r/HonkaiAgendaRail 1h ago

Lobotomy When did hsr player lobotomies themselves into thinking hsr is somehow different/ better than other hoyo games ?

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heck hsr is probably the only funding games like zzz 😭🙏

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u/ineha_ 1h ago

You have to be fucking delusional to believe HSR and zzz characters are sexualised to the same level

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

Yeah but it isn’t anything to brag about, in the end they both are a product of hoyo and you if you are gonna make a moral argument you can’t ignore one or the other 

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u/Myf8darel 1h ago

OP is assuming that the poster of the tweet is a male gooner. This could be a woman who likes Robin because she’s cute and doesn’t want to see her sexualized like other ZZZ characters

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

Same shit 

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u/Critical_Office9422 1h ago

Tbf the concern for how ZZZ treat their fem chars is quite valid. It doesn't mean HSR does it way better, just a concern.

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

No tf it isn’t, it’s literally the same company they just target different audiences with different games

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u/speganomad 1h ago

You don’t think the difference in audiences will make the devs treat them differently?

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u/Supkil 1h ago

When one of your main target audiences are pdf's, it kinda becomes a concern....

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

That’s what I’m saying. If that is one of your concerns then you shouldn’t be playing any hoyo games And you have a hi3 pfp which literally the same, and hsr is literally the same thing they literally had ads about a kids feets

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u/Supkil 1h ago

Hi3 has moved on from catering to PDF for a solid time, ZZZ is still doing it in the big 2026. Theres a big difference 😭

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u/Relevant-Rub2816 Mythus's doormat and louis fleming's wife 10m ago

HI3 Stopped doing it 6 years ago but still has peak fan service without Sexualising kids. (Flamescion, senti, aponia, Adult griseo, etc, are peak)

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

Doesn’t change anything, they too did it so stop playing them lol

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u/Supkil 59m ago

We're talking about audiences, not morality. Ofcourse it changes everything

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u/StretchNo7315 52m ago

And what about coralie ? 

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u/Supkil 40m ago

"Main target audiences'' Coralie is one character, ZZZ has been dropping Sunna skin, child Sunbringer, Norm in a FEW months because PDF are THEIR main target. Hi3 has only dropped Dragon Carole and Child Dudu in TWO years.

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u/StretchNo7315 38m ago

Yeah and both are bad and you shouldn’t support either, what is so hard to understand about that ? 

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u/yuxuan-lover-1 20m ago

Both are hoyo btw

You still funding this

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u/StretchNo7315 57m ago

You are consuming products from the same producer who supplies these audience, so yes you are funding all the weird shit. What is so hard to understand? 

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u/Relevant-Rub2816 Mythus's doormat and louis fleming's wife 12m ago

It is though. A lot of HSR audience is also normal women, ZZZ's isn't. ZZZ have Sexualised kids, for goodness sake. Ofc I'll be concerned because this game is literally known for such things.

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u/StretchNo7315 7m ago

Yeah and that’s a hoyo thing they do that to kids, so if you are gonna have a moral stance on it you shouldn’t support hoyo in any shape or form look at what da wei himself said  https://x.com/xolapeii/status/1695202637686186258?s=46

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u/West-Jellyfish9860 1h ago

Mr president, another hsr hate post has hit the sub

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

Where ? This is about the dulul players 

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u/sofit_sofit 1h ago

Campaign "Saving zzz's revenue"

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

So was the fate collab to save hsr ? Since fate is more popular 

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u/speganomad 1h ago

Yes lol I don’t think anyone would argue it wasn’t an attempt to boost revenue but it also basically took place during the games peak basically right at the end of it.

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

And what makes you think zzz is in it’s downfall ?  From what i have seen it’s doing fine 

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u/Little_Number7047 34m ago

Its not, leave the big 3 aside,zzzs performance is still the worst among the small 3:eos field and and nte

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u/StretchNo7315 32m ago

Based on what? Sensor tower? 

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u/Wonderful_Fail5665 1h ago

hsr most sexualized fem char (dahlia) is like tame compared to the least sexualized zzz char lets be fr

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

But hsr too sexualised children, which is equally as weird, and they had an ad about her feet

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u/Tintinmdm 58m ago

That's character sold extremely poor and they haven't done so for a while

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u/StretchNo7315 56m ago

Says who ? A random number from a random website? 

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u/Tintinmdm 43m ago

Yunli did flop no matter how many sale pages you look at

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u/mynameiskittyoo 37m ago

I genuinely thought OP was talking about Clara for a good solid 5 minutes reading this because Yunli is so so so forgettable 😭

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u/StretchNo7315 40m ago

I don’t get it, so if someone sells shady shit you wouldn’t consider them a bad person if they didn’t sell enough of the thing ? 

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u/jhonnythejoker 48m ago

No one cares abt clara

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u/music_posting 1h ago

I mean... it's definitely better than the game that threw everything cool about it to make gooner shit

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

Are you serious rn? Zzz was always like that 

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u/Worried_Dark9858 1h ago

hoyo players always be fighting against each other for some reason

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

I don’t take part in such headaches, but it’s always funny how people take a moral stance when it comes to one game, but ignore the other when both are from the same hands 

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u/speganomad 1h ago

Because the world is not fucking black and white, some people can only accept so much fan service and child sexuality before it crosses a line and grosses them out. Hsr is simply on the other side of that line for them.

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

That’s the fucking point, it’s from the same producer, if you are supporting one product you are supporting the other. It’s as simple as that, but you are here talking about black and white when it’s literally the same shade 

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u/speganomad 1h ago

But it’s not and that’s what you are missing there’s DEGREES to this and zenless has crossed the line to the point it weirds out a lot of people.

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

You are funding it which the fucking point, if you think zzz is weird then you shouldn’t play any hoyo game since they all fund it 

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u/mynameiskittyoo 38m ago

Playing a free mobile game is not funding it lol? Unless you spend money — which seriously, the MAJORITY of normal, casual players (like people on reddit) do not. HSR is very generous so you usually don’t need to spend for characters and eidolons.

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u/StretchNo7315 33m ago

It does though, you fund it by talking about it, you fund it by creating a community around it, you fund it by making it more popular 

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u/mynameiskittyoo 30m ago

funds
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Funds refer to an available supply of money or liquid assets set aside for a specific purpose (e.g., an emergency fund), or to general pecuniary resources readily available for spending.
(To Fund)
As an action, "to fund" means to provide the financial resources necessary to support or pay for a project, organization, or event. For example, a venture capitalist might fund a startup, or a government might fund a new research program.

Me playing my game, and others and talking about it on reddit is not funding it. There are people that do fund it, they ALWAYS will.

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u/StretchNo7315 27m ago

Talking about something is the same as advertising it, which brings funding to it by attracting more players that may spend a lot of money on it 

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u/mynameiskittyoo 13m ago

Also I don’t really get your point? People spend money regardless, if they solely spend it on HSR good for them I guess? You have no insights into where HSR money is being spent. Your argument is a straw man.

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u/StretchNo7315 5m ago

Are you dim ? Hsr’s money is going to hoyo which makes these games. Or do you genuinely believe that hsr is a standalone project?. And my point is that f2p games rely on people playing the game and talking about it so it attracts players who have money to spend 

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u/Itchy-Entertainer-87 1h ago

Gonna be crazy to you but some people don’t only play hsr with one hand

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u/StretchNo7315 1h ago

Don’t think hsr players need hands to play 

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u/Umgak_shield_raki 1h ago

Do people play ZZZ only with one hand though? I can only applause if they do, the combat seems to require two hands or limbs at least to be played. HSR is much more comfortable in this.

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u/DoomyHowlinkun 1h ago

I just came from one of the ZZZ subreddits. Ain't no way you think hsr players are the only ones acting like this. Whole ZZZ post filled with comments about how much they hate hsr and how they dont want the collab because it will ruin their game. Get off your high horse.

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u/StretchNo7315 24m ago

I wasn’t in these subs and I’m not on any horse 

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u/ineha_ 1h ago

Gotcha, anything else?

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u/Tintinmdm 59m ago

OP is trying to say hsr players can't dislike how zzz treat their females

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u/StretchNo7315 50m ago

You can, but if you have such a moral stance then you shouldn’t be playing any hoyo game. My point is if you have a problem with how hoyo mangas one of their games you shouldn’t fund them through other games 

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u/Tintinmdm 46m ago

You still can, it's the internet after all and not all hsr players play ZZZ.

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u/StretchNo7315 44m ago

No you can’t, because it’s hoyo’s philosophy not just zzz 

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u/Tintinmdm 43m ago

Why should I listen to you lol

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u/StretchNo7315 41m ago

No, the playsation store and hoyo who keeps it alive 

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u/Tintinmdm 32m ago

It doesn't mean people aren't allowed to dislike things lol

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u/StretchNo7315 31m ago

I’m not saying you aren’t allowed to, I’m saying if you take a moral stance on a hoyo product you shouldn’t consume hoyo’s other products 

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u/Tintinmdm 14m ago

What moral stand here? Like I like Robin and I love her hsr design but I won't like how ZZZ inflates her tits and ass. What's wrong with liking a character for the body type they were originally made?

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u/StretchNo7315 4m ago

And that’s fine, but what I posted is a completely different thing. You don’t like it and didn’t see it as somehow immoral then the point isn’t about you 

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u/Time_Jackfruit_8793 53m ago

least obvious zzz fan

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u/StretchNo7315 52m ago

I played hsr more than zzz 

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u/diego_eats_rocks 56m ago

Maybe some of us don't wanna see Robin with balloon tits

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u/StretchNo7315 55m ago

Then don’t play it ? Lol what kind of argument is that 

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u/EagerMorRiss 49m ago

Same shit from the same butthole. Semi interactive nothingburgers, it's genuinely baffling how there isn't more hate

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u/StretchNo7315 46m ago

That’s what I’m saying in the end of they day it’s a hoyo product too

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u/Main-Shallot3703 48m ago

The zzz player is trying to justify his morality by grouping everything together without the nuance.

Dont you guys pride yourselves by playing the most gooner hoyo game. Eat that pride and dont include other games.

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u/StretchNo7315 45m ago

What? I don’t pride myself in a gacha game, and what I’m saying it’s a hoyo thing not zzz 

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u/Main-Shallot3703 40m ago

its definitely not a hoyo thing, would you say hoyo's petite planet be the same?

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u/MikuCat 36m ago

Guys just report the post and move on. OP has no intention to actually have a conversation with anyone

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u/StretchNo7315 34m ago

I’m literally talking with them lol

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u/MikuCat 30m ago

You’re shutting everyone down that has a different opinion than you. That’s not having a conversation. You’re gonna do the same thing to me now.

Have a good day and I’ll be blocking this post and account.

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u/Geg708 1h ago

"I'm afraid of Robin in ZZZ because I don't like how ZZZ treats women" bitch Robin wasn't even a real character in Penacony she was just Sunday's sister

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u/Low-Brilliant8699 1h ago

Gacha players are puritans for some reason

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u/EbbMiserable7557 nothing too sacred for slander 19m ago

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u/StretchNo7315 18m ago

Not with the brain rot i saw in they other comments, some people actually believe hoyo is some moral company and that zzz is the only one with weird shit like that 

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u/EbbMiserable7557 nothing too sacred for slander 14m ago

I just won't pass on zzz slanders. the kids in the house can be rowdy if they want but I still want to shit talk the weirdo neighbor 😀

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u/StretchNo7315 13m ago

“When a a ugly person calls you twin” ahh situation 

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u/EbbMiserable7557 nothing too sacred for slander 11m ago

Not how you use that phrase but since you already have it rough with zzz as your favorite I'll let it pass

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o6Zt2qh8vSNFH30SQ

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u/StretchNo7315 9m ago

It’s my least played game, I just dislike when people take a moral stand on something while being stupid 

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u/EbbMiserable7557 nothing too sacred for slander 4m ago

True to agenda then.

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u/ScoopedSand 1h ago

I think neither hsr or zzz are clear cut above each other. Here are some things I think each games does better at

Zzz better: models, events to do, en voice acting, story presentation (might be biased here but I like the comic format as well as the character 1 on 1 conversation format. At least it’s better than HSR’s stiff expressions and same 3 poses during story dialogue), gooning (downside for some, tbf the jiggle physics are a bit much)

HSR: more men (may be a downside depending on the person tho), better story (specifically much better villains who make the story more interesting), better music (debatable but I like hsr ost more)

I kinda don’t give a shit an either games’ gameplay, it’s just a vehicle for me. If I had to pick, I do prefer turn based a bit more.

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u/joshuaIpha 1h ago

"weird physics" people are genuinely just prudes imo, wait till you show them a milisecond of nikke's gameplay

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u/speganomad 1h ago

“No we aren’t gooner look at this even more gooner game!!!!” This cuts both ways it’s a sliding scale and hsr/genshin tends to be a lot of people line in the sand.

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u/Legit-orifice-20 1h ago

‘Killing a few guys isn’t that bad haven’t you seen a genocide occur before’ great argument buddy

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u/Nano8963 1h ago

TIL bouncy tits = genocide.

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u/speganomad 58m ago

If bikini/school skins=murder in the analogy then it kinda is ? Fucking unhinged analogy though.

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u/Legit-orifice-20 50m ago

Sometimes you have to make it extreme or no one gets the point. I literally play ZZZ I just think it’s intentionally daft to act like the characters aren’t jiggling their tits every second

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u/Light1628 1h ago

Mf's online are weird, they're all for dressing revealingly irl but when it comes to games they suddenly turn into conservatives complaining about revealing dressed female characters.

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u/speganomad 56m ago

Goomba fallacy aaah comment plus a real person is making real choices and not being created by a team to sell.

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u/Light1628 54m ago

So what if they're being made to sell? What's wrong with it? It's a gacha game, you buy characters you like if you don't like it you stop bitching about it and get some other character or play some other game.

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u/speganomad 51m ago

Because you can still love a game and hate aspects of it simultaneously? The world isn’t binary after all I dislike this collab immensely but I still love hsr especially after the recent update.

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u/Light1628 46m ago

I'm talking about zzz here not hsr. If you dislike zzz so much then stop complaining about it and look away, you're not even playing it. As for the hsr side of collab you can ignore that as well, it's probably going to be an event like fate and you can just skip it if you don't like it.

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u/speganomad 39m ago

It’s like a parade outside your house, you can try to ignore it but realistically you can’t entirely.

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u/Light1628 37m ago

My exact opinion when i'm scrolling through any social media and seeing zzz haters complaining.

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u/MarcosLTO ❤️ 1h ago

Oh god hsr i full of normies 😥

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u/speganomad 56m ago

Good the norm exists for a god damn reason.

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u/fishieranz 1h ago

robin in zenless is still better than her freaking summer SP

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u/speganomad 1h ago

We should not talk about that before or happens they can absolutely chop her to fucking bits.

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u/MarcosLTO ❤️ 1h ago

The garbage story is in HSR, just read amphoreous post 3.4, slop finalle...and dont act like hsr dont focus in its weird community, mydei and phainon interactions are clear exemples of that.

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u/ursamajora624 1h ago

Yeah that compared to Promeia dressing like a stripper for no reason, and Norma being a small adult in her 20s while looking like an 8 year old in stockings is totally the same. Also if Amphoreus sucks then the entire Waifai Peninsula sucks because Shunguang is Cyrene but even worse lol

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u/MarcosLTO ❤️ 59m ago

At least promeia design is more creative than hsr copy paste slop dresses with bare legs.

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u/Light1628 20m ago

Yeah and the promeia(acheron) in hsr is dressed like a nun lol. It's the same company that makes these games and y'all act like you have a moral high ground or something.