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u/RadinQue 2h ago

To me it doesn’t. I never know if L1 is the shoulder button or the trigger. I don’t understand the numbering. If the shoulder is L1 then I’d assume the numbering goes top to bottom, but in that case why is the stick L3 and not L1?

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u/peepeevs 2h ago edited 2h ago

From up to down..? Who would think L2 is the top one, and L1 is the bottom?

L3 I can kind of understand, but as long as you know the other two it should be fine

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u/RadinQue 2h ago

Just because you don’t, doesn’t mean nobody else would. Besides, my main issue is with the stick that’s technically the highest and closest to you, so why is it L3?

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u/Mister__Knister 2h ago

Because L3/R3 were introduce with the PS2. PS1 did not have L3/R3 yet, only L1/L2/R1/R2.

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u/FoxMeadow7 1h ago

There weren’t any games that asked you to press an analog stick in ps1?

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u/Crimson-Knight 1h ago

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u/jodobrowo 1h ago

Exactly! I remember when I first played Ape Escape, which as far as I know, is the game that really first introduced the dual stick control. That game was SO difficult for my 9 year old brain, mainly because no other game had used the sticks like that.

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u/FoxMeadow7 42m ago

I know that. But I was naturally asking about DualShock supported games here; whether or not any of them used the stick buttons. Given that it was possible to my knowledge, there had to have been some.

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u/RadinQue 2h ago

I see. This kind of underlines the issue with numbering though, as opposed to directly naming buttons.
Someone else mentioned not being native English speaker (which I am also not) and that’s a fair point, I suppose.

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u/peepeevs 2h ago edited 1h ago

Because they're extras. Not every game would use the stick buttons. But almost every game would use the 1s and 2s.

EDIT: Correction, it was due to the fact that the PS1 did not even have joysticks, and thus no stickbuttons, as other commenters have kindly pointed out

Tbf, my purwiew really wasn't of the stick buttons to begin with. To name those RS/LS never caused me any issues. It's the RB/RT stuff that is sometimes annoying.

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u/hempires 1h ago

It's because the OG playstation controller didn't even have analogue sticks for a good while.

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u/peepeevs 1h ago

Yeah, I forgot that bit of the lore. My first console was the Nintendo64, after which I went the PS2+ route (now PC), so I lack the vivid childhood memeroies of it.

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u/FoxMeadow7 1h ago

The naming of the stick ’buttons’ are kinda funky wouldn’t you agree? L3 and R3 at least appears to be solely PlayStation’s domain so there shouldn’t be any confusions about that. But outside of that whether or not they’re LS and RS or simply L and R seems to be all over the place…

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u/RadinQue 2h ago

I understand. I think it depends on what you learned those buttons on. I mainly use the PS controller nowadays and I don’t normally have issues finding L1 and L2 but sometimes, when I’m not in the flow I do have to stop for a moment to remember. This has never been the case with LB and LT, but I blame it on the fact that I used Xbox controllers first.

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u/peepeevs 2h ago

As someone coming from the PS controls at first, I would intuitively read RB as "right back".

But I think it also not uncommon to intuitively translate them as "Right Top" and "Right Bottom", which I think really is a design oversight. "Top" and "Bottom" would more likely be your first guess for what those letter mean over "Bumper/Trigger".

I have played with the Xbox controls long enough to be used to it now, but it took a while for it to really sink in, much moreso than R1/R2 ever did.

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u/RadinQue 2h ago

I never thought of RB as Right Bottom but it does make sense. I feel less ignorant now.

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u/nicknaksowhack 1h ago

L1/L2 came before L3. The stick didn’t originally have click. That wasn’t added until DualShock, I think.

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u/agentofvictory 2h ago

I always thought L1/L2 made perfect sense. You always have your FIRST (index) finger on the L'1' and your SECOND (middle) finger on the trigger ie L'2' 🤷‍♀️

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u/RadinQue 1h ago

You* always have it that way, me, I use the index finger for both.

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u/Tardelius 2h ago

With L3 and R3, you are just confusing yourself when there is nothing confusing about this.

Understandable, if you never used a PS controller and imagination is kind of like extrapolation.

People that are new to gaming does not know at first that L stick and R stick also functions like a button. So, they understand L1/L2 and R1/R2 easily. There is also a historical reason for this naming.

First PlayStation controllers didn’t had sticks so L3 and R3 did not existed. Sony avoided the mistake that Nintendo did with Switch Pro controllers by keeping the same name convention for existing buttons (based on some comments I saw here regarding gamecube and switch pro controllers).