r/UnderReportedNews • u/ExactlySorta • 23h ago

Video Stephen Miller announces the US has taken the action of formally recognizing left wing violence as a form of political terrorism, claiming liberalism "is a direct threat to our national security and the survival of our Republican form of government"

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u/GeoisGeo 22h ago

It will never be that easy, have some faith.

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u/RiotMedia 20h ago

lmao we had some faith 1.5 years ago. Since then, Americans have only had a walk, on a saturday, 3 times in 18 months. They will absolutely let themselves get trampled.

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u/Shark7996 18h ago

Since then, Americans have only had a walk, on a saturday, 3 times in 18 months.

Get some better sources. There are plenty of Americans working their asses off right now, especially at local and state levels. But I guess that doesn't count because it didn't wind up on your phone screen. Who do you think determines what the news you are reading says?

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u/RiotMedia 18h ago

Either Reddit is very good at hiding mass protests, either you're lying to yourself. If even 1% of the population was concerned, there'd be 3 million people in the streets. Are the protests in the room with us right now?

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u/Shark7996 18h ago

There's no satisfying you, is there? Protests are just a walk, but also the lack of them is proof of nothing being done? What action, exactly, are you looking for, so that we may satisfy your particular tastes, my liege?

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u/Cataphract1014 10h ago

Gunning ice or politicians in the streets is what they want us to do.

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u/RiotMedia 17h ago

Protests usually last more than just an afternoon. I'll be satisfied once the orange rapist stops threatening my country. And I'm not your liege, Trump is.

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u/Dr_Fortnite 18h ago

because 4 years is the blink of an eye for our lives. Most people think if the current president sucks we are only 4 years away from a different hopefully better one so we just try to get by. If trump claims power people wont sit by with the threat that nothing will ever change

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u/GeoisGeo 20h ago

Yes all 300 million people will allow actual tyranny into their homes. At least pretend you have some semblance of understanding of people or reality.

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u/RiotMedia 20h ago

Yes because all 300 million people are enabling their rapist pedo in cheif to actively threaten the sovernty of their neighbours and slap tarifs to countless countries by doing nothing. For every moment you are not actively against the regime, you are acting in their interests. At least pretend to have some semblence of understanding how your countrie's decesions affect the reality of the entire world.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 16h ago

Lol what are you expecting people to do they aren't already doing? Armed insurrection? Since I haven't seen you on the news I'm assuming you haven't done it yourself yet

Right now it's protest but accept someone dangerous got elected. That's just democracy. You don't take out the guns till they take democracy away.

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u/GeoisGeo 19h ago

Im not denying the impact of any of this, im denying your negative ass view of things because you what? Hate Americans? Maybe this conversation wasn't for you then since you have no hope diva.

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u/RiotMedia 19h ago

I have a negative ass view of things because of the negative ass things the USA is doing. If it were France, I'd be pissed at the French. Nothing to do with nationality. I just hope I'm proven wrong in November, but I'm keeping my expectations in check this time.

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u/ktatsanon 18h ago

I know this is hard for Americans to hear, but the poster above is right. Tyranny has been in the White House for a year and a half now and absolutely nothing has been done to stop it. For all the "rah rah freedom, rah rah 2nd amendment to stop a tyrannical government" nonsense that gets spewed everywhere, there is zero action. It's incredibly hypocritical.

Americans are generally apathetic to what's happening because until it directly affects them, then no harm no foul. Even if the midterms are stolen, people will all bitch and moan, but they will go into work the next day, and carry on because that's how the system was set up. People will accept whatever happens because they need their next pay cheque, their next meal, their next tank of gas and rent payment. Their own "rugged individualism" and basic needs will come before the downfall of their country.

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u/GeoisGeo 18h ago

I think, while you speak facts and have some clear opinions I absolutely share, I think you are also pushing another narrative, that is just as prevalent as the rah rah America we were all sold. I am not American, im Canadian and history also says my neighbour's have gotten their shit (relatively, as with everything) together after some hopeless times.

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u/ktatsanon 17h ago

I'm Canadian as well, and maybe I see things in a different light than you do, but I'm not convinced they will get their shit together. This is a different situation than say recovering from a war or a 9/11 type event. The US has always been very divided, but this feels bigger than usual, and there seems to be more hopelessness than ever.

Theis constitution has been trampled on, law enforcement and military has been used against the general population, rampant corruption is blatantly out in the open, people have been disappeared, and zero action taken. When will they "get their shit together"? What will it finally take? What's the tipping point? It didn't happen after the Mueller reports. It didn't happen after January 6th. It didn't happen after the Epstein files. It didn't happen after ICE gunned down unarmed civilians in the streets. Never mind things like Sandy Hook, or Columbine. It will be headline news and public outrage for a week or a month, and then forgotten about and people just accept it and carry on with their lives until the next big event, then rinse and repeat. The danger here is Trump and his goons are threatening the entire world, not just their own country and Americans are the only ones with the power to stop it.

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u/GeoisGeo 17h ago

My point comes from the following perspective. We basically occupy the same culture and reality as the Americans you are talking about, this can't be denied. Do you really believe our own people would behave any differently until things get quite drastic and dangerous. We live in North America in an ever crumbling bubble and I don't know what it would take to shake people, thats actually pretty scary, but my god I live here too and I believe it will be something or else honestly, what are we even doing? We are already fucked right?

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u/ktatsanon 17h ago edited 17h ago

We do live the same reality, but our cultures and values are not the same. As a whole, we value the greater good of society more than the individual, and I think that is something that, to be cliche, the American mind can't comprehend. We are more united as a nation, and I think that gives us a strength that the US doesn't see. I don't know what it would take here to see an uprising, and truly hope we never come to that point, but yes, the situation in the US terrifies me. I have very very little faith in the American populace to rise up against the injustices they're facing, I sure as shit hope they do, I truly hope they prove me wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.

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u/ChocoPablobar 9h ago

Tyranny has been in the White House for a year and a half now and absolutely nothing has been done to stop it. For all the "rah rah freedom, rah rah 2nd amendment to stop a tyrannical government" nonsense that gets spewed everywhere, there is zero action. It's incredibly hypocritical

So you're mad we're not committing acts of violence? Yeah no shit it's hypocritical, the ones saying the 2nd amendment shit are right wingers of course they're hypocrites. The people who oppose trump and the people talking about the 2nd amendment being used to fight tyranny are two entirely separate groups

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u/ktatsanon 39m ago

I'm not calling for violence, but I'm tired of the American arrogance and exceptionalism. I'm tired of hearing how "we're the greatest nation on Earth, the greatest democracy, the greatest this, the greatest that" when your country is both falling apart and taking the rest of the world with it. The whole checks and balances system is proving to be very very flawed.

My point about the 2A is that Americans preach about how free they are, and how their constitution protects those freedoms, but that's very far from the truth. Your rights and freedoms are just words on a piece pf paper, that are meaningless unless people actually follow the rules. The constitution and declaration of independence both state how citizens have a right to take up arms to overthrow a tyrannical government, but the reality is nobody in modern society is either capable or willing to do that.

I'm not advocating people take up arms and storm the White House, because that would be as bad as another January 6th. I wish people would realize that their rights and freedoms only extend as far as the government allows. Your freedoms have been trampled on for the last year and a half, and I truly hope things change in the mid terms, but I have a lot of doubts they will. I'm just not convinced that even if (quite plausibly) the mid terms are stolen, it still won't be a tipping point for any kind of action.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 16h ago

Because he was elected democratically. If they cancel elections that's the time to fight. You don't start a war because you don't like how people voted. You start one when you can't vote anymore

If we had a civil war every time someone we didn't like got elected we would be constantly killing each other. I don't really want to live in that country, would you?

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u/MinimumAutomatic0302 21h ago

That's exactly what it would be, faith in miracles and some divine inevitable justice.

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u/unbuttered_toast3939 20h ago

hopes and prayers.

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u/Key-Demand-2569 17h ago

It won’t be “easy” for that pushback to happen until things are very hard.

Large masses of people don’t revolt until there’s widespread risk of starvation level issues or extreme widespread oppression that most people have personally witnessed.

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u/sayonaradespair 16h ago

Faith took a shit and died

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u/steveaustin1971 14h ago

It's already beyond the point of no return. Even if there is a semi valid election one side won't recognize it and now the GOP has a private army they can send into the streets to quell protest.