r/UnderReportedNews • u/ExactlySorta • 23h ago

Video Stephen Miller announces the US has taken the action of formally recognizing left wing violence as a form of political terrorism, claiming liberalism "is a direct threat to our national security and the survival of our Republican form of government"

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u/CharleyNobody 21h ago

There’s a reason why he and other Trumpers live on military bases. They’ve decapitated the military so that it will do whatever they tell it to do. Any military who refuses will be expelled and possibly jailed.

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u/Jermas 21h ago edited 12h ago

I can’t speak for everyone in the military, but I can assuredly say, “no, I won’t.” Military officers don’t pledge our allegiance to the office of the president. We raise our right hand to support the constitution of these United States. If given illegal orders from our civilian leadership, it is our duty to disregard those orders.

Does that potentially come at cost? Absolutely. It takes a lot of guts to disobey orders, and can take a lot of time in the aftermath to establish that those very orders were illegal. It’s no situation that anyone wants to be in, but it’s the current reality.

Edit: Holy cow, I’ve never gotten awards before; thank you!

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u/catsandcoconuts 20h ago

glad there’s still people like you out there.

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u/__Dionysus___ 15h ago

In the words of Admiral Jacky Fisher, "in war the first principle is to disobey orders, any fool can obey an order"

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u/Swervies 8h ago

I appreciate your service and your words. But I am having a hard time with the idea that illegal orders will actually be refused. The military has been illegally murdering people for many months now by blowing up civilian boats in both the Atlantic and Pacific. Those strikes are most definitely illegal, extrajudicial killings that are indefensible in any way. Do you agree?

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u/Inithra 18h ago

No, the current reality is that the US has illegally invaded Venuezala and replaced their government with Marco Rubio. The US has committed war crimes by firing on civilian fishing boats. The US committed murder when they killed the survivors of attacks on fishing boats. The US has started an illegal war in Iran, and Trump is using it to personally profit.

How many of the above illegal acts have you been personally ordered to take part in and refused? How many people do you serve with that have done this?

From an outside perspective, the US is murdering innocent people in the THOUSANDS every single day, and you are complicit in that by continuing to serve in their military.

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u/Datfiyah 16h ago

We haven’t heard of a single person resisting those very illegal orders.

So while the person above’s words sound really nice and inspiring, they are very likely filled with hot air, much like Trump’s own.

Cowardice is a terrible disease in this country.

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u/tianas_knife 15h ago

No one is going to hear about military members resisting orders for decades if at all. To the fascists it's a bad look for the to see military members resisting.

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u/princessPeachyK33n 15h ago

Do you think people don’t resist illegal orders?? I stg people should really talk to more veterans….

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u/frogspjs 13h ago

Dang. You think every single person in the military would obey an illegal order?

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u/Inithra 8h ago

There's plenty of them being given, a shit load of evidence for them being carried out. Not a lot of anything for them being refused. I've seen the officer on the steps and this guy.

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u/Caek294758 15h ago

Glad there's people like you but all the leaders have bent over and taken it.

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u/unrivaledhumility 15h ago

Honestly, sort of surprised he hasn't done the Hitler thing yet and make them pledge allegiance to him.

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u/AmericusBarbaricuss 14h ago

That’s beautiful—and it echoes what I’ve heard from a uniformed loved one. Turns out, when our leadership doesn’t give a fancy fuck about your strategic mission or your lives, you can see that very clearly. Who’da thunk it? Three cheers for you & your like-minded siblings in arms.❤️❤️❤️

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u/KassieMac 13h ago

I was married to a former Marine and I vividly recall his description of the military structure. What I heard was a carefully constructed catch-22 that enabled the military to blame soldiers whether their orders are legal or not, whether the soldier followed them or not … all credit goes up to leadership and all blame goes down to the soldiers. The most astonishing part was that this college-educated engineer couldn’t conceive of what he described in such detail. I had briefly considered a military scholarship to get through college as an alternative to living with abusive parents, but I couldn’t get straight answers out of anyone. Hearing my ex describe such an exploitative structure with such reverence really validated my choice.

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u/reddaddiction 9h ago

As far as percentages go, do you think that most people in the military have the same outlook as you?

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u/5_kingdoms 8h ago

I really appreciate the good men and women who are upholding these values and yet so few have called him out. And national guard just killed a man in the street https://taskandpurpose.com/news/national-guard-memphis-fatal-shooting/ I used to think the military was smarter and more loyal but now they have taken the moral backbone away and are giving gender affirming care to soldiers who’s dks don’t get hard enough for Pete Hegseth

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u/Woodpecker-Lobotomy 6h ago

Military officers don’t pledge our allegiance to the office of the president

Someone tell that to the officers that keep carrying out bombings of Iran or blowing up fishing boats in the Caribbean

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u/PurpleSalt11 5h ago

That's bullshit and you know it. Unless you're at the top, you're not taking orders from any civilian leadership. You're taking orders from your direct superior, who takes it from theirs, who takes it from theirs, who will take it from civilian leadership. You'll just say you were following orders when you stand trial.

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u/deaddreamsneverdie 20h ago

Redditors are making up doomsday scenarios in their own head because it’s easier than getting out, volunteering, and doing the hard work.

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u/schwanzweissfoto 19h ago

“I would die for you!” – “Okay, but would you do the dishes for me?”

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u/Fit-Technician-1148 15h ago

I did all of that for 10 years and Trump got elected twice. If what you were talking about actually worked we'd have a different world right now. Truth is no amount of hard work and volunteering can counter act the massive amount of propaganda that people willingly ingest from their phones all day every day.

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u/deaddreamsneverdie 15h ago edited 15h ago

We have fought these battles before Trump and will fight them again after. Progress isn’t linear, read a fucking book.

If you want to sit in your defeatism, despair, and ignorance thats on you.

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u/Kooky-Capital8782 9h ago

Remind us who your Commander in Chief is.

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u/FizzyBeverage 17h ago

I love that for him. He's sitting there in government housing with cinder block walls and a linoleum floor, like an inner city public school. Miserable about it. Probably has flickering fluorescent lights in the drop ceiling and a noisy Pepsi machine that's broken and dispensing warm cans.

It's not enough punishment, but it'll do for now that his family is petrified of being seen in public.

His major concern should be his years after Trump is gone and he has no more secret service. He's pissed off a lot of people.

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u/StPatrickStewart 16h ago

Eh, hitler was living in a bunker, and that didn't work out well for him either.