What Youtube channel did you love that is garbage now?

[u/lilb1190]

[u/tgr31]

Bon appetit after they all left

[u/FlyestFools → u/tgr31]

They really fumbled so hard! They had amazing series, with great engagement. It’s a damn shame that they didn’t recognize that the people made the content worthwhile, and not the other way around.

Especially once the whole Sohla debacle came to light, it’s tough seeing their old content pop up.

Claire from the Gourmet Makes series has her own channel now, and it’s great! Brad Leone also started one, but I don’t like it as much as the “It’s Alive” series he and Vinny had with BA

[u/ThePopeofHell → u/FlyestFools]

I think Brad’s charm in the bon appetite videos was that he was just winging it even though he clearly had a plan and then would just drag people into what ever he was doing. He’s really good at group work. His YouTube channel really is just too much of him by himself trying to stay on track. What was weird for me was him and Matty making a video together and seeing just how much more intense Brad is. Marty’s intensity seems like a put on and Brads is authentic and unpredictable. Them together was not as awesome as I expected it to be.

[u/SinistreCyborg]

Can’t help but notice that most of the channels at the top of this thread are the ones that have also been bought by private equity.

[u/HanzJWermhat → u/SinistreCyborg]

Hmmmm can’t be a pattern surely

[u/electricmama4life → u/SinistreCyborg]

Fuck private equity. Does nothing for most of us but make us less able to live a peaceful life.

[u/decibles]

Used to LOVE Donut. Was everything that a car dork could get into. Hi Low was a brilliant series. Even liked some of the newer folks after BigTime and Speeed split off- but they just absolutely lost the thread.

Hi Low got sold to Tubi. No new builds. More Temu listicles and other bullshit.

[u/thestupidestname → u/decibles]

I’m new to car YouTube but Zip Tie Tuning is a good one

[u/Magusultimisv02]

Roosterteeth

[u/Electric_Spark → u/Magusultimisv02]

You could literally not get any more peak than 2013 Roosterteeth. Extra Life in November that year was their apex moment.

It was slowly downhill after that, but Monty’s death and Ray’s departure from AH, which were basically back-to-back in early 2015, was when the cracks really became apparent.

[u/ficklefools → u/Electric_Spark]

The fact it managed to ride that wave for another 8 years is genuinely impressive. I tried to keep watching out of loyalty but over covid when the stuff about Ryan and Adam from Funhaus came out, shit reaaaally hit the fan and I dropped off.

In 2021-22 we’re getting something like 20k views on videos that must’ve cost a lot of money to make, it’s crazy to me how they didn’t see the writing on the wall and shut it down sooner.

[u/GameMask → u/ficklefools]

Well remember, WB was in charge by that point. They knew they were operating on borrowed time at the end. But what's crazy is that RT was a victim of very bad management. They had so much momentum even after Monty's death, but they kept making awful decisions. When they took Ray's original Twitch channel without telling him and told him he wasn't allowed to stream on his own, only to basically never do anything with lice streaming for the next 5 years, that should have been a huge wake up call for everyone.

They made a lot of questionable decisions, like their failed gaming division and spending millions on touring live, and all the stuff with GenLock, but I think one of the most overlooked mistakes was the Let's Play Family initiative they tried to push. Let's plays in general were slowly being eaten by streaming, but Let's Play the brand was still very popular. And what did they do? They bought a bunch of smaller creators and teams to try to expand into this big conglomerate of channels. It was such a massive failure on their part. It was dead within a year yet they still had all those teams on the payroll. This is not to slag off any of the talent, but the audience just wasn't there for it.

I think it's their attempt at expansion that killed them. Everything became so bloated and rotten. There's an old interview with I believe Gus and Bernie where they talk about the Fullscreen buy-out not long after it happened, and they spoke about needing to compete with companies like Netflix who had so much more money to compete in the online space. There's been a lot of speculation since that they actually weren't doing well financially at that point and that was why they needed the buy-out, but either way it that mentality which I think ruined them.

[u/overlord2767 → u/Electric_Spark]

I never understood the "AH went downhill after Ray left" thing. Because by no metric was that the case. 15 of the 16 Lets Play Lives, Off Topic, Between the games, Shenanigans, Gmod, and many of the highest viewed videos came after Ray left. AH didn't truly go downhill until the Ryan crimes and all the new faces post covid.

[u/CantCatchMeSpez → u/overlord2767]

Yeah, Ray's departure is way over-blown. RT collapsed because times changes and RT was too bloated to change with it (and because of the scandals). That's kinda it. They were doing just fine years after Ray left.

[u/FireVanGorder → u/Magusultimisv02]

They had so many solid spinoff channels too. Rip Funhaus. Fuck Adam Kovic

[u/Zobbster → u/FireVanGorder]

I miss future Funhaus.

[u/JoaquinSpawn → u/Magusultimisv02]

I have the first 10 seasons of RvB on box set, its one of my most treasured possessions.

I miss the old RoosterTeeth

[u/mythrilcrafter → u/Magusultimisv02]

The Rooster Teeth story is one of many where very few members of the leadership ever really matured into ability to be responsible the size of company that RT became (and those who did were not in a role where it had enough influence to make a difference), which led to tons of "college aged frat culture" stuff going on that should never be allowed in a proper company.

It's the same thing that ultimately killed groups like The Creatures and other "just a bunch of dudes making goofy videos in 2006" groups.

[u/OtherwiseArachnid5 → u/Magusultimisv02]

Hard recommend Regulation Podcast, stars a lot of ex-Rooster Teeth alumni (Geoff/Gavin) and honestly make some of the best internet content

[u/Jaijoles → u/OtherwiseArachnid5]

Arachnid out here doing more regulation promo work than Gavin.

[u/coffeeloveeveryday]

Grav3yardgirl. At some point she started to cather to a younger audience, and it devolved to her straight up yelling while promoting Amazon garbage.

[u/NoFunction_ → u/coffeeloveeveryday]

It goes way deeper than that. For some reason, she wanted her audience to think she was "trailer trash" (her words) and was super afraid of people finding out she was actually very wealthy. She had a "poor car" (Scion XB) that she would vlog in, but in reality, her daily drivers were a convertible Porsche Boxster 981 and a Tesla Model X. She also always filmed strategically so that her audience didn't know she lived in a mansion in Pearland, TX.

The mask slipped when she made a video ranting about Starbucks refills and loyalty rewards. People saw her entitlement and slowly stopped watching.

[u/TallulahBob → u/NoFunction_]

I stopped watching after she moved into the big house. I don’t have a problem with her being wealthy, but her content went from fun, quirky makeup and trying out all the stupid little things I want but didn’t have money to spend on, to a standard shill.

[u/JumpingJonquils → u/NoFunction_]

The weird choice to film in her closet always bugged me, but the Starbucks situation sent me running

[u/Lower_Description398 → u/JumpingJonquils]

The closest thing didn't strike me as too weird since her closet is the size of my living room

[u/ashikat413 → u/coffeeloveeveryday]

I was obsessed with her "does this THING really WORK?" series as a teen. She was so whimsical and brought a lot of happy vibes in a time that i really needed it. Eventually i grew to dislike loud videos with lots of yelling though

[u/_IntoTheVoid → u/coffeeloveeveryday]

Came here to write Grav3yardgirl. I absolutely loved her ghost hunting videos back in the day and the focus on the macabre. Then it all went to shit when her channel became her job; do you remember the Shane Dawson intervention train wreck? 😭

[u/Regnes]

Daily Dose of Internet used to be 3-5 minutes of really cool and interesting videos from around the web. Now it's 15 minutes comprised mostly of staged TikTok slop featuring people with zero charisma.

[u/mythrilcrafter → u/Regnes]

My theory has always been that he realised that most of his views came from streamers reacting to his compilations (I even remember a period in which some of his video just called "Daily Dose of Emiru"), so he just swapped to stitching together long videos for them while also capturing the "just wanna see tons of brain rot" audience.

[u/Ratiocinor → u/Regnes]

One time he had a clip in his video split into parts and spread through the whole video, and everyone in the comments was like "omggg when he kept cutting back to the thing, I thought for sure that was it, it just kept getting crazier and crazier!"

So now he thinks every video he posts needs a clip chopped up and spread out because it worked that one time. Except it's normally something inane like kids flipping bottles onto a windowsill

Let's cut back to the kids flipping bottles for the 5th time, did they do it yet? No? Yes? Wow amazing. That was definitely worth chopping up and spreading through a 15 minute video

[u/caffeineandhatred → u/Regnes]

I've noticed there's been an uptick in ai videos too lately.

[u/NCfartstorm]

Epic Meal Time at its peak was hard to beat. The fall off was huge

[u/SubtleTell → u/NCfartstorm]

They just needed to change up their format. You can only make so many different bacon covered concoctions before it's all the same thing.

Mythical Kitchen is what EMT could have been honestly

[u/ImTedLassosMustache → u/SubtleTell]

I never realized the possible overlap between EMT and mythical kitchen content. Maybe that is why I love them both. Josh would have fit in well with the chaos of EMT.

[u/ganderin_dan → u/NCfartstorm]

Whatchu know about that Jack Dagnels SAUUUUCE

[u/mapogo91 → u/ganderin_dan]

Bacon strips for those haters lips

[u/baconpoutine89 → u/NCfartstorm]

As soon as Muscles Glasses left, I lost interest.

[u/99timewasting → u/baconpoutine89]

The main guy claimed Muscles Glasses didn't contribute to the show besides showing up to be on camera once a month but was demanding a bigger share of the profits than everyone else. No idea if that's true since it's just one side of the story

[u/Thorebane → u/99timewasting]

It was pretty true.

[u/Mossberry4 → u/NCfartstorm]

there's only so many times you can wrap something in bacon before the universe fights back

[u/carnefarious]

Mark Rober. Just feels grossly corporate feeling to me. Also he made a video with one of the Paul’s and I refuse to support their behavior. He used to make really fun videos but I can’t stand it now. I’d like to know if I am overreacting or not.

[u/ShawshankException → u/carnefarious]

Probably the biggest victim of the Mr Beastification of YouTube

[u/JEtigers12 → u/ShawshankException]

Him and most of the food side of YouTube. So many channels are just I ATE EVERY (enter type of food) with a click bait thumbnail or I cooked a 2000 dollar wagyu steak style videos it drowns out the good content people make.

[u/TheSJDRising → u/carnefarious]

I feel this. I used to religiously watch every video of his the day they dropped and they were all quality. His video introducing his son as autistic was important, emotional and impactful. The whole 'bringing science to kids thing' felt authentic.

But there was a point in time where they just seemed to drop off the interest scale to me. I can't put my finger on why, but it was around the time of the 'shark/blood in the water' video. I've struggled to stay engaged with practically any of them since.

[u/RoosterBrewster → u/TheSJDRising]

It's more about shock value now than engineering. That's why I like Stuff Made Here where you see the effort and trouble to make an idea work. 

[u/Kryptosis → u/RoosterBrewster]

Or I Did a Thing who has you gripping your seat at the lack of shoes while angle grinding etc

For one reason or another…

[u/bamboohobobundles → u/carnefarious]

My kid really likes Mark Rober and honestly I am fine with it because his content encourages creativity and problem solving and all of that.

This being said... I liked his older content a lot more. The squirrel obstacle course and the glitter bomb traps for porch pirates were peak Mark Rober. I feel like the recent stuff is a lot more obnoxious (although I guess that's how you keep the attention of kids of a certain age) and yes, very corporate. I also wasn't pleased he did a collab with Mr. Beast, I refuse to let my kid watch that episode lol.

[u/darent13 → u/bamboohobobundles]

The squirrel episode was my absolute favorite.

[u/PassivelyAwkward → u/bamboohobobundles]

That's why I stopped watching him but one I'm okay with.

He went from doing these fairly detailed and elaborate science experiments to catering more and more towards kids like "Breaking the record for elephant tooth paste!" and "Recreated this eight year olds favorite episode of a cartoon in real life!". Figured that he's basically modern generations Mr Wizard or Bill Nye; if it inspires kids to get into science, great!

Though I wish he'd stop collaborating with shitty youtubers like Mr Beast.

[u/lovesyouandhugsyou → u/carnefarious]

I think a big part of this is that he's deliberately switched to targeting a younger demographic, and so a lot of us are no longer the intended audience.

[u/Otto_the_Autopilot → u/lovesyouandhugsyou]

He's trying to sell camps and subscription boxes to children.  His videos are methods to advertise and children are the target audience for his products.  

[u/joeychin01 → u/carnefarious]

Absolutely loved his content until he tried filming a video at his local amusement park… just during the day, holding his phone out to record on the ride. There’s a million signs everywhere saying no recording on rides, and it’s fairly easy to get the approvals to record the video before/after the park opens to not be breaking the rules.

Instead he gets kicked out of the park, and puts kids saying he shouldn’t be kicked out in the video, and pretends to be the victim of clear park policy. Just clearly thinking he’s better than the rules, and disregarding everyone else’s safety.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/qNgL7ebGSI0

[u/Omnitographer]

Simon and Martina was great until it wasn't, then it felt like being in the middle of your parent's divorce.

[u/15021993 → u/Omnitographer]

Ha I was scanning comments to see if someone mentions them. Their channel was such a novel idea to bring Korean and then Japanese culture more to the front. They seemed like such a good pair. Their divorce was a mess and it was really like „nah I stay with mom“ feeling.

[u/Shivering- → u/15021993]

I used to watch them back in the day but fell off. What happened in their divorce?

[u/dinvador → u/Shivering-]

Simon turned into some new age grifter and admitted he burned out trying to be the ultimate caretaker for Martina. I'm sure there's lots more to the story but ultimately Simon ruined his reputation by arguing with people online, Martina dropped vague hints occasionally but mostly stayed quiet aside from answering a few questions about the divorce here and there. Simon still has full control over the orginal eatyourkimchi accounts and repurposed them into his weird pseudo psychology bookclub bullshit. Martina has a new channel, KingKogi, which is basically exactly like the old EYK videos so I recommend it.

Also, they haven't officially announced it and I don't think they want speculation about it, but tbh its blatant that she's in a relationships with Dan (the cameraman from EYK). Martina liked some comments about it on one of her recent youtube videos or shorts.

[u/Superb-Salad6323 → u/dinvador]

Eatyourkimchi was such a gem, I used to watch all of their videos when they were in Korea, then I kinda lost interest when they moved to Japan. The news of their divorce was shocking to me because I'd been a fan of EYK since I was a kid and I used to think they were the ideal couple. Simon in particular had the image of a guy who was extremely devoted to his wife. The whole mess that happened after their divorce made me realize that it's never good to idealize any relationship or person on the internet.

Martina was pretty heavy handed with her hints, she basically did everything to imply that Simon was an abusive narcissist. I don't know whether to believe her or not because that's their messy personal shit, all I know is that Simon is really fucking weird now and has apparently fallen into the right wing grifter pipeline. The weirdest thing is that he acts like he has no connection to the 15(?) or so years he spent living in Asia. Such a massive part of their lives and now he has no interest or attachment to it.

There's an old video on the eyk channel where Simon explained his tattoo where he had himself as a gray duck and Martina as a rainbow duck that was filling him up with color. Watching him after the divorce, it really looks like Simon was an empty person who was just leeching his whole personality from Martina. He's completely different now, not just like he changed but like his old personality was always fake. On the other hand, Martina is still the same as before. Still loves Japan, still cooks Korean food, still loves exploring Asian grocery stores, etc. We'll never know who did what in their relationship, but I'm more inclined to believe Martina.

[u/AccidentalWit → u/Omnitographer]

At least Martina’s still making fun videos

[u/seiko_diver]

Cracked

[u/Loose_Goose369 → u/seiko_diver]

I do miss peak Cracked. I'm still content with my Behind the Bastards and Some More News

[u/Vasgorath → u/seiko_diver]

What I wouldn't give for an after hours revival

[u/christameff → u/Vasgorath]

Michael Swaim has a channel called Small Beans that has some spinoff videos called Off Hours and some video calls featuring the After Hours cast

[u/OkTreat9982]

Game Theory and GT Live because corporate sellout.

[u/ctortan → u/OkTreat9982]

When game theory switched from science based analysis to story and lore theorizing is where it lost the magic for me

[u/EpicLegendX → u/ctortan]

I actually didn’t mind the lore analysis because it was entertaining, but the channel did lose a lot of its charm when lore theorizing became the bulk of content and when MatPat left.

When they leaned into fnaf lore and started pulling in big numbers you could tell there was no going back. Path of least resistance and all that.

[u/Cassiotus]

GradeAunderA

[u/Informal-Egg6075 → u/Cassiotus]

His stuff was funny when I thought he was playing a character. Then he revealed that it wasn't a character and he actually is just petty, out of touch, nitpicky asshole.

[u/4LostSoulsinaBowl → u/Cassiotus]

I had to stop watching when he went from complaining about stupidity to complaining about wokeness fucking constantly

That, and the fact that he would take a year hiatus, come back with a whole plan for a schedule, and then disappear after 2 videos for another year

[u/astriael → u/Cassiotus]

his humour was a little crass at times but I remember finding some of his early videos very funny

[u/Monteze → u/astriael]

The whole "I am not a drama channel! I hate drama but....here is drama!" Then it kept going and going.

[u/sebrebc]

A lot of woodworking channels became tool review and/or funny skit/tried TikTok hacks channels and do very little woodworking. 

[u/Switchy_Goofball → u/sebrebc]

Woodworking YouTube really fell off a cliff a while back. Now it’s all either “tool reviews” ie ads, or they’ve built massive shops stocked with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of highly specialized tools and have become totally unrelatable

[u/Lord_Val]

I used to fucking love Softwhiteunderbelly. They used to focus on showing a side of humanity that others dont reallly get see. But recently, the tone of the video just feel like its primary focus is just trauma-farming.

[u/deadinsidelol69 → u/Lord_Val]

Some of the people he’s interviewed have come forward and said he was quite creepy towards them and they felt exploited by him as if their misfortune in life was a ticket to a freak show for him.

[u/slusho55]

Illuminaughti all the way.

I think her channel is still around, but Illuminaughti (aka Blair) was cool until she was exposed as being as bad as the people she exposed.

She basically made anti-capitalist YouTube essays that would explain the issues with our society and how many of the rich and powerful have manipulated with things like company towns.

Unfortunately, Blair was exposed as being just as bad, blackmailing people, attempting to make her own company town (after breaking them down in a video essay), and manipulating the legal system to bully others. Like her essays now feel less like activism and like I’m watching some weird serial capitalist wannabe layout her entire playbook

[u/Hactar42 → u/slusho55]

I jumped ship from her the second I heard about her attacking Legal Eagle, saying her copied her because he used a torn page effect in his videos. Talk about projection.

[u/theaviationhistorian → u/Hactar42]

I found that hilarious. She decided to sue a lawyer!

[u/nu24601 → u/slusho55]

I can't say her old content was actually good because I didn't know I was watching stolen content.

[u/NtheLegend → u/nu24601]

I remember being really into her content during lockdown, but there was always something... a little off about it, especially with how quickly it was being produced. Then she Streisanded herself and it was all over.

[u/Pussy4LunchDick4Dins → u/NtheLegend]

I used to like her channel until I watched a video about something I actually know a lot about. She was absolutely full of shit. So many mistakes and misunderstanding that only someone wholly ignorant of the subject would make. I realized it was all fake. 

[u/rachelcb42]

I feel like the YouTube algorithm is the main reason why so many of my favorite channels went downhill. I used to love watching Minecraft Playthroughs and I had a couple channels that I watched regularly as if they were network TV. But they've all stopped doing that type of content because it just doesn't do well with the algorithm anymore. I know I know, every playthrough of every game ever is not original or unique, but I watched them ALL and it's just not the same to go back and rewatch.

We really had it good in the 2010s😭

[u/votemarvel]

I used to enjoy Boogie2988 for his Francis character. The Error 37 rant video was brilliant.

Sadly it turned out that Francis was the real person and Boogie was the character.

[u/AE5CP → u/votemarvel]

Yeah, he started to fall about 10 years ago and it has been an amazing study in how one can destroy their entire life. I don't wish bad things for him, he just needs help.

I live in the same area as him, have seen him in public before a few times. Never interacted with him, but I would be pissed if I was his neighbor with some of the stuff that has happened around his house.

[u/JAJ_reddit → u/AE5CP]

Boogie rug pulled his audience with a shitcoin then pretended to have cancer to milk his dwindling audience for more money. I do wish bad things for him.

[u/MatthewHecht]

RealLifeLore from great videos to 40 minute videos saying nothing.

[u/dcdttu → u/MatthewHecht]

I've moved over to Wendover Productions.

[u/turbie_twist → u/dcdttu]

I’ve loved both channels for a long time but the last RLL video I watched about the nonstop flight from Aus to London felt like I was stuck in a time warp just listening to the same bit over and over again for a half hour. Just dreadful.

[u/Big_Jiggle → u/MatthewHecht]

Thumbnail: “WHY NOBODY LIVES HERE!?” Points to mountain range

Video: spends 25 minutes explaining “because there are mountains”

[u/PeterDupree]

Josh weissmans original channel

[u/Shaun32887 → u/PeterDupree]

He's a pretty well documented asshole at this point, so no big loss

[u/Fresh_Mood1420 → u/PeterDupree]

He's unfunny and seems super patronising

[u/TeuthidTheSquid → u/PeterDupree]

There’s a reason he’s the face of this meme

[u/genericmediocrename → u/PeterDupree]

That smarmy fuck said that fried cheese curds were just mozzarella sticks. Unsubscribed from any channels that even do collabs with him after that. Fuck Josh Weissman

[u/JustFerne → u/genericmediocrename]

I went to a book tour for one of Binging with Babish's cookbooks a couple years ago, and had a chance to have a conversation with Babish/Andrew. He told me that Josh Weissman is one of the biggest assholes to work with in the food youtuber scene (maybe because Babish knew that no one would believe me if I repeated that he told me so?) and I wasn't really surprised.

[u/genericmediocrename → u/JustFerne]

This was very validating, thank you. And I trust that Babish is the kind of guy who could recognize a good curd

[u/chammycham → u/genericmediocrename]

He’s in my city so YouTube looooves to recommend him because I sometimes watch cooking things. I’ve had to select “not interested” “do not recommend” “do not show me this” options so many fucking times.

[u/genericmediocrename → u/chammycham]

The YouTube "don't show me this channel" button exists solely to gaslight users fr

[u/Extrovert_89]

TobyGames/Tobuscus...watched his Minecraft and Happy Wheels stuff for eons. Last thing I watched was his "Get Bloody" video before moving on in my interests.

So maybe not just the channel, but from what I heard he got into hot water after I quit watching.

In the same vein...Illuminaughtii. Watched her during Covid and then when her old colleagues and ex partner outed her abhorrent treatment of them, I hit that Unsubscribe button.

[u/Tonitonichopper → u/Extrovert_89]

Not to mention, Illuminatii, thanks to Hbomberguy, was outed as a massive plagiarizer on just about every one of her videos.

[u/Extrovert_89 → u/Tonitonichopper]

If it weren't for the fact I watch LegalEagle sometimes, I don't think I'd have known about it until her disastrous response video

[u/OttersAndOttersAndOt → u/Extrovert_89]

He’s turned into a full blown nazi. This is not an accusation, it’s self admitted. He’s gone off the deep end

[u/Melodic-Society-6496 → u/OttersAndOttersAndOt]

Imagine telling someone from the early 2010s that the Annoying Orange guy is trans and Tobuscus became a neo-Nazi.

[u/WestEmotion8771]

Buzzfeed unsolved (now called "watcher"). Used to love them, now its just boring shit that lacks the original charm.

[u/TrustDaProcess → u/WestEmotion8771]

Watcher could’ve literally been Ryan, Shane and a couple employees filming unsolved mysteries related content in someone’s garage and it would’ve been infinitely better than what they turned the channel into.

[u/alotofpisces → u/TrustDaProcess]

I agree. I loved them on Buzzfeed but the charm has gone when they started Watcher.

[u/Labyrinthine8618 → u/WestEmotion8771]

I really loved their "Are you scared?" series until they turned it into sponsored content for upcoming horror movies. There were legitimately good user submitted stories and the skeptic/true believer dynamic was good.

[u/curtmahgurt → u/WestEmotion8771]

Oh boy. Not only is their content just not as good as it was when they worked for Buzzfeed, but Watcher killed off a huge part of their most loyal fan base when they tried to pivot to their own streaming platform. They announced that they were “leaving YouTube”, so they could charge a monthly fee on their own streaming service. They argued that they needed to shift to this model so they could start making “TV quality content”. It went over about as poorly as you can imagine. The backlash was wild, and they immediately reversed their decision to stop posting on YouTube.

Recently, they had to lay a bunch of people off (mostly their friends), and dramatically shrink Watcher as a company. Never before have I seen someone just absolutely light their company on fire like that, and it really seemed like they had no clue that it was coming.

[u/donotgotoroom237 → u/curtmahgurt]

>Recently, they had to lay a bunch of people off (mostly their friends), and dramatically shrink Watcher as a company. Never before have I seen someone just absolutely light their company on fire like that, and it really seemed like they had no clue that it was coming.

To preface this, their crew losing their jobs is horrible, and I feel bad for them. But I do think this is a net positive for the boys and the channel on a business perspective, especially after the drama.

I can't help but compare them to guys like Sugar Pine 7 back in the day. I remember when the ghoul boys did the Watcher office tour vid right as the last season of Unsolved was happening. I don't know, maybe it was the businessman in me, but when they showed their studio, their equipment, their large staff of Buzzfeed vets, all I could think of was the expense sheet. This is where Sugar Pine 7 comes in. When they started out after Sourcefed shut down, they had a humble office and adequate equipment. Way too nice for a "vlogging" channel, but it was reasonable. (Yes I know about IP), but Shane and Ryan could've literally just filmed in a dark room with some base equipment and edit on a couple computers (plus they're in LA, they could rent gear) and the fans would've been happy.

From an outsider looking in, I speculate they were bleeding money. I know hating on Steven has been done to death, but his shows on the channel makes me think of a long ass expense sheet.

[u/curtmahgurt → u/donotgotoroom237]

I recall right around when this drama with their streaming platform was happening, Steven had a travel show about eating expensive food abroad. It just seemed incredibly tone deaf when they were also hand wringing over the headcount at their company.

[u/donotgotoroom237 → u/WestEmotion8771]

I only watch Mystery Files because that's the only show they have on the channel that was like the old Unsolved format. I was stoked for Ghost Files but it just does not appeal to me. Still love them both despite the subscription drama.

[u/Woalolol]

BingingwithBabish. It's not garbage but the quality took a dive. I understand he's gone through a lot of life issues. So I'll cut him some slack. Just don't understand the vision. The whole culinary universe thing was cringey. I did enjoy Sohla and Rick and Alvin but they could have had their own channel. The content lost it's charm and then he started doing other videos that just didn't stick with me.

[u/Narfoogle → u/Woalolol]

Once he stopped being just the guy on camera who’s cooking the food and started being The Personality is when the channel started to get bad. I watched for recreations of food in media, not to see this guy pad out the runtime with his family unfunny schtick.

[u/alpha_whore → u/Woalolol]

But how else will I know one man's subjective opinion of 87 flavors of hot pocket?

[u/Ms_Sandwich → u/Woalolol]

I kept watching after the focus shifted. Then it was a few episodes in a row that I saw that made me think “I just saw the same thing/something similar on Good Mythical Morning”
That was it for me

[u/TrustDaProcess → u/Ms_Sandwich]

This was exactly how I felt.

The Babish videos basically started copying the same exact topics as GMM and the Try Guys Keith videos except the other two have much more entertaining hosts.

[u/tg-ia → u/Woalolol]

This. I understand the desire to monetize/expand and that's fine. But he just took a flight away from what made him great - no more TV foods, basics, etc. It was broad enough appeal everyone in my house liked them & done well enough that I learned how to improve my cooking. The new stuff is fine, but it was more about entertainment than cooking.

[u/cbih]

CinemaSins was pretty funny early on

[u/TheGardenBlinked → u/cbih]

I used to watch Cinemasins a lot, knowing it was intentionally nitpicky. But then it just got kind of boring, and I’ve seen more people in recent years criticize it for being overly negative

[u/copacetic1515 → u/TheGardenBlinked]

Not just overly negative, but a portion of the "sins" are just him (them?) not understanding the plot.

[u/Wabbit_Wampage → u/copacetic1515]

Or him complaining about choices he simply doesn't like. At least that's a lot of what I remember, but haven't watched that channel in many years due to all the aforementioned criticisms plus the fact that his videos are way too fucking long.

[u/B-Train_ATL → u/cbih]

I watched the Project Hail Mary one. As someone who knows the book and movie about as well as you can, it was ridiculous.

[u/EmbarrassedBag3 → u/cbih]

CinemaWins is where it’s at.

[u/Odric_storm → u/EmbarrassedBag3]

“Every movie is someone’s favorite. I want to find out why.”

[u/b1gl0s3r → u/EmbarrassedBag3]

Enjoying things is more fun than not enjoying them.

[u/Centurion87 → u/cbih]

It’s been really bad for a while. Like, I remember his video on Hateful Eight which was the last one I could stomach. One of the sins was “this door is broken, but somehow it’s fixed magically” when literally a few seconds after the clip he shows, it shows them literally telling the people who just walked in that the door is broken and they have to nail a plank to it to keep it shut.

[u/sharperspoon]

Polygon. The era of Brian David Gilbert, the McElroy brothers, and Nick Robinson was absolutely peak. BDG does his own thing now, making good content. McElroy's are back to podcasts and Monster Factory, and Nick Robinson is cancelled for good reason. After everyone left, Polygon lost its charm completely, focuses solely on clickbait articles, and videos that are just not as engaging.

Polygon used to be my most favourite channel. Honestly, love Griffin and BDG. I'm happy they still make some decent content.

[u/sunnydayzzyy]

I wouldn't say garbage but unpopular opinion? The Try Guys. I feel like they changed so much it's too different. I just completely lost interest really.

[u/Nimxc → u/sunnydayzzyy]

I think things weren't the same after losing Eugene. I thought they were still good even after the whole Ned debacle, but once Eugene left and they switched to an ensemble cast, things don't feel the same. I don't blame them for going that direction, since Zach and Keith weren't going to be able to carry the brand by themselves.

[u/agarret83 → u/sunnydayzzyy]

They kind of had to change after the whole Ned thing

[u/weirdestgeekever25 → u/sunnydayzzyy]

I do still watch occasionally, and I know Eugene was getting ready to leave, but than that fucking asshole ned did what he did, and it completely made them pivot and made Eugene stay on longer.

Still a fan, but don’t watch as much as I used to

[u/tere_adasme → u/sunnydayzzyy]

The whole ned affair thing shook things up, then Eugene left and the whole thing went downhill, their current content and cast aren't bad by an means, but it doesn't feel the same

[u/arthur-11]

Exploring with josh.

[u/Beautiful-Point4011]

I used to watch Illuminaughtii but gestures vaguely a lot of stuff happened

[u/Gold-Vanilla5591]

TwoSet Violin. Used to watch them in 2018-19 when I was in high school. Since the pandemic their videos are very clickbaity

[u/medisa → u/Gold-Vanilla5591]

Tbf, they themselves got burned out from chasing the algorithm. They tried to retire the channel to focus on their tours and more serious projects, but eventually started making videos again, this time more for fun than for the views. Titles and thumbnails are still sometimes clickbaity, but the vibe is more like old times, and they don't really have a consistent uploading schedule anymore, they just make vids when they feel like it.

[u/H0neyOTU]

I don't know that I can say it's straight garbage now, but How to Cook That with Ann Reardon got real fuckin weird when she started openly evangelizing in her videos

[u/ImFlyImPilot17]

Chris Stuckmann. I watched him for over a decade but he really fell off when he decided to become a filmmaker. He stopped doing film analysis and just praises movies.

[u/battling_murdock → u/ImFlyImPilot17]

His reviews just started feeling so empty. No real analysis, no real input. I know it's because he didn't want to offend people working in the industry when he made Shelby Oaks, but his reviews just became toothless

[u/Anagrama00 → u/ImFlyImPilot17]

This.

The last few years the reviews are just gleeful praising of a lot of average movies.

He's no longer a critic. He's a cheerleader. He's like the Jimmy Fallon of YouTube film reviews.

[u/Smile_Space]

All of the channels that got bought out by Private Equity and Venture Capital.

Veritasium, Donut Media, and very sadly Fern.

[u/NorthSouthWhatever]

Veritasium is slowly succumbing to the acquisition I feel.

[u/TingleWizard → u/NorthSouthWhatever]

They have a lot of annoying clickbait.

[u/EdinburghPerson → u/NorthSouthWhatever]

Anytime a video has a recap (precap?)at the beginning, I want to turn it off.

[u/Big_LunchBox → u/NorthSouthWhatever]

I agree but i really cant blame the guy, he made a video point this out and saying that hes been spending more time with his family rather than making youtube videos and leaving that to his team

[u/Anarcha0s]

Tobuscus

[u/Joltie → u/Anarcha0s]

That one went downhill, but once it reached the groundfloor, it kept going down. I wouldn't recommend anyone visiting the channel nowadays. It is grim.

[u/incrediblejonas → u/Joltie]

holy shit he released a pro-ice song called "invader scum" with the chorus "GTFO of my country"

[u/Strong0toLight1 → u/Anarcha0s]

happy wheels, the literal trailers. they were absolutely peak as a kid.

toby is a complete POS though

[u/At12ABQ]

Whistlindiesel. Miss his old redneck shit videos. Now he’s just a giant insecure douchebag who destroys shit without purpose.

[u/JMM123]

Nostalgia Critic. To be fair he was probably always unfunny garbage and the first mover advantage really helped him. But back in the mid/late 2000s it was genuinely fun to hear him rant about all the stupid stuff from your childhood.

[u/donotgotoroom237 → u/JMM123]

A BAT CREDIT CARD?!

[u/T-DogSwizle → u/JMM123]

I was a literal child when i first started watching NC and it was my favourite stuff, a lot of the movies were actually from before I was born so they weren’t nostalgic to me but I still thought it was funny.
I was into the whole fricking channel awesome cinematic universe( linkara, Todd in the shadows etc)
I stopped watching him partially because I stopped finding the videos as funny, but also I was going off to college and didn’t really have time to sit and watch a full 40 mins video. I found that with the increased production value and length of videos just didn’t hold me the same as when it was just a dude yelling at a camera in his basement. In end I became nostalgic for the earlier days of the nostalgia critic lol.

I still watch Angry video game nerd when he uploads tho

[u/metalmankam]

Ya know I'm gonna just say it. Linus Tech Tips. All the people that made it enjoyable have moved on. It also doesn't help that most tech is purely depressing these days. I don't care about computer hardware reviews anymore it all costs too much. The tech house stuff is just construction diaries. I don't care about construction. They used to do cool shit like "we hooked up a car radiator to some noctua fans to cool this PC" and it's just not the same channel anymore. I have no idea what kind of stuff they could do but I just haven't been enjoying their videos. It also feels like every video is just an ad now.

[u/Grey_0ne → u/metalmankam]

I stopped watching when I realized that his videos were basically just sponsored content. Plenty of tech review channels are the same these days... And they're all shit.

[u/queen_soo]

Kids/Adults React - after they kicked Sharon out for being too popular and “too old”, that was the end for me.

[u/tiltedslim → u/queen_soo]

For me it was when they tried to copyright all reaction videos.

[u/DoveOnTheInternet → u/tiltedslim]

That's when they lost me. But wtf did they do to Sharon?!

[u/saintplus → u/queen_soo]

The kids on the video have spoken about how they made the kids say certain opinions and that they weren't allowed to actually say their real opinions.

[u/EnvironmentalBug5525]

Wranglerstar, used to be about homesteading and stuff, until it wasn't.

[u/jrworthy → u/EnvironmentalBug5525]

That guy really went off into some kind of weirdo land.

[u/robstorm9000]

Cody Ko. Don’t know if it’s garbage or dead since the allegations. But I don’t visit anymore.

[u/LethienNull → u/robstorm9000]

Ugh, still mad about this one. Fuck Cody. TMG in its prime was so good.

[u/Slongo702]

Ants Canada

Used to be giant cool antfarms.

Now it's all animal abuse and God complex.

[u/Moose-Rage]

Shadiversity.

Real sad what he's become.

[u/brionneverysexy → u/Moose-Rage]

I liked him enough to buy his book! Its the only book I have thrown away because nobody should have to accidently be subjected to that because they got it for free.

The premise is the main character was a violent dictator who escaped got old and by happenchance became young again with super powers and wants to make up for his bad legacy. The twist at the end is that part of his legacy is he raped an uncountable number of people. His handlers ran out of adults for him to rape and started bringing him children and he raped them like it was required. He realizes rape is bad when he meets a victim and finds out his rape was so brutal it made her unable to have children. Thats the big character moment. Realizing raping children is bad because then they might not be able to have children.

[u/Moose-Rage → u/brionneverysexy]

Yeah, I heard his book was very....rape obsessed.

[u/brionneverysexy → u/Moose-Rage]

The rape could have all just been removed. It wasn't necessary in any way.

[u/Jane_Lame → u/brionneverysexy]

Jesus H Christ! Who the fuck thinks this is a good Idea for a novel for other people to read?! 

[u/Hailfog → u/Moose-Rage]

Scholagladiatoria, Skallagrim, and Tod’s Workshop were always better for historical weaponry. Glad they’re still producing.

[u/Maxie468 → u/Moose-Rage]

1. watch the funny half fat man swing swords and shit on nunchucks

2. see he has a new channel, check it out

3. it's just culture war trash

4. go back to only watching him poke stuff

5. see him complain about the youtube algorithm ruining his metrics

6. unsub

[u/JustReve → u/Moose-Rage]

On the other side, his brother Jazza is a wholesome dude. Last that I recall, their relationship is quite strained.

[u/Much-Struggle-1693]

Vice. Went from super cool niche high quality documentary-style raw videos to whatever centrist B.S. podcaster crap and reuploaded videos masked as new. So sad.

[u/Fresh-Librarian-2388]

Weissman

[u/screeRCT → u/Fresh-Librarian-2388]

FUCKING YES.

He just comes across all high and mighty. His growing arrogance in front of camera is a huge turn off. His content shift from actual recipes and chef tips to challenges and click bait content was cringe. Also, theres workplace allegations against him which i wouldn't dispute were false.

In addition, as a brewer, he has one of the most watched homebrew videos on YouTube, and the content is complete bollocks. Even worse than the content, is the admission that he doesnt like beer. WHY ARE YOU FUCKING MAKING IT THEN, AND WRONG FOR THAT MATTER.

[u/greenzig → u/screeRCT]

You should check out internetshaquille, way better cooking tips & tricks youtuber

[u/herbstwerk]

AvE - went in a not so fun, not only conspiracy flavored, direction of weird early COVID.

[u/thisismy2ndtossaway → u/herbstwerk]

Yep.  Used to be funny tool reviews, now he's an unfunny tool.

[u/markevens → u/herbstwerk]

I'm surprised I had to scroll so far to see this.

He used to be one of the best tool reviews on youtube, then went full conspiracy.

[u/tlollz52]

Binging with Babish

When he got the new studio and start hocking his own brand it was over.

[u/Graceless33]

Simplynailogical. Cristine used to do nail art tutorials and product reviews and other fun stuff, but now all she posts are video game streams and hours-long streams where she promotes her nail polish brand.

[u/jakashadows → u/Graceless33]

She posted a video a few years ago explaining why she doesn't post videos anymore. Basically the toll of trying to make funny content constantly, where she was essentially alone filming and editing, was too much on her mental health. Plus all the time and energy she puts into her brand.

She enjoys streaming because she can talk back and forth in chat and its a lot more like a community which is better for her.

I miss her videos a lot, I still watch some of the edited streams but I'm happy she's doing well for herself.

[u/eden_sc2 → u/jakashadows]

I've heard that tune from a lot of creators. Videos are a lot of work to make but streams are more chill, often more fun, and usually more profitable

[u/mundane-mondays → u/Graceless33]

Sadly agree. Her polish is bomb (blue basecoat changed my life) so I still support her but I no longer watch her channel.

[u/danganranger]

Literally any creator that started out discussing spooky fiction/paranormal stuff then turned into a true crime channel.

[u/WyldFlowerWyldFire → u/danganranger]

Scary Interesting is still a goat channel. No garbage AI and he takes requests!

[u/Drukeyyyyy]

Rooster Teeth, I practically grew up watching their content. Everything just seemed to go downhill when Monty Oum died.

[u/Forever_Ka-niggit]

Redletter Media. Now that they’re all elderly with dementia, it’s become too erotic for me.

[u/TheHarkinator → u/Forever_Ka-niggit]

Rich Evans is too famous to be hanging around with those other hack frauds, but it’s nice of him to help Mike with his dementia by talking with him about Star Trek.

[u/Bakabakabooboo → u/Forever_Ka-niggit]

Had me in the first half ngl.

[u/Corgiboom2]

Game Spot. They got rid of their entire Experts React section which was basically the only thing worth watching there, and now they suck. Everyone from Experts React moved over to EXP.

[u/Nothos927]

CallMeKevin, his newer stuff is fine but you can just feel his heart isn’t in it anymore.

[u/toomanyDolemites → u/Nothos927]

Didn't he basically say that a while back? I sort of remember a channel update video where he was like "I can't keep doing this at the pace I have been."

[u/creatyvechaos → u/toomanyDolemites]

He took a major step back at the end of last year, or maybe the year before that idk. Really cut down on his daily videos, slowly petered into once a month before equalizing somewhere around 2–3 a month. I didn't watch many of his videos during that period. Too depressing for me because like the other guy said, he seemed to not even want to be doing YouTube in the first place. But he recently started making vlogs of him doing stuff. I decided to crack open the trailer remodeling one. He seemed to really be enjoying himself, more like what I subbed to him for. He started playing longform content again either shirtly before or shortly after the aforementioned video—seems his heart is a little more in those ones.

But he is still going through a lot

[u/Boots_in_cog_neato → u/Nothos927]

Yeah, I believe he’s been going through it. I mean.. his house is/was falling down

[u/Unfit-Pixie-171]

Game theory. Damn I miss Mattpat, but good on him for getting out when it was still decent ish

[u/Dr_Garp]

Cracked is also a good answer. Then they shut down and changed and tried to back but it’s too late tbh

[u/TheGardenBlinked]

I loved JonTron’s stuff way back when. Somewhere around I think when he changed location, his humour and approach to videos changed too. They just weren’t the same, the delivery was different, he wasn’t as funny.

He then went and said some pretty eyebrow-raisingly racist things, so now even his older stuff is a tough watch. I have no idea if he still has a fandom or if he uploads. I remember the sub gave up and started talking about Wario Land after he was a year plus since last uploading

Also, the whole Completionist mess. I heard Jirard is back uploading now, but I can’t imagine his videos hit the same way they once did

[u/ctortan]

I loved graystillplays’ sims videos

[u/Nothos927 → u/ctortan]

His videos were great up until like 2021 when he almost exclusively started doing slop videos of GTA challenge clickbaits and mobile apps