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[u/Dinosbacsi]

And then PS has the X on the bottom

[u/EldritchMacaron → u/Dinosbacsi]

And in Japan, i've seen ✖️ been used as a "B" and ⚫️ as a "A" (at least on my imported MHF3 on PSP), so it’s even more confusing

[u/Snoe_Gaming → u/EldritchMacaron]

Almost all Japanese games have the far right button as enter and the bottom button as cancel.

[u/EldritchMacaron → u/Snoe_Gaming]

And it makes much more sense to have X as No and O as yes for the symbols

[u/imSwan → u/EldritchMacaron]

After so many years on Playstation when I was a teenager my brain rewired itself to see X as yes and O as no

I know it's wrong but I can't help it

[u/WiSoSirius → u/imSwan]

PS2 years where triangle was No or Back

[u/Gaaaaha → u/EldritchMacaron]

But then Sony made the circle pink/red which is universal for stop/cancel and cross blue.

[u/EldritchMacaron → u/Gaaaaha]

That's true, but IMO Sony's pastel colors don't convey much

Xbox has bright Red/Green, these are much more explicit

[u/Spleenseer → u/Gaaaaha]

Not so universal.  The coloring still makes sense for Japanese audiences, which lines up with the X/O convention there.

[u/Kaymazo → u/Gaaaaha]

In Japan it's actually red for correct, and blue for incorrect still. So that very much isn't universal

[u/agravena → u/Snoe_Gaming]

except umamusume, it have western style confirm and cancel button for some reason

[u/hildebrand22 → u/EldritchMacaron]

I believe i read that all the buttons of ps face are supposed to translate to an rpg mechanic. X for "no", O for "yes", a triangle for map to represent the character arrow, and square was open menu since it looks like a little window.

[u/notacyborg → u/hildebrand22]

I thought I read long ago that Triangle was the third button (three points) and square was the fourth button (four points).

[u/Berruc → u/notacyborg]

And O is the first and X is the second (one line and two lines). I like that theory.

[u/notacyborg → u/Berruc]

Yea, I should have said lines instead. Circle is 1 line, X is 2 lines, etc. But yea, that's what I read years ago. They wanted to differentiate from Nintendo.

[u/Vectorman1989 → u/EldritchMacaron]

Circle is 'yes' and cross is 'no' in Japanese culture/design language but I think they changed them for the western releases of games.

[u/EldritchMacaron → u/Vectorman1989]

And to this day I don’t get the change, X for no and O for yes makes much more sense even here in the west

[u/Kaymazo → u/EldritchMacaron]

Depends, red circle is also heavily connotated with "forbidden/no" here, e.g. in traffic signs

[u/Nervous-Fennel3325 → u/EldritchMacaron]

Evidently not as it never changed and when Nintendo did it on their switch controllers everyone here has issues because of that.

[u/ChudSmasher69420 → u/EldritchMacaron]

Nobody made any change. This is just the pattern western developers fell into with little-to-no prior knowledge of how they were doing it in Japan.

As for why they fell into doing it that way? Because the bottom face button is infinitely more comfortable to use as the "Button you're going to be pressing all the time" than the right one.

[u/jabaash → u/ChudSmasher69420]

Subjective. You’re just saying that because you got used to it. I grew up with Nintendo and have barely played XBox and pressing O position to confirm is definitely more comfortable than X position.
There’s generally less arguments for X being confirm vs O, from shape language and colour supporting O confirm X cancel, to O being the first button from the side yiur thumb is coming from, therefore being the first button from the point of reference for your hand. X being confirm mostly just feels random.

[u/Kaymazo → u/jabaash]

X as confirm would have some precedent in it being a common way of "selecting" an option, for example when filling out a form.

But yeah, neither is objectively correct, it's heavily dependent on cultural connotation

[u/jabaash → u/Kaymazo]

Yes, but X to select is pretty much exclusive to checkboxes. If I handed you a shopping list for example and it had something crossed out with an X, I wouldn’t assume it was something extra important, but that it was a mistake that it was added in the first place. Circling something however would make you believe that it was something extra important that you shouldn’t forget. Let’s not pretend like this is a cultural connotation exclusive to Japan. This is a very well recognized symbolism in the west too.

[u/ty_namo → u/EldritchMacaron]

and if you play ps2-era games circle is not back, it's triangle

[u/Inevitable-Study502 → u/Dinosbacsi]

thats not x, its a cross, or batsu

and was designed to be cancel/no button and circle (maru) being yes/confirm button

[u/lordyeti → u/Inevitable-Study502]

Wasn't square supposed to represent a piece of paper, so it was for menus, and Triangle is also like an arrow, so it was for camera perspective changes, or something like that. 

[u/Inevitable-Study502 → u/lordyeti]

ye something like that

still better than on pc with 1 2 3 4 buttons :)

[u/lordyeti → u/Inevitable-Study502]

Ha! That immediately brings to mind the old colecovision controllers that had number buttons set up like a phone, including * and #.

[u/Dinosbacsi → u/Inevitable-Study502]

Bruh in this regard it does not matter what you call it. It's X shaped

[u/IAmDanHimself → u/Dinosbacsi]

At least it's still functions as the same button where it's position is. The "a" button on the switch controller functions the same as the "a" button on the xbox, but in a different spot. Same with the "b" button. The shapes on the PS controllers are standard positions, like the Xbox.