionable to me how Americans use that word.
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u/RaidenIXI Feb 02 '26
it does. no idea what that guy is going on about. i had to look up what the UK meaning is... and it's the same as american, except americans dont view it as a slur. same meaning, less severity
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u/Outside_Set9788 Feb 02 '26
Hey I learned something today. Genuinely didn't know nonce meant pedo. Good thing I've never used that word before
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u/Euphoric_Reading_401 Feb 02 '26
Am I tripping ? I swear to God I've heard "nonce" used as a generic insult like "idiot" many, many times in media with none of this pedo undertone ? Is it just a UK thing ?
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u/DefNotAnAlter Feb 02 '26
Its definitely used as a harder insult here, definitely not generic and against people you dislike. Sometimes it's also used with the pedo undertones
Of course, like any good insult, sometimes it becomes common between friends
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u/Wald0st Feb 02 '26
It always means pedo
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u/GiantKrakenTentacle Feb 02 '26
So it's just normal to call people pedophiles as an insult? It's bizarre because every context I've heard "nonce" be used is as a (fairly casual) insult where it could be interchanged with "idiot" or "dumbass."
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u/dksdragon43 Feb 02 '26
Yeah I gotta say this one is on the brits for using such a harsh word so casually. Who the fuck casually calls his mate a pedo and they all laugh?? I also assumed it was tame like idiot.
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u/SAB5106 Feb 02 '26
Well the funny part of calling your friend a nonce is that he obviously isn't, and it riles him up. So that's why.
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u/jreed12 Feb 02 '26
Sort of like how yanks will casually accuse other people of having sex with their own mother with no evidence?
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u/Safe-Avocado4864 Feb 02 '26
It always means peado but it gets shouted at people who are not peados in anger. Like how someone on Xbox might call you a "bundle of kindling" if you're winning too much, even if they didn't think you were really homosexual. It is on a much, much higher level than "idiot" though, and while someone might say "I'm such an idiot" they will never say "I'm such a nonce" if they did something dumb.
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u/zanembg Feb 02 '26
I swear to fucking god I hear British people call each other that in the context of them being called an idiot.
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u/rtrs_bastiat Feb 02 '26
Calling a friend a nonce might mean they're an idiot, like any insult might. Calling someone you don't know well or at all a nonce always means they're a child abuser. Calling yourself a nonce definitely implies the latter.
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u/Agehowler Feb 02 '26
I assume its like motherfucker, the insult is more normalized than the literal sense
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u/BloodyTalkative Feb 02 '26
It's just a generic insult sometimes, sometimes used in the correct context.
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u/swat1611 Feb 02 '26
Nonce always meant pedo. It also makes sense why he would make that mistake, the brits throw that around way too often for a very serious allegation. I'd say this misinterpretation is just because of how casually it is used.
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u/Raikohx Feb 02 '26
This is fucking hilarious! Glad actual fails are back on LSF again
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u/MinimalPixelsVII Feb 02 '26
This would never make it to LSF nor even be posted if Destiny/Asmon/Daily Hasan bad clips was still allowed.
Fcking hilarious!
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u/Turbulent_Insect_431 Feb 02 '26
I thought nonce was short for nonsense (someone speaking nonsense) in a way up until 2020, crazy how no one ever pulled me when I called someone it
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u/joshthor Feb 02 '26
Well, I haven't been using that word to describe anyone fortunately, but I am very surprised Nonce means pedophile. AND that its not a new Gen Z flip on the word. Apparently its been that way for a while.
I'm a software engineer, I just know it as a coding term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_nonce
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u/BestNBAfanever Feb 02 '26
this remind me of how i thought “zooted” just meant tired for like a year before my gen z nephews finally taught me better
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u/frolix42 Feb 02 '26
I didn't think "nonce" was that bad, but I didn't know it meant pedo. People use it freely online.
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u/TheRealStevo2 Feb 02 '26
I’ve definitely heard British people call each other nonce before and everyone was chill about it. Pretty sure I’ve seen it in sidemen videos.
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u/rhyswtf Feb 02 '26
Depending on context, being called an insulting term in Britain can either be a sign of good affection or be an indicator that you're a right wrong-un.
Like, if I call my mate Stav from down the pub a nonce, that's fine. He's a good lad like and everyone knows what he's like. If I call a random twat I don't know a nonce though either they or me is about to get their head kicked in.
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u/NoticingThing Feb 02 '26
British banter, it's common to insult your friends even using the worst terminology possible as a joke. Nobody is offended as everyone knows that nobody actually means anything by it, the insult isn't meant to be taken seriously.
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u/MuddaArmon Feb 02 '26
yeah but that’s where the confusion is coming from with americans and such. because if it’s never explained it does just sound like a common insult
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u/Ok_Part4975 Feb 02 '26
lol I am pretty sure I heard ksi and sidemen use that term pretty regularly
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u/MassiveMoron69 Feb 02 '26
Ok as a brit plenty of people here use the most vile words possible to wind up their friends and insult them and it all gets laughed off, but if you called the wrong person/a stranger a nonce they might decide you need a few extra dents in your skull.
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u/Arcturus1800 Feb 02 '26
I used to do this until my UK friends let me know what the word actually meant. Before that, I used to just use the word nonce as a playful jab because, to me, it sounded like a silly word that probably didn't have any real meaning.
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u/Ghjjiyeks Feb 02 '26
Sounds about right that an idiot wouldn’t know the UK slang for ‘idiot’.
Also, it is a bit of news to me that ‘Nonce’ in UK is to distinguish a pedo or sex criminal, but in Australia, it is typically used to describe an idiot or dumbass, so that’s new.
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