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u/EldritchMacaron 3h ago

And to this day I don’t get the change, X for no and O for yes makes much more sense even here in the west

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u/Kaymazo 1h ago

Depends, red circle is also heavily connotated with "forbidden/no" here, e.g. in traffic signs

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u/Nervous-Fennel3325 2h ago

Evidently not as it never changed and when Nintendo did it on their switch controllers everyone here has issues because of that.

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u/ChudSmasher69420 2h ago

Nobody made any change. This is just the pattern western developers fell into with little-to-no prior knowledge of how they were doing it in Japan.

As for why they fell into doing it that way? Because the bottom face button is infinitely more comfortable to use as the "Button you're going to be pressing all the time" than the right one.

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u/jabaash 2h ago

Subjective. You’re just saying that because you got used to it. I grew up with Nintendo and have barely played XBox and pressing O position to confirm is definitely more comfortable than X position.
There’s generally less arguments for X being confirm vs O, from shape language and colour supporting O confirm X cancel, to O being the first button from the side yiur thumb is coming from, therefore being the first button from the point of reference for your hand. X being confirm mostly just feels random.

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u/Kaymazo 1h ago

X as confirm would have some precedent in it being a common way of "selecting" an option, for example when filling out a form.

But yeah, neither is objectively correct, it's heavily dependent on cultural connotation

u/jabaash 2m ago

Yes, but X to select is pretty much exclusive to checkboxes. If I handed you a shopping list for example and it had something crossed out with an X, I wouldn’t assume it was something extra important, but that it was a mistake that it was added in the first place. Circling something however would make you believe that it was something extra important that you shouldn’t forget. Let’s not pretend like this is a cultural connotation exclusive to Japan. This is a very well recognized symbolism in the west too.